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 Intern. Should they be paid or not?

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cursetheroad01
post Jun 1 2023, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 08:15 PM)
Not really la, you can check with most HR people. In most cases, they get more resumes than they can deal with.

As I mentioned before, these interns are only there for a few months, not really reliable in most cases. For most cases, it is easier and safer to assign jobs to the normal staff.

Not sure about contacting job hunter companies, I know it is common to look for graduate trainees, but interns not really lah. If they want they can come, if not we won't miss them.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-sa...nterns-get-paid

edit: I am not trying to lowball these interns. I am already retired. Just hoping that these youths don't get an overinflated sense of importance.
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These youngsters think too highly of themselves.
I know! Let's Rob then off their rightful pay.

Dah tua pun bodoh
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post Jun 1 2023, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 08:34 PM)
Just saying, if they can get a good salary go ahead. Just don't complain about difficulty finding places to do their internships later on.

I would rather hire 2 banglas than an intern at 7k lol.
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Malaysian employers cheap skate deserved to get monkeys while other countries lure all our best talents and keep them with care until retirement.
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post Jun 1 2023, 08:39 PM

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My opis intern 1K being paid. Good value. Belajar dapat duit dapat. Win liao lor.
loserguy
post Jun 1 2023, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 1 2023, 08:34 PM)
These youngsters think too highly of themselves.
I know! Let's Rob then off their rightful pay.

Dah tua pun bodoh
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Nope. A youngster being hired as part of the staff is different. An intern is only there for a few months.

You don't really have to be someone doing the hiring to understand that.
cursetheroad01
post Jun 1 2023, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 08:41 PM)
Nope. A youngster being hired as part of the staff is different. An intern is only there for a few months.

You don't really have to be someone doing the hiring to understand that.
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Part timer dont get paid too huh
loserguy
post Jun 1 2023, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Jun 1 2023, 08:25 PM)
MNC: CSR
SME: Cheap kuli
Cinapek: What pay? Intern pay to come here!
Kekwa
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More like:

unpaid/pay as you like: suka hati u la, u nak datang, datang la. tak nak pun tak apa.
minimum pay: hmm, ok let us get back to you on that. <thinking baik hire full time staff. gila ke mamat ni. lol.>
ZforZebra
post Jun 1 2023, 08:47 PM

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some poeple. intern are just free labor
loserguy
post Jun 1 2023, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 1 2023, 08:44 PM)
Part timer dont get paid too huh
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Well, let's just say I am not a fan of the gig economy. It is very disadvantageous to the worker in the long run.
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post Jun 1 2023, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jun 1 2023, 08:13 AM)
I once pernah jumpa a boss of an intern asking the intern why should the intern get paid because, as long as the intern works under him, the intern get knowledge which is more valuable than money. The boss said lah.
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so the boss agree that the intern is working la, not learn under him.. whistling.gif
haroldz123
post Jun 1 2023, 11:00 PM

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Bayar lumpsum cheaper
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post Jun 1 2023, 11:02 PM

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topkekw , even u are big 4 or big mnc , these company at least pay money, intern should be pay 1000 max, but i know IT field is 2k at least
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post Jun 1 2023, 11:31 PM

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It is more toward Corporate & Social Respinsibity (CSR) as stated. Those companies who takes the interns want the undergraduates to complete their industrial training & to let them have the exposure of the working enviroment.

To pay or not pay ? I say pay for them to cover the meals & transportation. At the same time train them / let them face the real working pressure within the training period.

If you want our nation to progress, the whole industrial landscape need to be transformed. There are need to be have more collaborations between universities & industries, so that the tertiary education are producing the work force that our industries needed without having to retrain them.
Thebestscammer
post Jun 1 2023, 11:37 PM

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if im the intern - yes
if im the boss - no

SotongBiru
post Jun 1 2023, 11:42 PM

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Interns do for the experience and it cost the company money. Hence, it does not make sense for interns to get paid.

Companies do it as a social responsibility and lately for assessment for future hiring. There are however, part time jobs that can be used as internship and in those cases, it makes sense to provide a reasonable pay.
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post Jun 1 2023, 11:44 PM

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interns in taiwan get paid more than 3k
SotongBiru
post Jun 1 2023, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Jun 1 2023, 11:31 PM)
It is more toward Corporate & Social Respinsibity (CSR) as stated. Those companies who takes the interns want the undergraduates to complete their industrial training & to let them have the exposure of the working enviroment.

To pay or not pay ? I say pay for them to cover the meals & transportation. At the same time train them / let them face the real working pressure within the training period.

If you want our nation to progress, the whole industrial landscape need to be transformed. There are need to be have more collaborations between universities & industries, so that the tertiary education are producing the work force that our industries needed without having to retrain them.
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Would like to say that there are different tertiary education. To be immediately productive, that would be skills based training whereas to be able to adapt and learn on their own, foundational knowledge should be the focus. Because we focus too much on "industry ready", the nation actually won't progress. No innovators.

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post Jun 1 2023, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(SotongBiru @ Jun 1 2023, 11:46 PM)
Would like to say that there are different tertiary education. To be immediately productive, that would be skills based training whereas to be able to adapt and learn on their own, foundational knowledge should be the focus.  Because we focus too much on "industry ready", the nation actually won't progress.  No innovators.
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And how many actual innovators are there. Sorry most ppl are just cogs in the machine.
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post Jun 2 2023, 12:04 AM

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bodo ka?
you gib work, pay lah
kedekut mampoi
open company kenot/donwan pay for pipu work, work by yourself la
knumskul
post Jun 2 2023, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 10:09 AM)
No.

These interns are there to learn something.

They pay money to the universities. They pay nothing to these companies.

Some allowance for daily expenses, maybe. But it should not be mandatory.
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Any many companies don't assign them meaningful work because

QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 08:15 PM)
these interns are only there for a few months, not really reliable in most cases. For most cases, it is easier and safer to assign jobs to the normal staff.
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I have seen many who think like you. How are they supposed to learn if nothing meaningful is assigned to them because "they are temporary and not reliable"? Isn't that rather contradictory?

Even more so for those bosses who assume all interns aren't reliable before even testing them by assigning simple tasks.
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post Jun 2 2023, 01:31 AM

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haha....my neighbour daughter complain her company treated her like slave

make coffee, buy food, send agrement document to client...etc without reimburse her anything

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