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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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post Jul 17 2023, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2023, 02:22 PM)
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Looks to be less severe than first thought, early rumors said an entire span has collapsed into the sea. Also the railway line (where military logistics are transported) seems still intact.

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i agree too, it doesn't look any severe enough to disrupt too much of the traffic. not sure about the pillars as there is no image of them yet.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2023, 02:42 PM)
Looks to be less severe than first thought, early rumors said an entire span has collapsed into the sea. Also the railway line (where military logistics are transported) seems still intact.
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Of course it was there...

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post Jul 17 2023, 02:53 PM

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Reports say multiple USVs are used to attack the Crimea bridge but not all made it to the bridge, at least one USV is reported to have been recovered intact by Russian authorities.

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post Jul 17 2023, 03:04 PM

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Railway traffic has been restored on the Crimea bridge after a pause of 5 hours



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⚡️The 🇺🇦Ukrainian military destroyed two 🇷🇺Russian 2A65 "Msta-B" trailed howitzers with the help of MLRS Himars


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Another very bad day for Russian artillery losses, with 7 tube artillery systems and 4 rocket artillery systems visually confirmed to be destroyed, including a rare Tornado-G MRL.


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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 17 2023, 03:52 PM)
Another very bad day for Russian artillery losses, with 7 tube artillery systems and 4 rocket artillery systems visually confirmed to be destroyed, including a rare Tornado-G MRL.
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Gonna ask the question often directed at me: "what about Ukraine losses?" laugh.gif

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post Jul 17 2023, 04:05 PM

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if you find a listing , feel free to post it too. no one is stopping you 👍🏻
maybe you can get it from russian MOD.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2023, 03:53 PM)
Gonna ask the question often directed at me: "what about Ukraine losses?" laugh.gif
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Relatives of russian convicts serving on the front.

1/ Relatives of convicts serving with a Storm Z penal company of convicts say that their men become 'ghosts' on being recruited and aren't being paid. They don't have proper fire support, uniforms or equipment, don't have medicines and aren't being evacuated when wounded. ⬇️

2/ A group of relatives of men serving with the 488th Motorised Rifle Regiment, 144th Motorised Rifle Division, 20th District Guards Army in Ukraine have recorded an 'appeal to the Tsar' asking for Putin's help with their men's desperate situation.



5/ The Russian military appears to be treating its convict soldiers as brutally as Wagner did, as complaint videos such as the one below indicate. They say their commanders set them impossible tasks, lead them into slaughter and shoot at their feet.

6/ The men in that video are reported to have been removed from a hospital and sent back to the war zone shortly after the video was posted. Their commanders threatened to punish them as '500s' (refuseniks). According to one of the men:

7/ "The whole group of us who were in the video were loaded [into trucks] and are now being taken somewhere. They may declare us 500, like we are refuseniks. But no one refused to fight, we are being treated [wrongly]!"

8/ "We'll be interrogated. We'll tell it like it is. Why? Do they think they'll scare us?"

After sending that message, relatives lost contact with the men. Their present whereabouts are unknown.

9/ Another group of relatives in the video at the top of this thread tell a similar story of mistreatment of their men, convicts from the IK-3 colony in Yelets. They say that their men "officially don't exist anywhere" and have been given empty payroll cards. Many have died.

10/ "At the moment our surviving soldiers have no clear [chain of] command, but there are ruthless commanders who give orders to go forward to the artillery with shovels and automatic rifles, across a whole field of rotting corpses. The bodies are not given to relatives."

11/ There are lots of missing, and the wounded are abandoned on the battlefield, and not evacuated."

The relatives appeal to Putin to provide "fire support, uniformed vehicles, which [the unit] badly needs in order to transport the wounded, as well as medical supplies."

12/ Previous appeals to the military have been fruitless, resulting only in "only empty replies that refer to each other".

The relatives want "official confirmation on all papers that [the men] are people there and not meat, which is thrown there as bait for the enemy".

13/ "Our soldiers do not refuse to serve. They love their country and are ready to fight. They only ask for one thing, that there be clarity ... We hope for your humanity that we will be heard."



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this is a very interesting video.

1. these soldiers are either partisans or SOF behind enemy lines.
2. they look like gear for fast mobile operations.
3. most likely behind enemy lines and deeper in as a russian supply truck moving around.


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Very insightful hmm.gif


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according to the russian mobiks, wagner, and ex russian general...
they don't kinda agree by saying that they lack fire support to little counter battery fire.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2023, 06:01 PM)
Very insightful hmm.gif

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post Jul 17 2023, 07:03 PM

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Clearly they want to see how the attack develops in real-time

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Zelensky now started to send even those boys born in 2006-2005 to their deaths

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post Jul 17 2023, 07:16 PM

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wow i think the grenade that the drone drop went inside and from that height too...


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⚡️🇺🇦Ukrainian military destroyed/damaged 🇷🇺Russian MT-LB and "Bukhanka" with the help of FPV kamikaze drones


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post Jul 17 2023, 07:22 PM

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Apparently the USVs retrieved by the Russian authorities I mentioned earlier were from yesterday's attack on Sevastopol, not from today's attack

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