the Ukrainian government and people still decide to fight on. why want to stop them?

Not foolish, because that's all they can do. With so many mines and artillery, no air cover and limited equipment, how to fight?

It's not like us and Europe donated all their weapons to Ukraine. 30+ leopard 2 tanks only... How to fight?

This post has been edited by bengm2019: Jul 5 2023, 01:14 PM

They still have lots, vast majority of the ones dying in meat grinders are regular folk hurriedly trained and sent off to the frontline ie "storm" units.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/...r-counterattack

Their main fighting force, the reserve brigades have yet to be deployed. They're waiting for any breakdown in Russian defense.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/06/27/u...-reserve-force/

Ut with so little equipment how to fight?? Got.men also useless..

i actually want to see how the german marder perform.
that IFV? is an interesting one.

When Surovikin was in charge, he systematically withdrew his forces from Kherson to preserve combat capabilities and started preparing for defense in depth. The whole point of that was the multiple defensive lines of trenches, dragons teeth and what not to buy time and attrit the offensive opposition. With him no longer in charge, looks like the Russians are playing a different game of whack-a-mole to plug in any potential weakness, trying to keep up the pretense of "Ukrainians haven't even reached the first line" while bringing up reserves to the front, hence large accumulations near places like Bakhmut and desperate fights along the Zaporizhzhia front.
The real wildcard right now is the ZNPP and what the Russians have planned for it.

the russians might still be possible to stop the counter offensive with the lines of trenches and mines. i wouldn't be so quick to brush off those many kilometers of defensive lines.

but yeah, with surovikin missing or not seen, it might hurt that strategy.

That sounds so sad for the sacrificers which consist of normal citizens.

This post has been edited by Etude8891: Jul 5 2023, 01:44 PM

Mines are a threat, but trenches mean nothing if they aren't manned. Hence the Ukrainian strategy to go wide and shallow to probe for weakness. Russians don't have enough trained men to man all those trenches. It's not rocket science, but the same general thing that Wagner used in besieging Bakhmut, but at a larger scale.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia...ion-2023-07-04/

"Under cover of darkness overnight on 5th July, the Ukrainian military will try to attack the Zaporizhzhia station using long-range precision equipment and kamikaze attack drones," Russian news agencies quoted Karchaa as telling Russian television. He offered no evidence in support of his allegation.

Zelenskiy tweeted that he had told Macron in a telephone conversation that "the occupation troops are preparing dangerous provocations at the Zaporizhzhia (nuclear plant)."


The future's in the air
I can feel it everywhere
Blowing with the wind of change

RU suicide drone attacks UA speedboat @ Antonovsky Bridge, Kherson




Elimination of UA DRGs with FAB-500 guided bombs @ Antonovsky Bridge, Kherson



This post has been edited by countingcrows: Jul 5 2023, 02:57 PM

some nice night time fireworks display.

Not realtime geh?? Recorded from where wor???

the attack happen around yesterday night i think.
i am more impress that Ukrainian manage to get a drone in there to record the footage. there is a lot of ammunition cook off definitely.

huh still store ammu into buildings?

Dunno which is worse:

Ukraine still probing for weaknesses and still not finding any

or

They have actually found a weakness but still can't break it

they just say the tik tok soldiers reveal their positions to be bombarded... lol

the facial lineage looks interesting, two on left looks like near middle eastern? the one on right looks almost near mongolian side. i could be wrong.

Trench warfare

Personally I put no stock in POW statements, we don't know what is happening behind the camera. That's why I never post them.

After more than a year on the front line, soldiers from Ukraine’s 35th Marine Brigade pay little attention to the shells raining down around them.

These artillerymen have been deployed on the axis of advance towards the Azov Sea and the city of Mariupol, but a lack of firepower is hampering their advance.

They are operating a 122mm gun dating from Soviet times – and ammunition stocks are limited.

“Everything depends on deliveries from our foreign partners,” says Stvol, the platoon commander. “The truth is that for the active phases we really need more, a lot more.”

Aiming for Mariupol is a further motivation for Vitaly, who is from the port city that was captured – and largely destroyed – by Russian forces last year.

“I really hope to go back, no matter what state the town is in,” he says. “I pray that the [Russians] will withdraw without a fight, because if there is a second battle it will be like Bakhmut.”
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You yourself not enough ammunition some more want to try an attrition battle with Russia?