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 Digital bank Rize, By Al Rajhi Bank

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post Dec 7 2023, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 6 2023, 04:26 PM)
also CS said return to board rate cause they dont know what their management team decided the upcoming promo yet la..

impossible they will use board rate without offering any promo.

We already see GXBank 3% daily, so for Rize im willing to bet busuk2 also they will at least match it, if not better.
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Board rates are coming in soon πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ expect 3 to 3.5%
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post Dec 8 2023, 04:45 AM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 7 2023, 10:05 PM)
How you know this?  smile.gif
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You just wait πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ no way they can afford to extend further with cash burn
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post Dec 8 2023, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 8 2023, 04:55 AM)
better spend the money to develop their app
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Better spend the money hire in house development team instead πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ rather than now wait for outsourcing fix which takes time πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post Dec 9 2023, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 8 2023, 06:21 PM)
Sorry I was not aware. Thanks for informing.

Hopefully Rize will see fit to continue with interest rates higher than GX laugh.gif
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Unlikely to go higher already πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ unless they still got cash to burn

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 9 2023, 07:52 AM)
Rize 😁
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Rize is not digital bank in the 1st place πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ it is only piggybacking on Al Rajhi banking license πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ hence the word powered by

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 9 2023, 10:54 AM)
ytl getting lots of business huh lately
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They got big cable inside πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ also you need to update as Moneylion already exited while GX Bank doesn’t have Singtel involvement because of BNM licensing rules πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

https://www.techinasia.com/aeon-to-proceed-...-moneylion-exit

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post Dec 9 2023, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(cwyeoh @ Dec 9 2023, 03:52 PM)
Today my rize cannot do transfer... Terrible
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On IOS or Android this time

QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 9 2023, 04:37 PM)
I didn't say go higher than current rates, but go higher than GX, which is 3.5% currently. 3.5% or slightly higher is fair possibility for Rize after 31 December..
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3.25 easily they can stomach in πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ but 3.5% it is different story but it should be the high end of it

Btw GX is offering OPR rates πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ at 3% not 3.5%

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post Dec 10 2023, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Dec 10 2023, 09:56 AM)
I thought GX only 3%?
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GX is offering OPR rates at 3% so when it is compounded it would be around 3.05% with rounding factored in
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post Dec 10 2023, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 10 2023, 05:01 PM)
I'm not a customer yet. Just quoting what other people here said earlier. Now looking at the website, yeah, it's only 3% daily compounding rate for savings account. Not so exciting after all.

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What excitement do you want πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ from savings account

If you want excitement go ahead put your money in crypto instead
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post Dec 11 2023, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 11 2023, 05:31 PM)
Rize? no daily interest but higher rate overall. For now.

KDI save is not a bank but has higher rates than GX. Acceptable if can live with fund withdrawal within same day.

As calculated by someone a day or 2 ago, daily interest @ 3% compounded daily is only 3.04xxx %. Daily interest doesn't give much more.
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It is close to 3.05% after 1 year include daily compound

QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 11 2023, 05:32 PM)
Hahaha. not exciting in that sense. Just that we got used to 4/5% with Rize. laugh.gif
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If you want exciting πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ go blame BNM for not raising rates or you can put your money in exciting TΓΌrkiye or Argentina where interest rates are double digits percentage πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post Dec 12 2023, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Dec 12 2023, 03:20 PM)
lots of people discussing OPR and keep on telling
increase OPR will definitely strengthen the value of currency.

there r examples out there, look at Argentina or Turkey, how many % is their OPR and how their currency behave.

my view is that, currency in circulation plays a bigger role.
simple logics, you keep printing paper $$, your $$ value will drop.
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Currency circulation is higher πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ due to lower OPR because the biggest borrower is the govt and you need to print more because more lending incurs

If higher rates then less currency is printed hence less borrowing πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Malaysia currency drop because the fundamentals is not strong enough to sustain more lending at lower rates and the value of goods goes up because 70% traded goods are in USD πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ which costs imported inflation

Look at SG at the current rates inflation is controlled with the exception of housing prices due to high demand and lower supply
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post Dec 12 2023, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(virulence @ Dec 12 2023, 04:16 PM)
When inflation rate is higher than interest rate means they have negative real rates hence their currency is losing purchasing power. Inflation is a hidden tax.

Interest rate % - Inflation rate % = Real interest rate %
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Remember when Malaysia starting opening up late 2021 that’s where negative real rates started when inflation rate is higher than interest rate

Currently it is still negative real rates when comparing with inflation and food inflation rate hence why OPR is on the back foot for so long πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post Dec 14 2023, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 14 2023, 03:46 PM)
yup. Wait for around CNY time. Usually banks will have good FD promotions..

Earlier this year PBB 4.8% 24 months lock in is 🀀🀀

oh and btw, xander2k8 come say hi la, dont shy shy hiding and play spam report button only lol.
Give us some of your expert facepalm insights on how come Rize able to offer 4% for 3 more months. Cause you were so confident they wont be able to do it.  hmm.gif
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3 months extension only πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ and no further after that

In fact they can pay the extension as the outflow should be more than in flow hence they can afford due to smaller DUM
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post Dec 14 2023, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Dec 14 2023, 03:56 PM)
Aww the 5% Rize is gone, but 4% is still more attractive than GXBank, next year going to be more interesting since 3 more digital banks launching soon πŸ€”
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In fact 4 with BoostRHB should be up next
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post Dec 14 2023, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 14 2023, 03:58 PM)
ni always wrong info.

gxbank debit card also give wrong info.
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GXBank debit card πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ already said before CNY if you read properly

They are currently now transplanting GXS architecture to GX now πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ just wait for the next app update

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post Dec 17 2023, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Dec 16 2023, 10:27 AM)
Kasi report police say Rize scam
Bring police report to BNM say Rize scam
Post you police report on social media
Post your bnm report on social media
Include your phone number when you post
Very fast reporter will contact you for an interview
Then you become famous
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15 minutes of fame only πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ after that will old story

QUOTE(hedfi @ Dec 16 2023, 01:32 PM)
Why ha? I both also don't have wor
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Cause they have largest ATM networks and you can access your money easily provided that their network is online

QUOTE(virtualgay @ Dec 16 2023, 03:01 PM)
Unker don't understand those bit coin is like face coin
NFT now become zero value
I am sure 1 day Bitcoin will become zero value
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Wait till ETF coming soon and use case goes bigger πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ by then you are already missed out on the gains

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post Dec 19 2023, 01:09 PM

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[quote=hedfi,Dec 19 2023, 07:37 AM]
[quote=xander2k8,Dec 17 2023, 05:27 PM]

Cause they have largest ATM networks and you can access your money easily provided that their network is online

When was the last you used an ATM and we have MEPS. HLB has larger branch network too🀦
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Still not as large as CIMB and RHB πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ as they do not have ATMs in petrol stations and convenience stores

I seldom use ATMs as I do my banking through counter and have cash at all times
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post Dec 19 2023, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(hedfi @ Dec 19 2023, 02:19 PM)
As always you’re very different, who still take number and queues at bank, even for PB. Last heard most are going cashless, no. You don’t trust eWallet right? doh.gif
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Wouldn’t trust EWallet as well πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ only cash in when need to use and reload for cashbacks only

You can go cashless all you want and when the network goes you will be in trouble not having backups

Just like what happened if you put all your money in Rize and it goes down πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post Dec 19 2023, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2023, 05:40 PM)
Thanks to people like you

Those counter staff still have work 😁

If everyone goes cashless... Banks don't need many more staff... Just 3 to 5 for each branch sufficient enough πŸ‘
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Don’t forget the counter now is even more efficient as less ppl using the service making it as efficient as ever

Only if Rize πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ is able to be as efficient in acknowledging and resolving problems in order to minimise downtimes
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post Dec 21 2023, 05:53 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Dec 19 2023, 06:38 PM)
so far i had a bad experience when go bank counter. at least 2-3 hours to do one counter activities. if can, i prefer dont go counter.
not to forget, parking is another issue
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Parking is not issue if you know how and where to bank πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2023, 07:57 PM)
More efficient???

Like seriously.... So far I encountered worse services with tiger & sotong....

Minimal 1 hour waiting time....
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Those 2 Tiger and Sotong forget about it πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ long time already I blacklisted

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2023, 08:37 PM)
Then people like @xander2k8 GG lorh...

Dependent on those counter services for $$$$...

So far, I think PB is to stay with counter services...
Old unker auntie fav $$$ parking place πŸ‘

Meanwhile those young gen is towards digital banks services πŸ”₯
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Won’t GG πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ if you know how to allocate and store cash with many channels

QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 20 2023, 05:02 PM)
my guess you bank with PBB or you are priority banking...sure fast lo
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Not with PBB and not using priority banking πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ is how and where you build relationship with the branch manager and staffs so minimal wait

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post Dec 21 2023, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 21 2023, 01:30 PM)
why you BL sotong and tiger banks?
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Bad customer service πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ what else
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QUOTE(virulence @ Jan 2 2024, 03:09 PM)
The market expect rate cuts from the Federal Reserve in March followed by other central banks so I guess interest rates would be dropping too over here but this will cause a spike in inflation again.Β  dry.gif
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BNM won’t cut πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ as 3% is the range itself πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ inflation is still in their control band and the lag effect as BNM will slow to react by 3 months as proven during COVID cuts

If recession happens govt will force stimulus through GLC like EPF and PNB as they are flush with cash to stimulate the economy

QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 2 2024, 04:39 PM)
wont affect as BNM tak suka ikut US Fed (anti Palestin, remember)
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BNM already have no room to manoeuvre because of RM value hence they still pat and hope RM will appreciate to 4.2 to 4.3 this year and hope inflation will go down further particularly imported inflation

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