Aiyo you obviously don't get the point on non existent regulation or licensing.

You think landslide only can occur here? What about the rest of the Kinabatangan Range?
Not the only time landslide occur on this mountain.

Already 5 pages... no one write ask Nga Kor Ming come out and explain what type of permit required by the operators....

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/12/...icence-says-nga

Already 5 pages... no one write ask Nga Kor Ming come out and explain what type of permit required by the operators....

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/12/...icence-says-nga

non existence of laws?

take penal code for example, cause the death of other due to negligence

HSE act, due diligent of site owner to demonstrate they have done all reasonable mitigation to protect safety of its visitor

need more?

Why don't commit suicide?
Since don't die also no use already, life is ruined.
Now have to insult the living some more.

If Japanese or Korean sure already commit suicide.
Why don't go and die, is Chinese always thinking this selfish?

non existence of laws?

take penal code for example, cause the death of other due to negligence

HSE act, due diligent of site owner to demonstrate they have done all reasonable mitigation to protect safety of its visitor

need more?

Aiyo, why you write so long? Just one word, tort. And not restricted to one party.

Let the concern do the needful.
Argument goes bothways, let it be a review then at the right avenue.

if you are operating it for commercial purpose, you are bound to have duty of care for your customers.

the biggest downfall of this incident is the hill erosion pictured on internet too obvious to ignore.

yes the owner is regretful, does not wish harm etc. but still "duty of care" is the core of any service businesses, and failure to fulfill the obligation could harm the safety of client, and in this case, life lost.
after all it's consensual use of service, but owner side still hold the guilt of not taking precaution of the "obvious" land erosion. i do not wish jail penalty etc towards the owner, but hope he/she will compensate well for the family of this incident, by compensate i dont mean 10k, i mean at least 500k per person.

Authorities no due diligence ok je.
Operator no due diligence need to crucify them.

This is what I understand from your replies so far. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Why other industries regulated by authorities but camping allowed to be self-regulating? Especially in disaster prone areas during periods of increased probability for disaster.

I think he got explain this pic as well, its not erosion, they are developing "terrace farm", and its on the opposite side of the landslide

mean removing tree will deep root and replace with whatever plant they want to plant?

if you are operating it for commercial purpose, you are bound to have duty of care for your customers.

the biggest downfall of this incident is the hill erosion pictured on internet too obvious to ignore.

yes the owner is regretful, does not wish harm etc. but still "duty of care" is the core of any service businesses, and failure to fulfill the obligation could harm the safety of client, and in this case, life lost.
after all it's consensual use of service, but owner side still hold the guilt of not taking precaution of the "obvious" land erosion. i do not wish jail penalty etc towards the owner, but hope he/she will compensate well for the family of this incident, by compensate i dont mean 10k, i mean at least 500k per person.

yes, its a farm, what you expect?

FYI HSE act is actually self regulating laws

you need demonstrate to DOSH you had done all reasonable precaution

on gov side, how you approve a resort on a farm land?

is this fairy tales?

I do get self-regulating laws. But some laws have the extra regulation from authorities due higher risk to human lives. IMO hillside camping activities shouldn't be just self-regulating due to this higher risk.
It is well known Genting mountain is being heavily developed, increasing the risk of landslides over time.

Also what's to ensure they are self-regulating instead of ignoring said laws? Checks after disaster defeats the purpose entirely.

do you realize that is what cause landslide in most scenario?

Already 5 pages... no one write ask Nga Kor Ming come out and explain what type of permit required by the operators....

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/12/...icence-says-nga

another FYI

ignorance of law isn't a defense when you are being charged under the said law

terrace farming used by human over hundreds of years, in many cases it helped in controlling soil erosion rather than causing landslide
and if their word can be believed, its not the cause this time since its on opposite side of the landslide