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 [UPDATE]Opportunity to work in UK, I got the job! but disappointing offer.

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MrBaba
post May 27 2023, 04:20 PM

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Why limit yr self to UK only leh ?
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post May 27 2023, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(miuk @ May 27 2023, 04:18 PM)
Dude this kind of simulation ANSYS/SOLIDWORKS/CAD type work just try to come back to US to work if youre looking for money.
These days the $130K you quoted previously is like entry level pay in the tech industry.
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depending on the location really. 130k in CA and 130k in MI is huge difference. I was working in a small town sub urb Detroit Michigan for 140k annual. You need to earn >200k to have the same lifestyle in silicon valley.

haha, and I don't deal with the tools you mentioned, those are for kids.
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post May 27 2023, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(miuk @ May 27 2023, 04:18 PM)
Dude this kind of simulation ANSYS/SOLIDWORKS/CAD type work just try to come back to US to work if youre looking for money.
These days the $130K you quoted previously is like entry level pay in the tech industry.
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Half goes to taxes, a quarter goes to living (rent/food/etc etc) esp the Bay Area
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post May 27 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ May 27 2023, 04:20 PM)
Why limit yr self to UK only leh ?
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not limiting myself to anything. I wasn't even looking to be honest. just an opportunity came my way.

it's like you play love playing football and Manchester United/Liverpool or other big EPL club offered you to join them.
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post May 27 2023, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kakistok @ May 27 2023, 04:26 PM)
depending on the location really. 130k in CA and 130k in MI is huge difference. I was working in a small town sub urb Detroit Michigan for 140k annual. You need to earn >200k to have the same lifestyle in silicon valley.

haha, and I don't deal with the tools you mentioned, those are for kids.
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Got it, automotive sector.
Well its all about perspective and timing, if you got in at the right time, you would have made money. I had a lot of co-workers that went over to Rivian when the opened up in town, post IPO they left before the current crash.
Now that said, comparing 70K GBP vs 200K USD after taxes, it would still be the US job.
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post May 27 2023, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 27 2023, 04:30 PM)
Half goes to taxes, a quarter goes to living (rent/food/etc etc) esp the Bay Area
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yeap, I was once offered to work in San Jose,CA for a startup company, I was doing consulting work for them. I said no. High Pay but high living expenses, tax tax tax, no work life balance (12 hours work culture)

I was enjoying my lake life in Michigan.
10 mins walk from my US home
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post May 27 2023, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(miuk @ May 27 2023, 04:37 PM)
Got it, automotive sector.
Well its all about perspective and timing, if you got in at the right time, you would have made money. I had a lot of co-workers that went over to Rivian when the opened up in town, post IPO they left before the current crash.
Now that said, comparing 70K GBP vs 200K USD after taxes, it would still be the US job.
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US has always paid more than UK/EU. My connections in Europe always ask if there is any opportunity to work in the US.

I've done some consulting work for Rivian too, even some of my colleagues moved to Rivian. Startup EVs are like scams man, Founders get together find investors, they get their paycheck. If things didn't work out, leave the company and open another startup, cycle repeats again
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 27 2023, 04:30 PM)
Half goes to taxes, a quarter goes to living (rent/food/etc etc) esp the Bay Area
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More like a third to taxes and 50% to living expenses tongue.gif
i think San Jose now is like $4k a month for a 2 bedroom condo.
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QUOTE(Kakistok @ May 27 2023, 04:45 PM)
US has always paid more than UK/EU. My connections in Europe always ask if there is any opportunity to work in the US.

I've done some consulting work for Rivian too, even some of my colleagues moved to Rivian. Startup EVs are like scams man, Founders get together find investors, they get their paycheck. If things didn't work out, leave the company and open another startup, cycle repeats again
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QUOTE(miuk @ May 27 2023, 04:45 PM)
More like a third to taxes and 50% to living expenses  tongue.gif
i think San Jose now is like $4k a month for a 2 bedroom condo.
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close enough, kek
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post May 27 2023, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 27 2023, 04:30 PM)
Half goes to taxes, a quarter goes to living (rent/food/etc etc) esp the Bay Area
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QUOTE(Kakistok @ May 27 2023, 04:38 PM)
yeap, I was once offered to work in San Jose,CA for a startup company, I was doing consulting work for them. I said no. High Pay but high living expenses, tax tax tax, no work life balance (12 hours work culture)

I was enjoying my lake life in Michigan.
10 mins walk from my US home
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UK tax rates are worse than US, it's average pay is much lower too.

In general, most of Europe pay sucks anyway (with handful of exception like Switzerland)
even Germany and France low af
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post May 27 2023, 07:18 PM

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post May 27 2023, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 27 2023, 08:11 AM)
call me crazy or anything, but I would like to live like this one fine day. away from civilization

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Bruh, go China Mt Emei and give it a week there. Climb the mountain daily at specific hour and hope that you'll see the Buddha's light.

Trust me, even you're not a buddhist or whatever, when you see that light, you'll instantly enlighted and understand what means by you mati, just go mati, I am eternal, I am lasting, I am alive.

Human is just small, miniscule creature in this universe. Money fame or piap, got is good, more is better, but dying for that is wrong totally.
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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 27 2023, 11:18 AM)
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Wow. This is humgarchan shocking. No wonder all my friends say dun go America if you will end up sick and die. You won't have medical stuff to fuck with.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ May 27 2023, 07:52 PM)
Wow. This is humgarchan shocking. No wonder all my friends say dun go America if you will end up sick and die. You won't have medical stuff to fuck with.
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US get higher pay than Europe but less social security and benefits. So need to budget for good medical insurance. No NHS in US.

Also in US can get retrenched without any mandatory compensation at any time. So got pros and cons
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post May 27 2023, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ May 27 2023, 07:50 PM)
Bruh, go China Mt Emei and give it a week there. Climb the mountain daily at specific hour and hope that you'll see the Buddha's light.

Trust me, even you're not a buddhist or whatever, when you see that light, you'll instantly enlighted and understand what means by you mati, just go mati, I am eternal, I am lasting, I am alive.

Human is just small, miniscule creature in this universe. Money fame or piap, got is good, more is better, but dying for that is wrong totally.
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sometimes I feel I just need to find some peace within myself.

need to stay away from civilization for a while


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post May 27 2023, 08:51 PM

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Are you sure your salary is not GBP 4,500 per week?
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post May 27 2023, 09:00 PM

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Hey TS I don't have the answer to your question, but just wanted to add - consider the potential benefit (non-tangible) of:

1.Additional international working experience
2.Potential to come back to Malaysia after about 5 years under the returning expert program (no income tax for 5 years etc.)

All the best and do share your final decision !
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post May 27 2023, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ May 27 2023, 09:00 PM)
Hey TS I don't have the answer to your question, but just wanted to add - consider the potential benefit (non-tangible) of:

1.Additional international working experience
2.Potential to come back to Malaysia after about 5 years under the returning expert program (no income tax for 5 years etc.)

All the best and do share your final decision !
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How to apply no. 2?
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post May 27 2023, 09:11 PM

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Ask them to double the offer…doesn’t make sense to get almost the same amount as an offer that you could get in KL.

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post May 27 2023, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 27 2023, 12:16 PM)
US get higher pay than Europe but less social security and benefits. So need to budget for good medical insurance. No NHS in US.

Also in US can get retrenched without any mandatory compensation at any time. So got pros and cons
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Yeah. Only pros for someone like me is over there is about the same as UK here, food stuff, if you do well, the money come in like gold flowing into your pocket by hundred grams. But if you got hated, get ready to lose everything. Luckily, UK here is not as crazy over there.

I was told by several friends that went there (boston) to do business, you can literally open a business, chop those mofo idiots like they're fish on chopping board until you business game over. But don't worry, that's not end of world. Just rent another shop beside, replace all the deco to the new one, change some spelling, and voila, the same people will come to let you chop them like fish steaks on chopping block again. Milk these stupid's money.

They got no brain. You tell them you might look,speak, behave, called the same as the previous scammer, but you're not, and they'll trust you and give you all their money. If I no scam them, I scam who?

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 27 2023, 12:26 PM)
sometimes I feel I just need to find some peace within myself.
need to stay away from civilization for a while
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Do it.

Zhangjiajie's cable car , Jiuzhaigou's forget what liao, left office no stuff check. Emei Mountain's Buddha Light, Xi'an's food haven. Hantam Chongqing not for their malahotpot but to watch how you're at open square, but walk to the side, cilaka babi its 20+ floors above ground, sked the balls of you. If sukak ulat biawak cicak etc, hantam yunnan for their demonic cuisine, sure Qi Deviation kasi lu. Else, hantam Sanya become degenerate, ogle amoi there. YOLO smart, not YOLO like a sohai, that's what matters.

Edit: Sorry TS, to enjoice replying forget its Serious K

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