Agree. Couldn't agree to it more.

Imagine if you instead of one das, you pancut few das for here. Maybe overpaid lol!

so if you get prostitute, you should get paid cause she enjoy more ?

If don't want to pay intern please don't hire intern then

The same folks who say intern should not be paid, will probably complain their own salary not good enough too coz boss cheapskate

10 years ago i got rm40/day

after food x3 and transport still got balance

now inflation harga naik but intern pay no naik, pity ...

Last time i intern at gov.. didnt get pay.. feel kinda rugi lol

Interns should get paid something to offset transport cost, time , and food

I’ve seen some company pay intern 500 bucks which to me sounds okay

mesti lah bayar....

Wait till u see jobs that are not covered by labor laws. Gomen basically allows slavery.

In my workplace, boss considers intern as workforce. If intern on leave, company in emergency state. Topkek HR planning.

The problem is accountability. Who do you get back to with any questions or follow ups?

It is not a matter of ability. We will also slowly transition projects or jobs off anyone who is leaving the company. Think of the intern as someone who has already tendered his resignation and is just serving out the notice period.

topkek, this one is exploitation liao. but your boss also bodo one, penny wise pound foolish.

If you're assigning task with high degree of accountability to interns without oversight, management style is already questionable.

Pretty sure there are many simple but not menial tasks interns can do. You say its not ability, yet mention reliability.

If you're thinking of intern as outgoing staff, not much point to hire them in that case. That's like saying no point to eat since gonna be ejected out of body in a couple of hours.

entry-level also learning so no need pay also? Wtf logic

Yes. They are mostly there as a sort of social initiative. They tag along with our permanent staff, but we rarely give them access to sensitive info.

There are companies who do exploit these interns, but the companies I have been with so far have not. It is just not worth it.

Also, the word I used was accountability, I believe. Sorry if I mistyped in an earlier post, but that is what I mean.

edit: also, if simple tasks we just push to our regular staff la, why bother with interns lol

This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 2 2023, 04:42 PM

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Can offload some workload. My previous company tried to get interns in during high workload 'season'. Smart way to manage workload imo, but half the teams had the "they are interns, don't give them stuff to do".

There are many tasks that don't require access to sensitive info or high/long term accountability. Depends on department also I suppose.
Also the oversight I mention would have to borderline be micro managing.

Eg. Ask intern to prepare purchase order or quotation. Either superior sends it themselves, or checks & approves it and allows intern to send it. If done through email, cc other staff in for future accountability.
If seen this happen in sales, procurement and IT depts. Meaningful yet simple tasks, and they learn the flow of tasks instead of fetching coffee and operating photocopy machine for 3 months.

I think that was a department level decision. Normally we will want somebody to be accountable e.g. if there are any questions about your purchase order or technical queries, we want the guy who signed off to answer. Checking over the intern's work for this? Might as well do it himself. He can hand it over to the intern, but if there are any issues, the questions will be coming back to him because the intern will not be around in a few months time.

Normally we get our interns to tag along with our more experienced guys. Less complaints from the intern and other staff as well.

Some mnc give 2k for interns

Checking over is still way less work then doing it himself. Highly depends on the product as well. For very technical products, agreed on the enquiries down the road.
But for simple items, being in the loop is required for follow ups down the road.

It wasn't department level but across the entire company. I didn't manage to find out what engineering/finance side assign to their interns. Logistics they got interns to handle some simple operational tasks.
All got tagged along to senior exec level as a minimum, except for high turnover teams.

Well different company/people, different styles. Just sharing that I've seen it done and many interns did learn stuff during their stint. Accountability is covered by not giving interns full autonomy like regular staff. Their tasks were taken from the seniors, who were accountable for it prior to interns' hire.

So it comes back to the question, will your company hurt if there are no interns? And does it justify a minimum allowance?

From my personal experience, it doesn't hurt to have them there, but we won't exactly go out of our way to hire interns.