QUOTE(skty @ Dec 2 2023, 01:27 PM)
After I read so many messages in this thread, I still proceed to deposit RM500k into two newly created accounts.

But it will take 5 days to withdraw all your funds.
Digital bank Rize, By Al Rajhi Bank
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Rize just up. I did a transfer, and confirmed received by other bank. Faster do your transfers if need to. In case problem repeats tomorrow... nexona88 liked this post
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Dec 2 2023, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(woowoo1 @ Dec 2 2023, 04:29 PM) Hah hah, our own money but we sound like stealing our own money, need to transfer quick. Idk how much rize deposit they lost but it is really bad image for them I just leave 5k in there to earn 5%. No more worries for December This post has been edited by BWassup: Dec 2 2023, 04:31 PM |
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Dec 2 2023, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(woowoo1 @ Dec 2 2023, 04:51 PM) I use all these platform to keep emergency cash only. When I need it I will draw it yet earn good interest compared to bank casa My long term deposit are still with banks FD there won't be too much money in these platform Sometimes it more than emergency cash, whilst waiting for other investment opportunities. Which don't wish to lock up in 3 month FD. As for 1 month FD, the rates are too low, and still not as flexible as on-demand deposits. think many people thought Rize was the ideal platform for this purpose. woowoo1 liked this post
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QUOTE(woowoo1 @ Dec 2 2023, 09:22 PM) For me versa is slowlah, for money to come in it is t+2working days, here you already lose interest. Disbursement you also must count money in not just out I never used Versa before. But I had used KDI Save before moving spare funds to Rize. KDI Save was quite efficient for same day value, but need to meet the morning cut-off time for submission of withdrawal request. What are the current withdrawal and deposit cut-off times?I see many angry people calling for full withdrawal, this episode really bad publicity for rize Based on the slowness of Versa, in your opinion, just go with KDI Save if moving funds out of Rize? This post has been edited by BWassup: Dec 2 2023, 10:21 PM |
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Dec 3 2023, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(woowoo1 @ Dec 3 2023, 05:41 PM) Obviously no. What can you do except wait right. Keeping quiet and not answering calls is even worse. I think that first and foremost, they should also have assured all depositors that their deposits are 100% secure, and no losses will arise. Like I mentioned, I had this experience b4 from another bank. It was a big transfer of rm20k. I understand the frustration but at least that bank did a good job in assuring my funds will be refunded and safe . Here you have them avoiding your calls and not issuing any statement, even worse I agree move all your funds if you don't feel secure. I have also moved another 50% of my funds away b4 they issued the statement as I wasn't happy with how they handle this whole issue This they didn't do. woowoo1 liked this post
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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Dec 3 2023, 09:41 PM) Good idea! They can credit each account with RM20 as a retainer fee, due to the inconvenience caused ASoulNamedLeo liked this post
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 3 2023, 09:58 PM) The apps messed up has caused Rize alot of money methinks. Actualy I dont know how they make money as a digital bank, because they need to cover high interest paid to depositors, staff costs, etc. So far, I have not received any marketing information or telemarketing calls from them. Not that I want them to call me, but just wondering interest incorrect, money not credited here, over credited there... short people would not let Rize makan. more Rize bite the bullet lah. |
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Dec 3 2023, 10:24 PM) I see. So it's not actually a bank in the sense we normally understand banking business.Investment returns are uncertain and volatile, unlike bank lending. Good thing there is PIDM insurance, otherwise they would find it harder to garner deposits. |
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 4 2023, 09:32 AM) banks can make money , but this chaos has caused them to lose additional money in errors in crediting Maybe they also have access to cheap syariah funding from Islamic-minded companies, GLCs and individuals. Who do not move funds out so often. Won't hurt them if we withdraw, as we are all high cost customers This post has been edited by BWassup: Dec 4 2023, 12:25 PM |
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 4 2023, 05:21 PM) BNM won’t pull their license in the 1st place 🤦♀️ because they never awarded to Rize as it is piggybacking on current existing retail banking license from Al Rajhi 🤦♀️ They have staff costs like the Call Centre, which is always busy attending to complaints Digital banks would save on physical presence costs like operating branches and manpower as they will divert the costs to infrastructure instead as the cost savings from there itself They also need to have staff to attend to lending activities and processing, marketing activities, IT, etc. They will also have physical offices somewhere, albeit saving quite a lot on not having an extensive physical branch offices, as you point out. As for the infrastructure costs, maybe they didn't spend enough, given the wonky and insecure systems and apps! Anyway, let's not debate the merits of digital banks vs physical banks. Rize has failed many depositors' basic expectations and lost trust. We shall have to wait another 4 weeks to see if they have really resolved the problems encountered. This is probably the final test we can endure. All the best to us This post has been edited by BWassup: Dec 4 2023, 07:06 PM |
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QUOTE(Nicknamed666 @ Dec 6 2023, 01:00 AM) Called them and they say they will refund my money in 3 working days, so probably Friday. Will there be a repeat system crash if massive withdrawals on 1st January Asked about the promotion rate, he told me will go back to normal rate which is 0.75 for first 10000 but the others I forgot 😝 |
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Dec 6 2023, 09:51 AM) good to know early, we can plan the exit These rates are poorer than some regular bank savings account. If really true, expect them to lose almost all their retail depositsold base rate as below:
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