QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 2 2024, 09:51 AM)
In the reds. Breakeven is around +-13.5k (not incl. business loans).Do u feel currently the buisness is very hard now?, after MCO open, buisness good or bad?
Do u feel currently the buisness is very hard now?, after MCO open, buisness good or bad?
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Dec 2 2024, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Dec 1 2024, 11:56 PM) No, no & no. I guess I should also mention, residing in neighborhood mall, one of the more affordable supermarket chains serving grocery needs. Fewer visitors to the neighbourhood mall, could mean competing mall took away some business.Mall foot traffic declined noticeably so it's affecting every tenants also, some saying almost as bad as Covid years. Anecdotal evidence also seeing less full grocery trolley carts during payday periods, but that's only personal sampling size so confirmation bias I guess. QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 2 2024, 12:15 AM) May mean overall consumers spending has declined.QUOTE(ze2 @ Dec 2 2024, 08:22 AM) The next or coming economic recession is unlike previous, likely caused by reduced consumers spending. |
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Dec 2 2024, 10:11 AM
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Dec 2 2024, 10:22 AM
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Dec 2 2024, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 2 2024, 11:10 AM) It's the neighborhood mall, no other ones within the area unless you go out of the township. Not deep in KV where there's a mall every other kilometers.QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 2 2024, 11:11 AM) Planning to clear business loan at start of next year so will free up some cashflow. Also it's not exactly red every month (yet), just trending downward & only recently went into the reds is all. Looking to be a close-to-breakeven year for me, which I guess is rather ok since some business I know went belly up as early as 2022/start of 2023, including bigger ones. Cashing it off now means selling at a loss since alot of people are dumping theirs too (and do what with the money? everybody knows expendable income is down across the board). Challenge of running a business in these times, and the gomen policies are just really adding more nails to the coffin, for businesses & customers alike gashout liked this post
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Dec 2 2024, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Dec 2 2024, 10:33 AM) It's the neighborhood mall, no other ones within the area unless you go out of the township. Not deep in KV where there's a mall every other kilometers. tough ya... hopefully you have a way moving forwardPlanning to clear business loan at start of next year so will free up some cashflow. Also it's not exactly red every month (yet), just trending downward & only recently went into the reds is all. Looking to be a close-to-breakeven year for me, which I guess is rather ok since some business I know went belly up as early as 2022/start of 2023, including bigger ones. Cashing it off now means selling at a loss since alot of people are dumping theirs too (and do what with the money? everybody knows expendable income is down across the board). Challenge of running a business in these times, and the gomen policies are just really adding more nails to the coffin, for businesses & customers alike |
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Dec 2 2024, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Dec 1 2024, 02:15 PM) Significant revenue drop for the last 3 months, and things are still not looking well next year in terms of business costs. No offence, how long can you sustain for the degrowth? May I know particularly in which type of F&B ?![]() for context, in F&B but last 3 months (Sep-Nov) is worse than fasting month (Mar-Apr) |
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Dec 2 2024, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Dec 1 2024, 02:15 PM) Significant revenue drop for the last 3 months, and things are still not looking well next year in terms of business costs. We are not alone, many are facing the same situation now.... some already tutup business![]() for context, in F&B but last 3 months (Sep-Nov) is worse than fasting month (Mar-Apr) |
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Dec 2 2024, 01:15 PM
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Few of my regular F&B customer already close down.
Notice so long didn't receive order from them, so went and Google Map search for their establishments and many of their outlets show "Closed permanently". Then open up the boss whatsapp and notice the photo already changed to a Malay lady photo, even their number changed. Maybe they earned enough and retired? Maybe they closed down and venture into other business? |
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Dec 2 2024, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Dec 2 2024, 01:15 PM) Few of my regular F&B customer already close down. F&B business has low barrier of entry, many are started by novices, about 90% of them failed in the first 3 years.Notice so long didn't receive order from them, so went and Google Map search for their establishments and many of their outlets show "Closed permanently". Then open up the boss whatsapp and notice the photo already changed to a Malay lady photo, even their number changed. Maybe they earned enough and retired? Maybe they closed down and venture into other business? |
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Dec 2 2024, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(NinG @ Dec 2 2024, 12:16 PM) No offence, how long can you sustain for the degrowth? May I know particularly in which type of F&B ? Hardly an offensive question. Beverage-based FnB btw.Hard to say exactly, depends on a few factors: 1. How deep in the reds are you? 2. Any capital injection available? (Incl. personal money, if comfortable) 3. How far can you downsize? (Haven't had to do any headcount reduction yet for now). 4. Any light at the end of the tunnel that makes you feel it's worthwhile to struggle on? (Not much hope under Madani for now, feels like Bidenomics) 5. How will the OPEX increase with respect to next year's inflationary pressure? Was very conservative during EPF withdrawal's market injection post-covid, built up some reserves atleast but not much. NinG liked this post
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Dec 2 2024, 04:45 PM
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Dec 2 2024, 07:53 PM
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Dec 4 2024, 06:28 PM
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Went to a cobbler to fix shoe, use to ask me RM12, now he asking me RM75. So business must be good right, can demand so much. khaiyen92 liked this post
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Dec 4 2024, 06:38 PM
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Dec 4 2024, 06:42 PM
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Dec 4 2024, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(jonthebaptist @ Dec 4 2024, 06:42 PM) Just pasting rubber to heel. Don't ask where. But I usually do it and I know the price. So surprised now the cobbler asking me RM75. 75. Go buy a new pair of bata shoes better... Boomwick liked this post
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Dec 4 2024, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 4 2024, 06:45 PM) 75 ringgit?knife also very big o...?gila~~ gashout liked this post
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Dec 2 2024, 04:13 PM) Hardly an offensive question. Beverage-based FnB btw. i c u write the worst revenue is around 12K, is this ur own pocket money or still havnt include the operating cost..?if yes, then really a hard struggle, if it is a net profit, then is very good already, so far didnt c any losss yetHard to say exactly, depends on a few factors: 1. How deep in the reds are you? 2. Any capital injection available? (Incl. personal money, if comfortable) 3. How far can you downsize? (Haven't had to do any headcount reduction yet for now). 4. Any light at the end of the tunnel that makes you feel it's worthwhile to struggle on? (Not much hope under Madani for now, feels like Bidenomics) 5. How will the OPEX increase with respect to next year's inflationary pressure? Was very conservative during EPF withdrawal's market injection post-covid, built up some reserves atleast but not much. |
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