Radio kereta pun saya tak guna. Ni apa ni touch touch screen? What is all this about? My car masih butang analog.
Drivers prefer buttons and knobs to touchscreens
Drivers prefer buttons and knobs to touchscreens
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Apr 28 2023, 10:27 AM
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Radio kereta pun saya tak guna. Ni apa ni touch touch screen? What is all this about? My car masih butang analog.
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Apr 28 2023, 10:27 AM
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Cukur my new mazda still got a lot of knobs..
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Apr 28 2023, 10:27 AM
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Self driving cars.
People are happy to have a computer take control of driving the car, why not let the computer automatically adjust volumes, air conditioning levels, window tint levels etc. The only user interaction required should be entering the destination on the ......... touchscreen. LOL |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:28 AM
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Ahh i wouldnt worry about it.
See what happen to latest volks golf? Due to this many people dont buy. So the trend will die off on its own. It is already proven that if u dun drive a tesla, no point getting into the smart touch screen on the dash or steering wherever. Proof that not everything can be useful. But i do know somebody mentioned last time the real purpose is so that people concentrate on driving. I mean thats stupid isnt it? How is controlling an a/c level distract someone from their driving focus? U mean we all need to preset it before travel/drive? What an ass market |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:29 AM
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mildly shock. LOL
for HU, im happy with bluetooth and decent audio system. touchscreen don't belong in the dashboard. |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:31 AM
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Physical button = u touch u feel u know it’s receive your input.
Touchscreen = u touch then u need to look at it to make sure u touch the right location. And those car which put all the functions into 1 screen, u need to navigate to that screen only u can make selection. Some functions still best to remain with physical button. Special mention new Honda knobs to adjust aircon, That mechanic sound, hnnnggggg This post has been edited by mick84: Apr 28 2023, 10:35 AM |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:41 AM
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touch screen are good for entertainment and non essential control only
The rest please goes back original with button and knot setup |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Apr 28 2023, 09:40 AM) im 37 years old and i prefer my car not really fully electronic. Nowadays cars actually came with HUD already.i dont prefer touch screen too. for me it is too distracting. I dont like big screen on my dashboard too. but im a poorfag so i dont have all this problem as my car is 10 years old liao. |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(HikayatSalju @ Apr 28 2023, 09:31 AM) You don’t see a lot of good news about road safety in the United States. Unlike in most peer countries, American roadway deaths surged during the pandemic and have barely receded since. Pedestrian and cyclist fatalities recently hit their highest levels in 40 years, but U.S. transportation officials continue to ignore key contributing factors. In a February interview with Fast Company, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg said that “further research” is needed before addressing the obvious risks that oversized SUVs and trucks pose to those not inside of them. Human-centric interface design is something industrial design engineers have to keep relearning. This isn't a new problem in that sense. Happily, there is one area where we are making at least marginal progress: A growing number of automakers are backpedaling away from the huge, complex touchscreens that have infested dashboard design over the past 15 years. Buttons and knobs are coming back. The touchscreen pullback is the result of consumer backlash, not the enactment of overdue regulations or an awakening of corporate responsibility. Many drivers want buttons, not screens, and they’ve given carmakers an earful about it. Auto executives have long brushed aside safety concerns about their complex displays—and all signs suggest they would have happily kept doing so. But their customers are revolting, which has forced them to pay attention. For well over a decade, touchscreens have spread like a rash across dashboards. As with other dangerous trends in car design (see the steering yoke), this one can be traced back to Tesla, which has for years positioned its vehicles as “tablets on wheels.” As a result, touchscreens were seen as representing tech-infused modernity. But cost has been a factor, too. “These screens are presented as this avant garde, minimalist design,” said Matt Farah, a car reviewer and host of The Smoking Tire, an auto-focused YouTube channel and podcast. “But really, it’s the cheapest way possible of building an interior.” Although they look fancy, Farah said that carmakers can purchase screens for less than $50, making them significantly less expensive than tactile controls. As I explained in a 2021 Slate article, the trend toward car touchscreens has been a dangerous one for road safety. Those who drove in the 1990s will remember using buttons and knobs to change the radio or adjust the air conditioning without looking down from the steering wheel. Despite their name, touchscreens rely on a driver’s eyes as much as her fingers to navigate—and every second that she is looking at a screen is a second that she isn’t looking at the road ahead. Navigating through various levels of menus to reach a desired control can be particularly dangerous; one study by the AAA Foundation concluded that infotainment touchscreens can distract a driver for up to 40 seconds, long enough to cover half a mile at 50 mph. “The irony is that everyone basically accepts that it’s dangerous to use your phone while driving,” said Farah. “Yet no one complains about what we’re doing instead, which is fundamentally using an iPad while driving. If you’re paying between $40,000 and $300,000 for a car, you’re getting an iPad built onto the dashboard.” Seeking to address these risks, NHTSA published voluntary guidance in 2013 recommending that a driver be able to complete any infotainment task with glances of under two seconds, totaling a maximum of 12 seconds. But NHTSA’s guidance had no enforcement mechanism, and carmakers have violated it with impunity. In the last two years further evidence has suggested that touchscreens represent a step backward for auto design. Drexel researchers found that infotainment systems posed a statistically significant crash risk even in the early 2010s, before carmakers added many of today’s bells and whistles. A widely publicized Swedish study found that completing tasks with screens takes longer than with physical buttons. Meanwhile, a revolt has been brewing. A recent J.D. Power consumer survey on vehicle dependability concluded that “infotainment remains a significant issue for new vehicles.” It wasn’t hard to understand why. In a 2022 New York Times opinion piece titled “Touch Screens in Cars Solve a Problem We Didn’t Have,” Jay Caspian Kang wrote, “I can think of no better way of describing the frustration of the modern consumer than buying a car with a feature that makes you less safe, doesn’t improve your driving experience in any meaningful way, saves the manufacturer money and gets sold to you as some necessary advance in connectivity.” Other stories railing against car touchscreens ran in newspapers like the Los Angeles Times and tech sites like Tom’s Guide, which declared, “I’m sorry, but touchscreens in cars are stupid.” Carmakers have noticed—and they’ve begun to change their tune. Given the higher costs of using physical controls, it’s unsurprising that Porsche has been at the vanguard, returning buttons to the interior of the 2024 Cayenne. (Bugatti, meanwhile, never adopted touchscreens in the first place.) “One would hope that luxury trickles down,” said Farah. “As they reject the screens, it could over time be seen as luxurious to have buttons instead.” Volkswagen, which owns Porsche, has acknowledged that customer feedback led it to drop its much-loathed steering wheel touch controls that were nearly impossible to use without looking down from the windshield, and executives have suggested adding more buttons to its future EVs. Meanwhile, the few big automakers that skipped the touchscreen craze have not been shy about letting the world know—while offering a few digs at their competitors. “I think people are going to get tired of these big black screens,” Alfonso Albaisa, Nissan’s senior VP for global design, told Green Car Reports. Hyundai, too, has voiced its commitment to buttons and dials. https://slate.com/business/2023/04/cars-but...an-hyundai.html |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:50 AM
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knob better we can turn n drive, we can pickup phone n drive..
with touch scren, often see car swerve direction...ahahah..v all know driver tgh press button while looking at it if got real button like nokia phone, we don even hv to look at it..the feel will do... |
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Apr 28 2023, 10:52 AM
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Aircond controls in touch screen is the worst fucking idea
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Apr 28 2023, 10:53 AM
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Yup. iDrive 7 I think is the best of both world now they came out with iDrive 8 which was confusing and a mess don’t let me start with that huge slab of panel.
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Apr 28 2023, 10:53 AM
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Well, voice control kan ada. Hi Proton!
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Apr 28 2023, 10:57 AM
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yesterday i saw a video about tesla 3 year ownership review and 1 of the thing he complained is the screen...everything is touchscreen...even the a/c control it's distracting if you want to adjust the a/c when you're driving fongsk26 liked this post
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Apr 28 2023, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Apr 28 2023, 09:40 AM) im 37 years old and i prefer my car not really fully electronic. I do think there is too much unnecessary information in the car now. How many of us actually really use these information when we are driving vs good to have to fiddle during driving.i dont prefer touch screen too. for me it is too distracting. I dont like big screen on my dashboard too. but im a poorfag so i dont have all this problem as my car is 10 years old liao. Back in the old days, we just have speedometer, tachometer, fuel gauge indicator, handbrake signal, turning lights indicators, and temperature indicators. These are the basic needs, I think. And if we wished to listen to radio or use the air con, the knobs are there. And we know instivvely where they are. The new generation cars… now they Ben have display a large as 12”….and a lot of info that is not critical but good to have, IMO. And the costs goes up with all these new gadgets added. |
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Apr 28 2023, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 28 2023, 10:57 AM) yesterday i saw a video about tesla 3 year ownership review Don’t Tesla has voice control functions like SIRI? He can use that SIRI equivalent instead of manually does this.and 1 of the thing he complained is the screen...everything is touchscreen...even the a/c control it's distracting if you want to adjust the a/c when you're driving |
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Apr 28 2023, 11:11 AM
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button and knob for the win
keep touch screen for phone will do |
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Apr 28 2023, 11:13 AM
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Is like asking u like flat or tit
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Apr 28 2023, 11:15 AM
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press her button, tweak her knobs. can't do that with a touchscreen!
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Apr 28 2023, 11:16 AM
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This is why Mazda 3 is fun. No touchscreen.
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