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post Oct 28 2023, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 27 2023, 08:20 PM)
I doubt doubt you  know what you are talking...
first thing first..

tell us what do you mean by that add on 1 month a day first..

and withdraw and add again? give  example in numbers.
dont cakap kosong

For me Sept balance  RM0
October  i put RM30,000, i should get entries, you agree or not?

you talked like you know a lot....
now i challenge you to answer below

Mr A
Sept MAIB = RM0
Oct Deposit RM30k on 1st day, 1.10.23, no spend no withdrawal
How many entries Mr A get for October?

Mr B
Sept MAIB =RM0.00
Oct deposit RM30k on last day, 31.10.23
How many entries Mr B get for Oct 2023?
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Already TnC give you example 1 and 2 yet wanna ask 🤦‍♀️ so simple yet wanna ask

QUOTE(virtualgay @ Oct 27 2023, 09:53 PM)
Betul but I can't I always need to spend pay this pay that
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Which is why pure savings is the best way to track

QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Oct 28 2023, 09:23 AM)
managed to deregister & deactivate and reactivate after few more tries and successfully transfer in..not sure if issue was on rize side or duitnow in the 1st place
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Duitnow side 🤦‍♀️ unlikely Rize unless their receiving side should have error

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post Oct 30 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Oct 30 2023, 10:19 AM)
All wrong just 15 entries per person per month
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Go read properly TnC 🤦‍♀️ there is no limit to max entries per account 🤦‍♀️ refer to TNC example 2
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post Oct 31 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Oct 31 2023, 10:20 AM)
tomorrow onwards i gonna leave my account with just RM500 from 1st till 30 Nov and keep it inside Versa
then on 1st Dec onwards till 31st Dec i gonna make sure i deposit RM1k daily
will this strategy work?
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Higher chances of hitting the monthly prizes 🤦‍♀️ but not the grand prizes
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post Nov 1 2023, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 1 2023, 01:59 AM)
yeah as mentioned, take out old money  deposit back next month become new
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why not same for grand prize?
more entries not more chances?
.. interest really in at this odd hours..

Rize confirm bole pakai
calculation  perfect  :thumbsup:
deposit nite earn interest same nite. :thumbsup:

11.10. RM5000
12.10 15k
16.10 4k
17.10 10k
18.10 18.4k
25.10 RM270
bonus RM20 =
total RM52690,

interest RM99.32
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Because the grand prize is only 2 🤦‍♀️ while monthly prize more in quantity 🤦‍♀️ hence higher chances in probability Simple maths

QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 1 2023, 08:17 AM)
I did not receive yet for OCTOBER interest !!!???!?!?!
How come now ?
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If you received Sept on time 🤦‍♀️ then Oct time for you to suffer those who earlier had the same problems
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post Nov 2 2023, 04:05 AM

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QUOTE(sgarden2000 @ Nov 1 2023, 04:45 PM)
so do you mean that they will not receive any interest anymore? or there will be delay in payment??
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Delay in profit distribution 🤦‍♀️ not interest because not shariah compliant

QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 1 2023, 05:04 PM)
You have evil thoughts!!!!

July, August, September all on time !!!
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Not evil 🤦‍♀️ because the way they fix the issue 🤦‍♀️ those who previously no issue will encounter the issue now

QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 1 2023, 05:20 PM)
Bad luck
No wonder CEO kena fired🔥
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CEO didn’t get fired 🤦‍♀️ because of this but it is due to underperforming in growing the business particularly whether the DUM is growing or not
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post Nov 2 2023, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 2 2023, 10:16 AM)
when Rize going to hire their new CEO - they can hire me.. i sure make them better than all the banks
1st thing is come here get idea on how to improve their stupid APP!!!
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Being CEO is not as easy what you think 🤦‍♀️ it is not about improving the app but growing the users base and profit growth 1st is their priority and the app is dumb down to a lower priority

QUOTE(virulence @ Nov 2 2023, 02:54 PM)
Is that the company which they outsourced Rize app to?
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Nope 🤦‍♀️ it is a local company
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post Nov 4 2023, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(woowoo1 @ Nov 3 2023, 07:43 AM)
I must say this is the most unstable banking app I have come across. Like some people here just 2 months back didnt receive contractual rate and this month did not receive interest for the month. Their it and vendor doing this app shld be sacked. If by tmrw I don't receive the interest it is best I write to bnm so that they can take this issue seriously
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If it is in DM they would be sacked instantly 🤦‍♀️ and the regulator will issue a warning unlike corrupted BNM

QUOTE(blabla987 @ Nov 3 2023, 08:43 AM)
this year will be the last for the promo rate right
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Nope 🤦‍♀️ still got 2 more to go

QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Nov 3 2023, 01:30 PM)
After 31/12/2023 immediately withdraw all out from Rize
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Then you will missed out Dec promo 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 4 2023, 11:19 AM)
Until today (4 days passed) still no October interest being credited to my account. No update to my ticket too.
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Wait at least 2 weeks 🤦‍♀️ that is how slow the vendor works on the issue and I bet you they will email you later and said only credited on the next month which happens previously on those affected during Sep profit distribution 🤦‍♀️ not interest because it is Shariah compliant

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post Nov 6 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 6 2023, 12:04 PM)
1.3K interest?
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Because he put in about rm250k in principal 🤦‍♀️ so he expect rm1300 in monthly profit distribution 🤦‍♀️
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post Nov 6 2023, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 6 2023, 12:56 PM)
1.3k transfer out to other bank, got rejected notification but money not return to me
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Did you called the receipant bank? It might be due to Duitnow problem where the money either stuck
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post Nov 7 2023, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 6 2023, 02:34 PM)
Hahahah 😂😂😂
Lousy rize now CEO also resign
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Not resign 🤦‍♀️ but fired with dignity intact

QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 6 2023, 08:56 PM)
This Rize is licenced or not?
authority also dont care with complaints?
Rize credited a failed deposit RM30k for me also on 2.11.23
4 days already still there...
but methinks i were to try withdraw it wont go through
just wonder anyone has done duitnow transfer out RM50k or 20k?
money should be instantly in bank account right if no hiccup?
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Of course it is licensed 🤦‍♀️ otherwise they can’t call themselves a bank with PIDM protection

QUOTE(sjz @ Nov 7 2023, 09:48 AM)
seem like their process is quite 'manual' in a sense  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Very manual 🤦‍♀️ particularly their auditing part

QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 7 2023, 01:16 PM)
Received my reply after 3 working days in my email
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Standard reply 🤦‍♀️ and expect it to be fixed by end of the month because account adjustment
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post Nov 7 2023, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 7 2023, 01:46 PM)
like that lose some of the Nov interest  mad.gif  bangwall.gif
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They will pay out the extra in it 🤦‍♀️ you just need to recalculate which happens to those who are affected earlier
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post Nov 15 2023, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(UnrequitedC @ Nov 14 2023, 10:21 PM)
Actually I quite skeptical on Rize.

- Not so much advertisement/news covering for Rize.
- The bank is not prominent in Malaysia.
- 5% interest sounds abit too good to be true.
- Attractive rewards/prize that not offered by any other banks.
- Now there is late payment of interest
- CEO Malaysia step down

Can anyone confirm pidm cover for this Rize saving account?
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The lesser known the banks are better 🤦‍♀️ since they can offer to depositors rather than useless lower rates banks like Tiger bank

Bank business is cutthroat and it is all about costs and squeezing as much as possible while banks CEO step down is not a big deal 🤦‍♀️ unlike the banks founder which will have more impact instead like what is happening to PBB
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post Nov 17 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(vaksin @ Nov 17 2023, 12:08 PM)
can borrow money from them not?
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Can 🤦‍♀️ but you have to pay PL rates 🤦‍♀️
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post Nov 27 2023, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 27 2023, 02:45 PM)
Interest/Profit rate: Rize > TnG E-wallet > GXBank > other traditional banks
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Cannot compare this way 🤦‍♀️ when TnG doesn’t have PIDM protection and Rize and GXBank actual bank which holding actual liquidity while TnG outsource 🤦‍♀️ to Principal to manage without protection

QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 27 2023, 02:48 PM)
tng ewallet even higher interest 3.25% or something
i think they got limit on the amount u can keep
tng is technically not digital bank more of a ewallet saja
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Limit up to 9500 🤦‍♀️ without PIDM protection and subject to many problems particularly those who got soft ban
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post Nov 27 2023, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 27 2023, 04:22 PM)
KDI 4%, VERSA 4.3% - this 2 no PIDM and got limit
TNG - too small limit and no PIDM
GX Bank 3% got PIDM
Rize 4% got PIDM

i guess real winner is Rize for now
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Yes in terms of return with protection with up to 250k limit 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 27 2023, 04:30 PM)
Actually speaking...

PIDM protection or not really make difference???

Not they gonna GG anytime soon 😆
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Makes a lot of difference 🤦‍♀️ to those ultra conservatives

QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 27 2023, 04:47 PM)
PIDM also insure 250K only. But 250K would already generate 800+ interest per month on Rize, which can use to buy lot of Starbucks.
I personally don't have issue with Versa except it is not so instant (withdraw/deposit) compare to Rize, so I'll prioritize Rize over Versa as I'm only storing the free floating money, while those longer term deposit, might as well just deposit in EPF
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Versa 🤦‍♀️ is instant if you Versa Cash-I and same day withdrawal before 10.30 am

QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 27 2023, 05:03 PM)
PIDM is nothing lo... if they fail, lots of banks will also fail. when banks fail govt will fail next, you think Govt can pay ?
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PIDM is just another circuit breaker 🤦‍♀️ before anything major happens to the banks 🤦‍♀️ as it is backup as the 1st layer protection before anything major for the banks to deploy Statutory Reserve Requirement which are parker in BNM before a major defaults happens

History shown that is unlikely default will happen in Malaysia as the govt will forced statutory bodies like EPF to take over as major shareholders
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post Nov 28 2023, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 27 2023, 11:11 PM)
i still put 10k into Versa Cash and 3k into Versa PRS for the purpose of Tax Relief and 6% / 12% return smile.gif
After 1st Feb i gonna move my 10k back into Rize
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What happens if after 1 Jan no extension to 4% 🤦‍♀️ then you will still back in Versa again 🤦‍♀️
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QUOTE(woowoo1 @ Dec 1 2023, 07:59 AM)
Hah I normally wake up very early. Anyway since this system very buggy need to monitor monthly. Past  2 months in a row I have problem.first wrong calculation, then no interest.now I see people complaining duit now can't go thru. How their system pass bnm scrutiny I also don't know
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They pass by using testing app 🤦‍♀️ without much consumers loads as POC can be done easily without real life load

QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 1 2023, 08:29 AM)
Their ad-hoc maintenance seem to break things more than fixing it.
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Then you should ask the outsource company 🤦‍♀️ as their own support wouldn’t know until you all complaint

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 1 2023, 08:29 AM)
really not reliable. what if someone in need of money urgently? i also dunno
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Then switch

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 08:36 AM)
Because of the interest we all flock with them 🤑💰
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The interest is only small with 4% goes only 20.54 per month max 🤦‍♀️ ppl flock because of liquidity and PIDM protection

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 08:50 AM)
Don't know why Rize like this

Seems like it's run & operated by some bunch of incompetent people around....

Always got issues
.and it's backed by foreign bank too...
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The problem is not the running and operated by imcompentent people 🤦‍♀️ but they have no idea on how the tech works for digital bank which is why always got problem on the back end 🤦‍♀️ so nothing to do with incompetent but lack of clarity on it
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 08:56 AM)
Don't really think so...

More like operated by some bunch of incompetent people...

If scam... Then it's should goes to that airlines got busted.... Really overnight GG 😠
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Not that easy because BNM licensed them 🤦‍♀️ so it is back to BNM incompetence for allowing such to happens

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 09:21 AM)
Probably the system is overload with all the transactions

Keep so called maintenance but system still old level...

How to trust them if like this
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Blame on their outsourced 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(leanman @ Dec 1 2023, 10:32 AM)
I doubt that was the actual time which the interested was Credited. My past 4 months are all the same timing at 11:59:59
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Yes they can backdate anytime 🤦‍♀️ very dangerous for such

QUOTE(sjz @ Dec 1 2023, 10:51 AM)
really crazy apps run by incompetent ppl.
no wonder the CEO resigned. doh.gif  doh.gif
they dun even allow you to login the apps.
use some stupid excuse that your phone is rooted.

is its rooted, why my phone can use ALL OTHER banking apps except this Rize??
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CEO resigned to pursue better offers 🤦‍♀️ nothing to do with how their run but how the manage the outsourcing 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(sjz @ Dec 1 2023, 11:22 AM)
an entire new apps is needed.
they shud scarp this entire apps.
as the apps is rotten to the core.

1st time encounter such problematic and unstable apps.

who dare to trust their money on this kind of crappy apps   puke.gif  puke.gif
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New app is needed 🤦‍♀️ they will have to go through BNM approval again as it will take time

QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 1 2023, 11:37 AM)
Now we know that a system reliant on apps only, without a backup, can be very risky.

If there was at least a web back-up, even if only for checking account information, it would give depositors greater assurance of their money.

Are digital banks not allowed a website, which is also digital platform isn't it?
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Website is allowed but questioned is whether they wanna do it 🤦‍♀️ because it will cost more to them to host in the outsourced facilities

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 11:54 AM)
The apps got really bad issues today...

Seriously something really wrong...

Staff didn't get their pay yet??? So they sabotage 🤔🧐
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Nothing to do with the staff 🤦‍♀️ but the outsourced facilities hosted 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(sjz @ Dec 1 2023, 11:56 AM)
i was wondering,
for all our $$ records.
did they keep a backup record copy in the backend in case anything happen?

let's say the whole app kaput, at least there is something to refer to.

else it will b very ugly, looking at the apps stability prob
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Of course they will have paper backup 🤦‍♀️ as BNM will mandated it in their audits 🤦‍♀️

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 12:27 PM)
probably system not design for this level of mass-withdrawals  devil.gif

thus it's crashed big time
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Nah 🤦‍♀️ it is more on the PM that broke the entire app 🤦‍♀️ as you can see their lines of coding is broken in any function the user is doing

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 1 2023, 12:58 PM)
i suggest u all spam bnm chat. i tell them the issue, the fella ask me go email them. really clueless these ppl

https://bnmlink.bnm.gov.my/site/livechat
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Email 🤦‍♀️ because they want to record down for ticketing purposes

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 1 2023, 01:19 PM)
so far...

no solution yet...

it's Rize issues...

let them resolved first...

then we all mass withdraw... until they bankrupt  devil.gif
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They won’t bankrupt 🤦‍♀️ because still got physical business

QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 1 2023, 01:52 PM)
wah mini bank run ah lol

Now you learn it the hard way. One market one price. 4-5% p.a. doesn't come cheap.

There is a reason why they can offer above market rates - it's because they are riskier lol
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That is what most don’t understand 🤦‍♀️ thinking higher rates with no risk assessment when the fact OPR is so much lower

QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Dec 1 2023, 01:54 PM)
Did PIDM ever took over a bank-run bank before?
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No and if it ever happens 🤦‍♀️ the bigger banks will forced to take over as BNM will forced them 1st before PIDM will be use as PIDM worse case scenario for liquidation

The last time this happens when EPF was forced to takeover MBSB and RHB to prevent bank runs 🤦‍♀️
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QUOTE(Nicknamed666 @ Dec 1 2023, 02:56 PM)
What's the best alternative to rize? Versa, KDI or GX Bank? hmm.gif
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Cannot compare this way 🤦‍♀️ KDI and Versa are for investment and slower liquidity

The only alternative is GX Bank for now

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