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Intern. Should they be paid or not?
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Donchay
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Jun 2 2023, 05:43 PM
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Kampeni want to fullfill CSR , yet dont want to pay.
Pay them allowance , not salary + epf.
Patutlah msia so full of SME cause all of their margins is the results of squeezing employees , not actual productivity kek.
Intern is human being, kampeni xde common sense gi mampos jela
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knumskul
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Jun 2 2023, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 2 2023, 05:38 PM) So it comes back to the question, will your company hurt if there are no interns? And does it justify a minimum allowance? From my personal experience, it doesn't hurt to have them there, but we won't exactly go out of our way to hire interns. Not about hurt or headcount requirement. Doing their part for CSR, while also giving the interns actual work. This way there won't be debate about paying them or not since having meaningful work meets the purpose of the placement. Intro to working world 101, in a way. Also if they like the interns, can offer them a position as you have worked with them for several months for cheaper. Can stretch the trial period Intern - 3 months Probation - 3 months
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SUSBlackscreamerz
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Jun 2 2023, 06:00 PM
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The problem with internship in Malaysia is, most of the time it is not used to form talent pool. This is very similar to how most of employers are basically not sustainable, waiting to get outdated by the world.
Example, if an industry keep shouting not enough talents, but they themselves didnt offer paid internship program, who will go to the sector wor.
Since internship is not used as a talent pool, there is no incentive to pay them anyway. Afterall, it is fire-and-forget mode.
Beggar doesnt get to choose. If you need an intern position urgently, then you need to pick 1 even if they dont offer any allowance. But same thing, fire-and-forget about the company later. Most of the time, you need to pay for your expense, be it during study week or internship semester. So, generally it doesnt differ too much.
PS: My company offers 1k for intern. We appreciate talent.
This post has been edited by Blackscreamerz: Jun 2 2023, 06:03 PM
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loserguy
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Jun 2 2023, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Jun 2 2023, 05:53 PM) Not about hurt or headcount requirement. Doing their part for CSR, while also giving the interns actual work. This way there won't be debate about paying them or not since having meaningful work meets the purpose of the placement. Intro to working world 101, in a way. Also if they like the interns, can offer them a position as you have worked with them for several months for cheaper. Can stretch the trial period Intern - 3 months Probation - 3 months It is usually ok for big companies. For small companies  Wonder if these guys will be so happy once they figure out that internship allowances are actually coming from their year end bonus pool  Employment offers work if they are available directly after the internship period. Most cases they need to go back to the universities for a year after that. So ... Before I retired, they had graduate trainees for this purpose. The main benefit is they are available immediately.
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