Pictures of my gaharu trees



This post has been edited by amirbashah: Aug 12 2013, 03:02 PM

I thought agarwood can only be collected from dead fallen tree in the jungle ?? Never heard of commercially planted agarwood.

Yes, it is usually found in the jungle.But due to uncontrolled logging activities,the number of these trees have decreased.I just found out about this particular tree a few days ago from a man who is currently planting these trees.There is this one old guy planted agarwood trees on his 30 acres land and a Japanese investor wants to buy the trees for RM60 million.IM NOT JOKING.

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Added on October 11, 2007, 6:53 amAgarwood, aloeswood, eaglewood, jinkoh, gaharu are names for the world's most valuable incense. This resinous material is produced by tropical rainforest trees and has been used for centuries as incense and in traditional medicine. In the past, old growth Aquilaria and Gyrinops trees were indiscriminately cut to find the resin (usually hidden within the center of only a few old trees). Today in many countries of Southeast Asia where the tree was once native, it has become very rare due to increased harvesting. The resinous wood or oil extracted from the inside of some trees is extremely valuable since it is highly regarded for use during Buddhist and Islamic cultural activities as well as an important ingredient in many traditional medicines. It is also an extremely important component in traditional Japanese incense ceremonies. Although most people in the United States and Europe are not familiar with this aromatic resinous wood, its use as incense (called aloeswood) is mentioned several times in the bible. People in the United States, Europe and other countries that have had the opportunity to smell the fragrance of this extraordinary incense find it very appealing and pleasant.

Aquilaria trees are now protected in most countries and the collection of agarwood is illegal from natural forests. International agreements, such as CITES (the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora), accepted by 169 countries, is designed to ensure trade in agarwood products from wild trees does not threaten the survival of Aquilaria. Despite these efforts agarwood products from illegally cut trees continues to be sold and unknowing consumers create a demand that helps to destroy the last old growth Aquilaria trees in existence.

What triggers agarwood to form in some old growth trees has been an unsolved mystery.This technique consists of wounding trees in a specific manner and applying treatments to accelerate the natural defense responses of the tree. The technique allows a sustainable yield of resin to be produced in relatively young trees. Agarwood is a high value forest product that is easy to store and ship.The sustainable production of agarwood in plantation grown trees eliminates the need to cut old growth forest trees for the resin and will help save this endangered tree from possible extinction. This work also provides a source of cultivated agarwood so this magnificent aromatic resin can be enjoyed by people throughout the world.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 11 2007, 06:53 AM

so, are you here to offer us "the trees"?

Hmmm... you can say that I am actually quite familiar with this topic because I am involved in a research related to gaharu. Just for your information, the price of the gaharu itself depends solely in the grade of the resin and cultivated gaharu is known to have a grade of around "C" which does not really fetch a good price in the market. There are still alot of grey area in this trade so you can say that there are risk involved.

So do you think it's a good investment?So far I only heard positive stories about gaharu but you're the first one to tell me differently.But I really appreciate your opinion and your expertise though.I learned about gaharu from a man also doing a research on gaharu.He didn't mention anything negative about the plant.I wouldn't know because I am still new in this subject.In your honest opinion, how much does one kilogram of agarwood/resin cost in Malaysia?Do you think it's worth the money.I am planning to invest my money on these tress soon.Your opinion is much appreciated.

I rather plant marijuana or cocaine tree.

What if there's 1k of person are planting this agarwood in Malaysia? Won't be the market price will also decrease?

Demand : High
Supply : Low
Market Price : High

Demand : High
Supply : High
Market Price : Normal

I dont think it's so easy as planting it, then it will grow. Trees need time and skills to maintain it unfortunately...

In my opinion, it is always a great investment to plant tree (because I am a forester ). I have to first make myself clear that I am not trying to prevent you guys to plant the tree. Instead I want you guys to think about what I have to say and YOU yourself have to analyze the risk involve.

At the time being, there are alot of people in West Malaysia that is planting the tree. I myself know a close friend that has around two thousand tree intercropped in his oil palm estate which is growing nicely. What everyone has in mind is that "there are money to be made here" so they started to plant lots of it. What alot of people does not know is that planting the tree alone is not enough!!! In layman's term, you have to "treat" this tree in order for it to produce the valuable resin. Frankly speaking, this so called "treatment" is quite new to Malaysia and we did not have any convincing result that there is an effective treatment that we can use on the tree. At the moment, a lot of R&D department including the one that I am working in at the moment is testing the treatment out. On our side, we will at least need another 1 year to get some result. So for those that is interested to invest. You might have to take the risk that there might not be an effective treatment technique out there that you can use and the worse scenario is that you might need more than 7 years to grow the tree and you have to sell them off as timber or other wood based product.

Next is the price. You might have heard of those unbelievable expensive gaharu product somewhere before but mind you, those gaharu might be extracted from the wild (assuming no plantation can produce any at the moment). Good quality gaharu can fetch a price as high as rm60-70 per gram (rough estimation). Yes I know that it is kind of crazy but people actually pay to buy this stuff. Now back to the planting of the tree. Based on some data from Thailand which is way ahead of us in research. Gaharu produced in plantation will most likely give you grade "C" gaharu which can be sold as USD100 per kilo (around rm300, another rough estimation since i dont have my file with me now). So the real question is, Is it worth planting a tree for 7 years in hope of a return of rm300 per tree assuming the minimum resin production is 1 kilo per tree? There are actually a lot more to discuss here but I can only think about this for the time being.

It's not regarding easy or not to grow. This kind of market are the same like mushroom. It will grow whenever there's a chance to grow. If you get what I mean.

If I'm not mistaken,the researcher who introduced me to gaharu told me they have found a way to create the resin from the trees.He's working in Malaysian Institute for Nuclear Technology Research (MINT) and they claimed that they have found the method to create the resin.Furthermore,he said even MARDI or other government institutions haven't found the treatment yet.To be honest,I'm a bit skeptical about it.I'm sure you are familiar with injecting the trees to create agarwood.By the way,which company or institution are you from?Well,I guess I have to do a thorough research first before I invest in these trees.

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Added on October 12, 2007, 11:45 pmAnw, Selamat Hari Raya to all Muslims.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 12 2007, 11:45 PM

From what i've heard, the demand for these artificialy created resin in the middle east has drop due to the allergic & flu the arab gets after using it in their house.
And the is one company in kelantan which is giving free 'dopu' tree to be planted by land owner and from the brochure that i saw this morning during Raya gathering at my mother in law house, it is our beloved Tengku Anis who give out these free dopu tree. maybe i could scan the brochure and paste it here but this is raya day. maybe tomorrow i post it.

he he posting using D810 + celcom 3g

there are only a few suitable place to plant this tree in malaysia one of it is in pahang near bentong one of my partner friend has already done this for the past two years.....so now is waiting for the tree to mature

What's a dopu tree?What it's usually called in Malay?Hope you could post the pictures/brochure a.s.a.p.zzThanks.

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Added on October 14, 2007, 3:18 amSo what was your friend's opinion or yours about the plant?Do you think it could make a lot of money as people perceive it could?

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 14 2007, 03:18 AM

it might make alot of money when it works but have to wait and see

Bila menyebut gaharu, ramai di antara kita yang membayangkan harganya yang begitu mahal sehingga ada yang mengatakan ia lebih bernilai dari emas. Harganya boleh mencecah sehingga RM14,000 - RM20,000 sekilogram untuk kepingan gaharu yang bermutu tinggi. Namun, semua hasil ini diambil dari hutan dan kini realitinya, pokok karas diancam kepupusan.Tanpa kesedaran untuk penanaman semula, negara kita mungkin tidak lagi dapat mengeksport hasil gaharu yang begitu tinggi permintaannya ke negara-negara Timur Tengah dan juga negara lain seperti Taiwan, Jepun dan sebagainya. Mungkin kita patut menoleh ke negara jiran yang lain seperti Indonesia, Thailand dan Myamar, mereka sudah jauh meninggalkan kita dari segi teknologi dan perladangan.
Mungkin, kekurangan sumber maklumat yang tepat dan juga permulaan modal yang tinggi untuk diusahakan secara komersil menjadi faktor ia kurang diminati. Wajar, agensi - agensi kerajaan yang ada memainkan peranan dalam menyalurkan fakta yang lengkap dan perkembangan teknologi harus dicapai dalam usaha menjadikan ia sebagai industri direalisasikan.Ramai di antara kita yang tidak sedar, usaha penanaman pokok karas sudahpun dilakukan oleh beberapa agensi yang ada di beberapa tempat di negara kita, juga penyelidikan dalam penghasilan gaharu melalui kaedah suntikan dan inokulasi juga giat dijalankan.Namun, kurangnya pendedahan dan pengumpulan maklumat, ia kurang memberi impak dalam pelaksanaannya.Untuk mereka yang berminat dalam penanaman pokok karas, mungkin ada berita gembira. Mulai tahun hadapan (2007), teknologi dalam penghasilan gaharu akan dibawa masuk ke negara kita. Usaha menjemput Prof. Blanchette oleh satu agensi kerajaan adalah sangat tepat pada masanya. Namun, jika kita tidak menanamnya, teknologi tiada makna.Berbalik kepada usaha penanaman pokok karas secara ladang, beberapa faktor harus dipertimbangkan seperti pemilihan anak benih, jarak tanaman, kaedah tanaman, kaedah suntikan dan pasaran. Ia harus dinilai untuk meminimakan risiko yang ada dan mendapat hasil yang maksima selepas 7 tahun pelaburan.Pertamanya, pemilihan anak benih sering menjadi persoalan. Ada yang mengatakan spesis A lebih baik dari spesis B dan ada yang sebaliknya kerana ia lebih cepat membesar dan lebih mahal. Seharusnya kita meneliti semula beberapa kajian, pokok karas sebenarnya mempunyai method yang berbeza dengan pokok lain. Pokok yang sihat dan membesar dengan cepat menghasilkan resin gaharu yang sedikit berbanding pokok yang sakit dan diganggu. Ia sebenarnya selari dengan kejadian semulajadi gaharu di dalam hutan, pokok yang berada di kawasan berbatu dan mengalami tindakbalas kecederaan yang teruk menghasilkan gaharu yang lebih bermutu. Kita juga harus melihat kepada permintaan pasaran, spesis manakah yang menjadi pilihan pembeli dan mempunyai harga yang tinggi. Spesis Aquilaria Malaccencis adalah merupakan salah satu spesis yang mempunyai nilai komersil yang tinggi.Manakala kaedah penanaman, jarak penanaman 6"x6" atau 10"x10" menghasilkan jumlah tanaman pada 430 pokok atau 1,000 pokok seekar. Penanaman secara intergrasi adalah lebih meminimunkan risiko, malahan memberi pulangan jangka pendek yang boleh menampung kos keseluruhan. Sulaman boleh dilakukan dengan tanaman herba dan tanaman kontang. Penjarakkan yang sesuai harus dilihat. Selepas pokok karas mencapai usia 5 tahun, suntikan sejenis enzim dilakukan untuk penghasilan gaharu dan dibiarkan selama 2 tahun sebelum mendapat hasil. Perlu diingatkan, tanpa teknologi ini pokok karas tidak akan membentuk gaharu di dalamnya. Berbeza dengan semulajadi, gaharu terbentuk pada usia pokok 20 - 40 tahun melalui gangguan oleh fizikal atau microrganisme.
Banyak laporan di dada akhbar dan laman web, menyatakan setiap pokok menghasilkan gaharu bernilai sehingga RM14,000 - RM18,000. Tetapi, kita perlu menilai setiap aspek dan risiko. Mungkin tidak keterlaluan jika kita meletakkan RM1,000 sahaja untuk sepokok yang menghasilkan gaharu. Bayangkan anda menanam 1,000 pokok dan anda tentu dapat mengira angkanya. Malahan jika hanya 50% sahaja yang menjadi, jumlah pendapatannya masih tinggi! Oleh itu, amat penting untuk kita semua memperolehi sebanyak mungkin maklumat untuk merealisasikan penanaman pokok karas secara ladang. Diharapkan ada agensi yang bertindak sebagai pemantau dan dapat menyimpan data semua ladang karas di negara kita. Maklumat sebegini amat berguna untuk rujukan dimasa akan datang.



Sorry guys,I dont have the English version.Hope this is ok.

Not worth the money and time dump into a venture that is uncertain, unpredictable, no proven success method.

How would you know it's not worth is?Read all of my post.

usually the uncertain,unpredictable,no proven success method type of venture which will give the highest gains example just look at the ipod..........

Thanks

Anyone interested in this investment?Maybe one of you guys could be my business partner.If you guys thinking of starting it,we could share our knowledge or something.And I know someone who could supply the trees. (I'm not a supplier)

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 18 2007, 05:54 AM

Researcher from MINT? I met a few of them before but I cant seems to be able to remember their name. Yup, I think the method that he mentioned to you is the one we are collaborating in. It involves drilling the tree and apply some "miracle drug" in it.

I am actually from the research division of the Sabah Forestry Department.

Amir is quite persistent, so go ahead & please get as much info in your new venture - my sincere advise 'discuss & get advise from your best friends' - the famous quote is 'success is created & a bit of luck'

Generally our researchers most of them are laid back and not intrested to dirty their hand find ways to improvise farmers/planters life rather depend on other researchers [foreigners] presenting their finding and we 'evaluate' them and post questions to challange their findings. Taking cue from Prof HAssan [Prof GAmat].

Thailand is far ahead of us - they are running, but our researchers are crawling - Sorry dude.

Amir you could PM/email me

This post has been edited by mohis: Oct 19 2007, 10:47 AM

http://www.fotolog.com/aquilaria/23667130


Looking from these pictures, I think you're goin to have tough competition from Thai growers.

This post has been edited by cherasbabe: Oct 20 2007, 01:19 PM

I thought you're in Semenanjung If you do come here, do PM me ok? Maybe we could have a drink and discuss on this topic.

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Added on October 20, 2007, 7:35 amAre you interested?I'll start buying and planting the trees in early 2008 because currently I don't have the capital.
I just got a job as a PTD officer and I won't be getting my salary until February.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 20 2007, 07:35 AM

what kind of land is suitable for this tree? is there any bug that attack this type tree? dont want to invest in this tree then find all of it die.

This post has been edited by robertngo: Oct 21 2007, 05:54 PM

It's a forest tree and no need to take care of it often.

haha the investment schemes people can think of nowadays.

look at this!
(picture taken from kickdefella blog)

Dopu tree is the same as Agarwood, if I'm not mistaken.

How much does it takes to do these kinda business ... i think timber is quite a big business not sure if its profitable ... If successful the pay off should be good high risk high return ...

if timber is not profitable then there shall be no timber business, no corruption in timber biz bla bla bla..

u ask small children also they know tokey balak..banyak wang...

about gaharu, it is becoz
1. it is new to us so we dunno the real potential.
2. our food/agriculture/timber technology is way behind thailand.
3. nobody who has venture in this biz willing to share..

but from here say it is very potential.
got 2 output, 1. gaharu, 2. oad oil

my bro inlaw last time produce oud oil and he can sell it to dubai customer for usd250/quater tola (quater tola is about the same size as the small perfume tester bottle).

The only problem is the supply of the dopu/gaharu tree to produce the oil (it involve distillation)

so if u can plant the trees u can produce 2 output.

Just bought the trees (Aquilaria Malaccensis), but still small though.RM5 each. Bought only 10 trees (No money) in Damansara.

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Added on October 24, 2007, 6:42 amGot this infrormation from Jasben Plantation:

Anggaran Kos Permulaan Penanaman (Kelantan) bagi Seekar Tanah


1)Membersih tanah- RM500.00

2)Anak Pokok 10 Bulan (RM5.00 x 430 pokok)- RM2150.00

3)Baja C.I.R.P (RM0.50 x 430 ketul)- RM215.00

4)Kos penanaman (RM1.00 x 430 pokok)- RM430.00

5)Sistem siraman (anggaran polypaip untuk seekar)- RM3500.00

6)Kayu penegak / buluh (RM0.50 x 430 batang)- RM215.00

JUMLAH- RM7,010.00


Anggaran Kos untuk 7 tahun Seekar Tanah


1)Kos penanaman awal- RM7,010.00

2)Pembajaan C.I.R.P (3 x 3 tahun x RM0.50 x 430 pokok)- RM1,935.00

3)Penjagaan / pembersihan kawasan (RM 200 x 7 tahun)- RM1,400.00

4)Kos suntikan/ inducement pada tahun ke - 5 (RM50 x 430 pokok)- RM21,500.00

5)Kos penebangan pokok dan kutipan hasi- RMl3,500.00

6)Lain-lain kos (pagar / jagaan dsbnya)- RM5000.00

JUMLAH- RM41,345.00


GAHARU - Anggaran Hasil

Anggaran hasil minimun RM 1,000.00 sepokok.

Seekar (430 pokok)

- 100% RM 430,000.00

- 80% RM 344,000.00

- 50% RM 215,000.00



This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 24 2007, 06:42 AM

bro, may i know where did you find those infos on the starting cost ?

From this website http://www.jasbenplantation.cjb.net/ or try this one http://www.jasbenplantation.com
There's a lot of information on gaharu in these websites. Unfortunately the website is in Malay and English version is not available.

Pricing on Agarwood

Jadual Gred di Pasaran

Buat masa ini tiada gred yang seragam dan selalunya berbeza mengikut negeri. Berikut adalah gred yang dikeluarkan oleh JPSM dalam Bengkel Penyeragaman Penggredan Gaharu di Semenanjung Malaysia pada awal bulan Jun 2007 yang lalu di Kuala Lipis Pahang.

Harga (perkilogram)/ Price (perkilogram)

Gred Super A-RM 25,000 ke atas

Gred A-RM 20,000

Gred B-RM 18,000

Gred C-RM 15,000

Gred D-RM 8,000

Gred E-RM 3,000

Lain-lain Gred-RM 500 - RM 1,000

Gred Kayu untuk Minyak-RM 5 - RM 100

Minyak Gaharu-RM 300 - RM 350/ tola (12gm)


Wow waa wee waa.......(Borat)

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 25 2007, 09:23 AM

Hello amir, saya suka dikenali sebagai wangmali............teruskan niat saudara tu untuk menanam pokok gaharu...dan saya pun baru je selesai tanam seluas 4 ekar........sekarang ade lagi tanah kosong 5 ekar dan 30 ekar. yang 5 ekar ni sya nak buka kepada pelabur yang berminat.........semuanye saya uruskan.....portion pelabur 70% k sikitami tuan tanah 30%.........

Lokasi tanaman : Daerah Kluang, Johor.

Satu lagi projek ialah 30 ekar.....saya nak buat sistem ladang...............semua pokok gaharu saya guna benih vietnam....projek 30 ekar ni saya share ngan syarikat GLC 50/50

Kalau En. Amir dan kawan2 masih ingin melabur lagi...........boleh la contact saya ........012 7997821

Hasilnya lumayan.......apa salahnye kita kongsi.......harapan saya ialah nak buktikan yang tanaman ni menguntungkan.

En. Amir tak yah dengar cakap2 negatif diaorg tu......diaorang asyik buat research je tapi belum tanam lagi....dan belum tahu teknologi terkini.....yang boleh menghasilkan resin yang berkualiti..........

Kalau di thailand...........lagi pelik............lepas 4 tahun dah ambik hasil.......suntikan vaksin memang terbukti....
Syarikat thailand ni dah lama business......bukak la web www.agarharvest.com .....

sekarang ni jabatan hutan kita pun ade hantar org kat vietnam utk study lagi.

So.....saya harap en.amir teruskan usaha tersebut dan kalau ade info2 yang baik email je kat saya azam_gx@yahoo.com .

saya pun baru je lagi

satu lagi ....en. amir ade tak proposal dan costing yang lengkap.....klu boleh bagi saya.....sebab nak wat presentation la kat.....funder................

kalau boleh kita jumpa.....lagi bagus dapat gak belajar lagi

ok........selamat maju jaya.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 2:12 pmSatu lagi en. amir.............boleh u bagi contact supllier untuk benih vietnam,baja CRIP dan Vaksin untuk suntikkan tu......saya tengok awknye murah la.................saya guna org tengah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,klu leh direct kan ke jimat kos......
nanti jumpa kita minum kopi la.........kautim,,,,,,,,,,,hehehehehe

Satu lagi contact no. en. amir

This post has been edited by wangmali: Dec 21 2007, 02:12 PM

wangmali respek bro., saya masih tunggu approval tanah di perak ni, boleh message saya no bro tak?

tkasih

very interesting form of investment

A'kum Encik Wang Mali.Saya dah lama tak check thread ni,tak sangka ada lagi.Banyak jugak pokok yang encik nak tanam.4 ekar tambah lagi 30 ekar akan datang.Saya buat masa sekarang tak start tanam lagi.Cuma beli anak pokok dan biar kat rumah.Baru ada 20 pokok dan akan tambah lagi lepas dapat gaji pertama.Pasal nak tanam kat tanah tu tak tahu bila sebab tanah masih semak,belum clear.Jadi kena upah orang bersihkan dulu dan tanah saya ada dalam 7 ekar tapi plan nak tanam dalam 4 ekar.Pasal nak tanam besar-besaran ni,nanti dulu rasanya tapi saya ada terfikir untuk meminjam tanah dari kerajaan atau menyewa dari orang lain.Tapi kalau nak tanam 30 ekar tu saya tak pasti lagi dan masih ada risikonya.Pasal baja,anak pokok dan lain2 tu,encik boleh check Jasben Plantation.Saya beli anak pokok kat sana.Baja dia 30sen seketul tapi suntikan tu saya tak tahu lagi.Harap boleh jumpa encik dan berbincang pasal gaharu.

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Added on December 26, 2007, 10:17 amBoleh tahu macam mana u apply nak dapat tanah?Dari jabatan mana nak apply?

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Dec 26 2007, 10:17 AM

amirbashah..

can we meet up...I m interested to know and get information from you about this project..

cheers!!

ontact no. saya 012-7997821 , tanah u kenapa,......u tukar syarat ke?..........saya tak...............buat je kat tanah kebun..tu...klu nak tunggu2 aprrove...........lambat la beb....

Saya pun tengah cari investor yang berminat utk tanah seluas 30 ekar.buat tanam gaharu...........sekarang ni semua sourcing i dah dapat...pasaran akan datang pun dah ade...........klu ade yang minat boleh la,

amir pun minat tu..........nanti nak jumpa dia.
k.....ade masa col la ..

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Added on December 29, 2007, 2:58 pmNanti la en. Amir kita jumpa.....klu saya naik KL boleh la....sys col u..........pasal tanah tu tak yah....pening ....saya banyak lubang di johor ni..........u cari funder je...........buatla aggreement camne dia orang nak....saya nak buktikan yang industri gaharu ni memang real dan genuine............member kita kat pahang dan kelantan tu lagi la dah lama kaya raya dah...........nasib baik kita ni sekarang ade cara teknologi baru....pakai suntikan.......

saya pakai benih vietnam........benih umur setahun.......lepas tanam 5 tahun dah bleh jadi kaya.

tanah no hal...............funder yang berminat je...nak...cari........i bleh present.....u pun leh present gak.....nanti kita jumpa...k...bye


This post has been edited by wangmali: Dec 29 2007, 02:58 PM

wangmali,

sy berminat ut berjumpa dgn tuan dan tahu lebih lanjut pasal industri ni..

kalo kat kelantan..di mana boleh sy dptkan anak pokok gaharu nih?

terima kashi

We could definitely meet up if you want to know more. I'm willing to share my knowledge to anyone who's interested.

all need info of young agarwood tree pls call or sms me at 012-2592142.


dan sesiapa yang berminat untuk menbeli anak pokok call or sms saya jugak.

This post has been edited by joe_hunt: Jan 11 2008, 04:53 PM

i'm interested to be potential partner with anyone of you. kindly let me know your current status, finance, budget, and how much expected.

thx

ok you can provide land for rent if you want to be partner then we will talk.

what kind of land? just normal suburban or.. foresty area?

hi there amirbashah, if u r organizing a gathering for those who r interested in this project, let me know anytime...just PM me or contact me @ 012-9211883...i believe if we pool all our resources here, we can definitely work on something...looking forward to ur reply...

yeah..would be great if we can meet up have a coffee and discuss about this project..

cheers!!

bila nak nak buat perjumpaan nih tak sabar nak share apa yang ada

I know where to find / buy seeds of gahary trees. u can just call me at 062021774032 or send me emails to oazfari@yahoo.com .
I'm from sumatra, and that particular tree you are searching is now very rare and only exist in the jungles of indonesia. Well, that doesnt mesn that I cant make lots of those trees.

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Added on January 14, 2008, 6:08 pmLook, if anybody wanna find some small gaharu trees, just let me know or email me at oazfari@yahoo.com

This post has been edited by ari sumatra: Jan 14 2008, 06:08 PM

oOo...

why dont we gather all the resources.. and set up a small scale industry for this..?

wenjie 86 i want land suburban can u get for me .... than we discuss about share patner because now i have 5000 seed gaharu baby trees to be plant.

This post has been edited by joe_hunt: Jan 15 2008, 09:46 AM

It is good to see that this thread is still alive and kicking!!! I will try to support everyone on the research side. As off now, there will be an assessment of the gaharu induced tree on March 2008. I will try to keep everyone updated on this.

Hi eehsitna, I haven't check this thread for quite some time. Do you have any new information which you could share with us? You're in Sabah/Sarawak right now right? I was thinking of organizing a gathering in the future. Maybe you could join us?

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Added on January 15, 2008, 11:35 amDoes anyone want to meet up? We could organize a meeting and discuss about agarwood. I'm really glad a lot of people are more interested in agarwood now. By the way, I just bought 100 more trees last month but haven't plant it at my land

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Jan 15 2008, 11:39 AM

well, i can find the land for you, it's cheap to rent those land... in johor got a lot.. and my father always got connection with those who want to sell land and rent the land.

5000 seed gaharu baby?

is seed or baby tree?

if baby tree... i suggest, plant the baby tree in the plastic bag, wait until few months only, change into a piece of land, then after that only transfer to the land wanna it to grow..

my dad use to be working in nursery .. he got knowledge about plantation.

I'm also looking for land to plant my trees. Currently I own 7 acres of land in Sungai Merab (Near Putrajaya) but I'm looking for more. Johor is quite far from my place so it's quite difficult for me to go there and monitor the tress. Does anyone know where I could find any land in Selangor? I agree with wenjie on planting the tress in plastic bag. I did the same thing. I bought the trees and replaced it in a bigger poly bag. After a few months, I will plant it on my land which I have to clear first

Yes I am in Sabah. Going to attend a meeting in FRIM end of February so we might be able to meet up then?

Ps: Do not buy the seedling and left it unattended for too long. It will stun the growth of the tree.

I'll give you my contact number so you could call me when you're here- 0123766234. Do give me your phone number as well. What do you mean by unattended? Do I have to quickly plant it on my land? Currently I replaced the seedlings in a bigger poly bag.

those land in muar.. johor cheap ^^

it's easy to get to muar, about 2 hours from KL

well, try find rural land, it's better... a lot of malay in rural got land but didn't use it.. if can get them to rent their land is the best, in the same time ask them take care

It's cheap but do they really want to rent it for 7-10 years? That's the question you have to ask.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Jan 15 2008, 12:43 PM

yeap.. i think so

it is baby tree i already plant it at polybag, this gaharu need space 6 feet from each other when u plant it to land, then can u find land at selangor and can be rent for 7 years

anywhere i can get aquilaria subintegra in (KK)sabah?

1st of all this tree don't have seed that why we need baby tree .... if u want i can supply this subintegra

how much is it?

This post has been edited by Sham903n: Feb 20 2008, 11:10 PM

Funder or Loaner Wanted;

more info is here
http://carigold.com/portal/forums/showthread.php?t=29710


cheers!!

Correction. The species does produce seeds but the seed is recalcitrant (low shelf life). That is why it is difficult to buy those seeds. Furthermore, if I am not mistaken, Aquilaria subintegra is an exotic species so you will not be able to find it in the forest.

Ps: By the way, I am going over to KL for a meeting on the 26th to 29th February. Anyone interested to meet up for a chat? I will be staying in the Setapak area.

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Added on February 21, 2008, 9:43 amI thought I answer this before but I might as well repeat myself.

Try not to keep it in the polybag for too long. The best time to plant it is when the seedling is around 6 month old and around 2 feet tall. I kept some seedlings for around more than a year in the polybag and the root was growing out of the polybag. In my observation, those overgrown seedlings show signs of stunted growth.

This post has been edited by eehtsitna: Feb 21 2008, 09:59 AM

PM me your number-- maybe we can have a coffee chat..



This post has been edited by Sham903n: Feb 23 2008, 11:04 PM

pls contact me 0122438420 for coffee chat.

thanks..

anyone know where i can buy the agarwood seed/baby tree?
and does anyone know roughly how much the cost per tree or seed?

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Added on March 23, 2008, 4:47 pmanyone know?

This post has been edited by lthock: Mar 23 2008, 04:47 PM

Hi eehtsitna,
any news and whats the results of the test done by Sabah Forest Dept on the inoculation by Professor Robert Blanchette?

TS, I have a 12 acre land in perak.....plain area, can plant it?

yes sure you can plant it.

start NOW!!

and also build contact with all 'agarwood farmer'(penanam gaharu/karas)

thanks

but the thing is I'm living in KL and even if I plant the trees, who's going to manage them? I'm sick of being cheated

No need to take care of the trees.Just plant the trees and leave them for a few years. You only need to put fertilizer twice a year. But make sure the area is fenced so people won't steal them. I usually buy the trees for RM5 per tree. Quite cheap if compared to other sellers.

sounds interesting... this tree suitable on wat type of soil?
might consider to join since my friend got abandoned land about 10acres at mlk.
how much is the estimated initial investment amount?

Check my previous post.

now still can get RM5 for tree ? because lot of sellers sell at more than that price

mind telling me which part in perak?

Hey guys! I would like to propose a joint venture project to anyone who is interested and has already planted their karas/agarwood tree. My friend and I are currently searching for the best inoculation technique in the international market. Once we have identify the best technique, we will bring it into Malaysia.

In a nutshell, what we will propose is that you will be incharge of planting those karas/agarwood tree and later on my friend and I will come in to inoculate those tree for you. Later after that, we will split the profit among ourself based on our agreement. If you are interested with it, please pm me your detail such as:

Your full name:
Contact number:
Number of karas tree you have:
Age of the tree:
The location of your plantation:

Remember, this is not the final proposal. We still have to work out all the detail. If you are really interested, we might have to find a day and discuss this face to face.


Early sign of gaharu resin formation. 1 year after inoculation.

This post has been edited by eehtsitna: Apr 15 2008, 09:27 AM

Kampung Gajah.......between ipoh and teluk intan

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Added on April 16, 2008, 5:31 pmI didn't know there are different inoculation techniques and the result will differs. Seems interesting. Please keep us updated

Just now, I met with one of the managar at Malaysian Herbal Corporation and he said Mardi has found a serum that can produce karas much faster than inoculaton technique in the market. It takes only a few months rather than 2 years.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Apr 16 2008, 05:32 PM

Inoculation is process to shorted mature period for agarwood/gaharu. This technique coming from thailand and between inducement person who inject agarwood tree have own reason. Some of them make spiral inoculant by 4 in distance beetween every inducement. Without inoculation gaharu resin need 20-100 year will produce. Most agarwood tree will do inoculation at year 5 and the will cut the tree at year 6 and can sell RM1000 for every one. If you wand to sell wood RM20/kilogram and to produce perfume RM800 pertola and mostly faound 8-10 tola(12gram) for more info please visit www.dapat.net/agrotechsupplyandservices

thats good.

thanks for link.

I involed in agarwood 1.5 year,before that we hear thar agarwood can growth at asia rainforest. My nieghbour was involved to agarwood plantation have 2 milion child of agarwood in Laos. With him i get more info abaout agarwood. And now he was build agarwood factory in Thailand that have 136 steam equipment to produce accence/resin od perfume oil, and who have 1000 agarwood tree confirm millionare . My costing if you sell a wood tree after inoculation yo found RM855,000 and RM6.2 Million if you produce perfume oil. For time being i just sell child of agarwood with minumum order (10 pcs) arround puchong and gombak with consultation how to plant gaharu/agarwood. Makesure that you know type of spesis . In malaysia famous with sub integra-oil RM >RM50K/Kg,Crassna -oil > RM30K per/kg and malacencess-oil > RM10K/kg. Only Sub integra and crassna coming from out site (kemboja/thai) 6-7 year can sell,malacencces is local specis and longer to produce oil 7-8 year

My friend already started 2 year ago 33 acres with sub integra from Thailand, Im plainning for 17 acre, im just wondering if I can do cloning with his trees via cuttings. Any comments or ideas?

where is your friend and you are located?

Thanks

Just planted a tree at my land. Finally. But just one tree, my land is like a forest. Still 'semak'. Anyone could give me contacts of people who can clear my land?

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Apr 21 2008, 08:21 AM

Yup there are a variety of inoculation techniques out there and as usual, everyone claims that their technique is the best without any results to back them up. My advice to everyone is to make sure that you have some rough idea what those techniques are and how they work before you purchase any. Alot of people takes this opportunity to sell fake inoculation techniques just to make some quick bucks.

Another thing that everyone needs to remember is that do not overestimate your profit margin. Make sure that your margin is "logical" so you will not screw up with your financial management.

Regarding vegetative propogation (cutting), it can be done but if i am not mistaken, the mortality rate is high among seedlings propogated this way. Another important point is that, seedlings propogated through this technique usually does not have a nice tree stand. Meaning that they are usually not straight and they tend to have a lot of branches.

Hei eehtsitna, when can we meet up? You didn't call me the last time you're in KL

My recent trip in KL was short so i wasnt able to meet with anyone. Sorry about that. I am planning to go to KL again around June so perhaps we can now make some planning to meet up? We can all sit down and chat over a cup of coffee.