As I said
We will come to that
Else you’ll see my “dust”

Even if you quoted all Bible translations
Which says the same
1.) there are two groups of people mentioned
2.) your illogical reading of the Bible ;eg, ignoring entire Ephesians and all the other letters cos it’s not for you

And You have yet to still answer

My guess is you have stopped going to church
And have no pastor
If so, please reflect on yourself

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 5 2024, 07:27 PM

Like I said, you need a pastor and you need to go to church because you cant even read and interpret the simplest bible verse..


KJV
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Original language of Ephesians 1:1
Παῦλος ἀπόστολος Χριστοῦ Ἰησοῦ διὰ θελήματος θεοῦ τοῖς ἁγίοις τοῖς οὖσιν ἐν Ἐφέσῳ [B]καὶ [/B]πιστοῖς ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ

Kai means????
conjunction that typically means "and" or "also." It is used to connect words, phrases, or clauses, similar to its English equivalents.

you use whatever translation , the original bible says so..

see how delusional you are?

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 5 2024, 10:58 PM

i would suggest you DM me, as this has become more of a personal conversation than a public one.. unless there are people who are interested.. else Its a bad testimony.. and we should not be a part of it..

Thanks for admitting what i said...
Evidently your faith (on James, the above etc) is clear..
This no longer is a public discussion but a private one
And as I suggested.. feel free to move to PM than here.. unless you have different malicious intentions

That's by default so..
Ephesians 2:19 is clear what saved christians are.
"Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;"

but its okay ...
by now its evident what we are dealing with based on the consistent behavior and trend..

Good learnings and exposure of what is in the world today and their personal perspectives.. ..
but let's not allow the devil to takeover this thread , and rightly as other fellow Christians hinted, to keep this more beneficial for the public..

its to discuss and debate on bible verses on a public level than to tackle personal faith issues..

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 11:12 AM

I'm very sure my replies have been nothing but direct and from the Bible.. but unfortunately, to my surprise it has taken too long too far for simple comprehension of the Bible and I see why.. There's nothing to hide and i have been consistent.

I have no malicious intents but to be reminded we have a testimony to live.

Matthew 18:15-17," Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."

And I remind you to be mindful as well..

and more importantly, to not abuse this platform and be a stumbling block to those who wants to learn, not see vain babblings

I've PM you out of good gesture to explain.. i would advise you to take it from there..

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 11:22 AM

As I have said, please continue the discussion at Private Message.
This no longer a biblical discussion but has became a more fundamental issue of comprehension and faith.

And if you are as responsive here, as you should be at the PM; in defending your understanding, there should be nothing you are afraid of.. unless only for other unknown malice intentions

We can continue on how lost you are there. TQ

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 12:42 PM

Mate, why avoid the Bible ?
Tackle one thing at a time.. lets start with your faith and comprehension.
Please reply at PM
TQ

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 01:47 PM

Good you realized you're a bit heated and cant focus on issues at hand.
Let's look into those issues in a structured manner
1. Sheep
2. Ephesians
3. Bible Interpretation

Again I say, unless you have malice intentions, lets not spam this thread with your nonsense..
and resolve them at Private Message first..
I've sent you two PMs now.. please reply

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 02:25 PM

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i will reply, lets continue at PM...

like i said, this no longer is a public discussion...but an entirely different matter...for obvious reasons
Again, for the third time.. stay focus and dont smoke bomb your way..

i've started the PM to kickstart your confusion.. stop avoiding the truth.. and reply the PM

Any deviance from that only goes to prove your true malicious intentions in this thread..
to just seek attention and babble nonsense.. not even trying to debate or discuss on biblical grounds..

I've spent almost a week with you.. now.. let's tackle the root cause..

Reply the PM.. its simple..

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 03:03 PM

[quote=lurkingaround,Aug 6 2024, 02:42 PM]
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Also, why you no reply to my post,?, .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110204718


I've replied 3 messages to your confusion.. please REPLY..
Don't hide away from the truth.
As strongly as you defend your imagination here, please feel free to continue at Private Message.

Until we can resolve that, there's no substance that carries weight.

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 6 2024, 03:21 PM

Thank you for promoting the replacement of this thread.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5474042

For those who enjoy sound doctrinal Bible discussions, please feel free to chime in the new thread link.
This thread unfortunately is not maintained by the TS who left.

I welcome all discussions, including lost ones like you throughout the last week.
unfortunately, you dont read well or reply accordingly.

Feel free to join in the thread I created.
And as mentioned, due to lack of regulation from the TS here, we see more trolling posts that has nothing to build Christian faith..
That is trolling for me.. (not sure what your trolling is; because you have reading and comprehension issues)

and ..
I've replied 3 messages to your confusion.. please REPLY..
Don't hide away from the truth.
As strongly as you defend your imagination here, please feel free to continue at Private Message.

and in your case, as i said, unless your intentions are to build on the truth, you would have clarified it..
unfortunately, its evident that's not your intentions here.
you pick and reply, and you ignore when you cant.
and more importantly, you dont even care what testimony you set for non-christians or christians reading here.
So if i were to be blunt, you are merely seeking attention and not the truth from the Bible.. and to make things worse.. you throw in mixed truth with imaginations ..
so i would advice you to please reflect and repent.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 7 2024, 05:05 PM

Its a Christian thread for biblical discussions.
As I said, this thread has a lot of trolls coming in from people like yourself, and others which has no intention of finding out about biblical truth..

but rather just to troll and insinuate hatred..

Unfortunately this thread, if it still allow people as such, would serve no benefit to those who really want to discuss about the Bible..

I'm very sure even lurkingaround would agree, that it is suppose to be for Bible discussions and not for those who just wants to make fun of Christianity..

I'll be surprise if he disagrees.. as it would just reflect his importance of a Christian testimony.. and the intentions to post or discuss bible verses here..

:-)

and as to this Avangelice person... Behind every word, the mind's intentions silently reside..

Christianity is a PERSONAL journey.. a PERSONAL relationship with you and God.. the fact you already hate or despise it to begin with.. no one can help you but yourself.

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 7 2024, 05:55 PM

The fact that despite all the 'reports' ,

no action was taken.. has proven my point..

:-)

Thank you and have a nice day

:-)
Your lost..
Bye

Now you see what I mean?
A bad testimony in a thread that's not regulated despite valid reports.. to people that make fun of the Bible and start twisting and turning the truth?

Thank God examples come in quick and without me explaining..



This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 7 2024, 06:04 PM

I'm still here in the event there's any requirements. And I've told Lurkingaround to bring it to PM as it seems repetitive in his comprehension and the problem is his understanding of the BIBLE itself.. I've sent him 3 PMs out of good gesture, none that was replied.
That is still fine as it is afterall still BIBLE related.. It is just logical and reasonable to not humiliate him in public.. but its his choice afterall... I had no intentions of removing chats of such.. because those are examples of how lost some christians can be in reading the Bible.. its good examples..

But as to those few who started criticizing the Bible and the FAITH itself.. That's an entirely different matter.
as a Christian.. it's quite clear what to do..
And these are the posts that should not belong in here... as it serves no purpose..

The Bible are ancient text passed down orally or by writing from older days.. it is a result of a long and complex process involving multiple authors..
At its worse, you could call it a History book..

But those who want to ridicule the Bible and its contents, no one is forcing you to believe it..
Christians believe, end of the day, everyone answers for themselves..
And our job, is NOT to convince you to believe in the Bible..
Our job is just to tell you about it.. and thats the end of it..
So if you have decided NOT to believe in God, good.. be gone.. that's your choice..

Whichever CHRISTIAN that starts insisting and forcing you to say OH YOU MUST BELIEVE IN GOD!, that's just them not know the Bible enough..

This thread has a TS which ignorantly has left it unattended.
hence the emergence of various irrelevancy.

The world has various RELIGIONS that originates from their respective myths or stories or histories..
You either believe there IS a God or there ISN'T a God..
And from there, you make a choice if its supernatural or science..

For anyone to dispute that the miracles in the Bible are fake, either an atheist who believes its just science.. or just a trouble maker who believes in his version of God with HIS OWN VERSION of the supernatural stories.. so why the hypocrisies?

And if we already know its of such intentions, why then even bother responding?

The Bible is clear enough to address such people and what Christians SHOULD Do..

This post has been edited by zanness: Aug 10 2024, 06:25 PM

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Its flattering to have someone follow my updates.. but when you call someone ignorant, do get your facts right..
Not surprising, as usual, you put in false accusations and instead of focusing on the right things (eg. the Biblical doctrines, clarifying your Biblical understanding, and so much more.. ), you have focused on me opening and closing threads.. and even that you fail to grasp the one important thing I even bother replying to your imaginary biblical understanding.. which is for the edifying of other Christians' faith..

Instead, you let your pride of not wanting to be WRONG even though you are, chase me around multiple threads and not addressing the main point..

As I said, I have come to understand your confusion requires more private discussion to save you humiliation.. but unfortunately, even after 3 PMs.. you decided to ignore.. now.. THATS.. IGNORANCE..