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 Intern. Should they be paid or not?

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mowlous
post Jun 1 2023, 10:18 AM

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Boss that don't pay intern or pay below minimum wage are active slave masters. Back in the day big strong slave rear naked choke them to death after they where free.
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:18 AM

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intern no need to eat? no need transport to go to the office?
work not done by them?
really cheapskate want to take advantage of others
hello. you will also have children in the future, karma will bite back.
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 10:09 AM)
No.

These interns are there to learn something.

They pay money to the universities. They pay nothing to these companies.

Some allowance for daily expenses, maybe. But it should not be mandatory.
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Stupid take.

They are interns, not students at your company. By definition, they are trainee at your workplace. Even a job as petty as bancuh kopi is still a job.

They learn to work. I help you - there’s the word “Work” in there.


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post Jun 1 2023, 10:20 AM

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post Jun 1 2023, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jun 1 2023, 08:13 AM)


I once pernah jumpa a boss of an intern asking the intern why should the intern get paid because, as long as the intern works under him, the intern get knowledge which is more valuable than money. The boss said lah.
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u can teach me.
i can learn.

if u dont pay
i just sit down learn like a student
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No poll?
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jun 1 2023, 08:13 AM)


I once pernah jumpa a boss of an intern asking the intern why should the intern get paid because, as long as the intern works under him, the intern get knowledge which is more valuable than money. The boss said lah.
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this kind of boss quality......shame on him

at least must pay to cover the Transport + Meal.
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jun 1 2023, 09:15 AM)
Depends. Sometime i get intern that has no capacity to learn n perform jobs, too many mistakes, makes ppl more jobs to supervise n crosscheck their works. Worst is intern with mentality to pass the time due to course requirement. So the attitude is very bad, no heart to do work.

Should they get paid?
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either you lazy or bad in supervision skill. Everything just dump to intern and expect them deliver it by hook or crook.

btw.....karma is bitch
you maybe sceptical
for my case, I make my ex-internship company went bankrupt
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loserguy
post Jun 1 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Zaazuu @ Jun 1 2023, 10:20 AM)
Stupid take.

They are interns, not students at your company. By definition, they are trainee at your workplace. Even a job as petty as bancuh kopi is still a job.

They learn to work. I help you - there’s the word “Work” in there.
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Let me put it this way. The companies do not NEED these interns.

It is more a CSR thing. If you were to add in minimum wage requirements, what do you think will happen? Instead of taking 2 interns, maybe they will take 1, or maybe just go without.

There was a tered recently where someone complained about charities asking for a minimum amount for donation.

Same thing here. Beggars should not be choosers.

edt: see post above mine for a good reason. these interns are not long term employees looking to grow together with the company, they can fark up the company just for the lulz.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 1 2023, 10:27 AM
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:26 AM

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last time i not paid.
i request the evaluation form done and evaluated by myself.
i worked on my own thing only.

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Zaazuu
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 1 2023, 10:25 AM)
Let me put it this way. The companies do not NEED these interns.

It is more a CSR thing. If you were to add in minimum wage requirements, what do you think will happen? Instead of taking 2 interns, maybe they will take 1, or maybe just go without.

There was a tered recently where someone complained about charities asking for a minimum amount for donation.

Same thing here. Beggars should not be choosers.
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Easy.

Don’t take interns if you can’t afford/unable to teach/mentor, unless if there’s a certain regulations or laws that require companies to take interns?

Or probably because to exploit and cheap labour.
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:28 AM

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The interns NEED the company to learn, to get a degree.
The company DOES NOT NEED the intern AT ALL.

The intern SHOULD PAY THE COMPANY.

:-)
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jun 1 2023, 08:13 AM)


I once pernah jumpa a boss of an intern asking the intern why should the intern get paid because, as long as the intern works under him, the intern get knowledge which is more valuable than money. The boss said lah.
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Easy "Yes".
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:33 AM

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Last time being an intern 11 yrs ago, I did an engineer job, doing programming, product testing, prepare documentation, the part I didn't do was dealing with clients, gm, and shareholders. So yeah they should be paid as a staff should be paid OR paid partially, plus the company provide the accommodation, transport, meals. UNLESS you assign them as coffee boy, photocopy machine attendees
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QUOTE(Zaazuu @ Jun 1 2023, 10:28 AM)
Easy.

Don’t take interns if you can’t afford/unable to teach/mentor, unless if there’s a certain regulations or laws that require companies to take interns?

Or probably because to exploit and cheap labour.
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Actually it is more a CSR thing. Our employees will just include this in their monthly reports as a CSR contribution. Or for low priority projects. Nothing much. We used to pay the interns as well, but I can see where a minimum number will be off putting to most employers. There is really nothing much that companies get from these interns.

Put a minimum number on it, and I can almost guarantee it will backfire. Expect undergraduates complaining about lack of places to do their internships.

edit: exception for ipohmali lulz

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post Jun 1 2023, 10:37 AM

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most kecam or complaints really cant see the bigger picture eh

again its based on budi bicara or what kind of work
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jun 1 2023, 08:13 AM)
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I once pernah jumpa a boss of an intern asking the intern why should the intern get paid because, as long as the intern works under him, the intern get knowledge which is more valuable than money. The boss said lah.
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there are two types of interns

1) observing only - some companies do not want to disrupt their flow to cater for interns but HR have facilities like internal learning rooms, thus HR will bring the intern around to observe only the department their studies are related to then setup a short workshop session with the department head. the intern does nothing but observe and learn, doesn't get paid, it is usually just a 1-2 day thing. consider it as a seminar/training workshop but free. that company considers it part of their CSA.

2) free labour - most companies will fall into this category. they think of uni/college as an unlimited supply of fresh meat for the grinder, they filter out the weak and only offer jobs to those they want. many pay these interns pittance, not enough to even cover their daily food and transport. is no specific law mandating payment for interns so some HR trying to act smart will always give wrong advise to bosses. for me i just offer a daily wage to them, just like any other part-time worker.
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:44 AM

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recently more and more companies only wanna take interns. no opening for entry level job. cilakak more companies follow ipohmali.
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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Jun 1 2023, 08:17 AM)
but the massat lady get my mani which is more valuable than money
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U can always tapao back, since she just throw your valueble mani into dustbin anyway
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:50 AM

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I ok intern getting paid. What I am not okay company accepting intern in a dept where they cant do shit. In my dept they need special access privilege and special id which they never grant to interns tapi insist us to keep intern in dept. In the end intern just duduk lepak minum kopi all day long, jadi glorified coffee fetcher and tukar photostat.

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