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post Feb 1 2008, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(james83 @ Feb 1 2008, 07:14 PM)
as long as there's the name "GUNDAM " is used, it's subject to comparisons.

i tot some one already make this point clear b4, so guys, just WTF is wrong with comparing?
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comparing = discussion. end of story.

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Discussion = comparing? ROFL gimme a break!

I'm not even saying that 00 is ZOMGITSTEHBOMBWOW. I have issues about it as well, and I'm more than happy to voice it out (you can check a few posts in this thread if you like). I just dont get how some people automatically compare it to UC and say things like "Oh but you wont find this in <insert UC series Gundam of choice here> cause it r h4x CE and AD can go dai lol".

I mean, it's like...yeah we get the picture, you guys are fanboys of UC and probably fap daily to pictures of Char and Amuro. Just dont bring in the fanboyism to the discussions, cause trust me, it's NOT a discussion.

And whoa...attacking me personally just because I'm telling the fanboys off? Wow...argumentum ad hominem is alive and kicking! whistling.gif
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Stopped watching 00 since Nadhaleeh was revealed. Just cant stand those hairs/wires on a Gundam.
However i am no hardcore fans of the Gundam series, watch SEED, Destiny and i am ok with it.
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Feb 1 2008, 07:46 PM)
Long time didnt visit this thread.
Stopped watching 00 since Nadhaleeh was revealed. Just cant stand those hairs/wires on a Gundam.
However i am no hardcore fans of the Gundam series, watch SEED, Destiny and i am ok with it.
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Exactly! Different people have different opinions, and I dont mind if you dislike Gundam 00 and discuss about it in a mature manner. I'm just asking why oh why must there be comparions made?

If you think Seed had GODLIKE characters, then just say it and be done with it! If you think the Thrones are Bandai's excuse for milking more money from gunpla-ers, then just say it and be done with it! Why must there be an additional comment somehow linking it to the UC metaverse when CLEARLY they are both different and unique in their own ways? Not only does it bring out the fanboy in you, but obviously there will be hostilities exchanged when fanboys go up against each other. Why must this happen and everyone ends up forming camps and start flinging shit at each other?

*Facepalm*

[edit] My post is directed at fanboys, not Virgil. Need to clarify in case Virgil goes "wth why me". laugh.gif

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post Feb 1 2008, 08:40 PM

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DIE DIE DIE ALL YOU f***ING NEWTYPES AND COORDINATORS!!!!!










































I'm sorry... i just couldn't resist since you guys kept fighting.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Feb 1 2008, 08:40 PM)
DIE DIE DIE ALL YOU f***ING NEWTYPES AND COORDINATORS!!!!!
I'm sorry... i just couldn't resist since you guys kept fighting.
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 1 2008, 05:52 PM)
Oh wow, seems like I stepped on someone's toes whistling.gif

Btw, I have no problems if you were actually DISCUSSING, but seems to me that it's more like a slingfest in here. My question is, do you know the difference between discussing and dissing?

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Woot.. What we need now.. A Grammer Nazi..

.. Well you just hijack the thread so you can tell us How the direction of the thread should flow?? Well I don't see anyone complaining other than you..

Why dont you share us your so call point of view of what makes Gundam 00 so great then?? Dont give me than Iam mature enough to deal with fanboys.. What the matther cant think of something revelant to say??

If you have nothing to contribute about the Gundam universe then leave.. and stop posting your so called noble mature POV about Gundam.

They will always be faction and sides for everything.. So let us be..

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Feb 1 2008, 10:47 PM)
Woot.. What we need now.. A Grammer Nazi..

.. Well you just hijack the thread so you can tell us How the direction of the thread should flow?? Well I don't see anyone complaining other than you..

Why dont you share us your so call point of view of what makes Gundam 00 so great then?? Dont give me than Iam mature enough to deal with fanboys.. What the matther cant think of something revelant to say??

If you have nothing to contribute about the Gundam universe then leave.. and stop posting your so called noble mature POV about Gundam.

They will always be faction and sides for everything.. So let us be..
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Haiyooo....you still dont gettit issit? When did I say 00 was great ler? All I'm asking for is that people discuss things in a mature way, not like immature fanboys who like shoving opinions down the throats of others (be it UC or CE).

Oh, and I think if you look hard enough, you'll find that I'm not the only one who shares the same opinion. But I guess you're too elitist for that, aye? wink.gif
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WOI! You guys please take to arguing over PM and leave us in peace?


Or i shotted you down with my Jet Stream Attack and block your hax with my GN Particles.
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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Feb 1 2008, 11:07 PM)
WOI! You guys please take to arguing over PM and leave us in peace?
Or i shotted you down with my Jet Stream Attack and block your hax with my GN Particles.
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You cant get through my h4x Plot Armor though. brows.gif

Ok lar...I've said my piece. Whatever happens from now, well, at least I can say I tried. Sigh.


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post Feb 1 2008, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Feb 1 2008, 06:26 PM)
My papa better than yours papa.  nod.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif

I bring my papa fight your papa!

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My daddy's car is larger than yours.

No, my daddy's house is bigger than yours.

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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 1 2008, 08:03 PM)
Exactly! Different people have different opinions, and I dont mind if you dislike Gundam 00 and discuss about it in a mature manner. I'm just asking why oh why must there be comparions made?

If you think Seed had GODLIKE characters, then just say it and be done with it! If you think the Thrones are Bandai's excuse for milking more money from gunpla-ers, then just say it and be done with it! Why must there be an additional comment somehow linking it to the UC metaverse when CLEARLY they are both different and unique in their own ways? Not only does it bring out the fanboy in you, but obviously there will be hostilities exchanged when fanboys go up against each other. Why must this happen and everyone ends up forming camps and start flinging shit at each other?

*Facepalm*

[edit] My post is directed at fanboys, not Virgil. Need to clarify in case Virgil goes "wth why me". laugh.gif
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I've always posted with facts and welcome any discussion, be it UC or AU as long as it's Gundam related.

I don't see any reason NOT to bring in UC characters, or even AUs like GW, GX etc for comparison with 00 as long as we support it with facts. It's like talking cars eg talking about Toyota and forbidding people to talk about various models of Toyota.

While I get your point about fanboyism, you should understand that which set of fans, traditional ones or newly CE/00 converts, that always post oneliners or your so called fanboyist posts. I don't mind people posting stuff like "I like (insert name)" but at least state the reason and some further elaboration.

Until new Gundam fans post this way, I don't think traditional fans would stop the bashing.

And you DO know that this will continue to happen as those "new" fans will post meaningless crap, so why bother?

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a GM Sniper can pr4wn any gundam

traditional fans are old tards that grew up in the 80s.
while the newer gundam fans are the newborn tards, that only saw gundam for the first time.

what should we call this? the tomino gap? since tomino got fired from gundam...
the i-field-beam-bending trap?

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 1 2008, 11:26 PM)
My daddy's car is larger than yours.

No, my daddy's house is bigger than yours.

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I've always posted with facts and welcome any discussion, be it UC or AU as long as it's Gundam related.

I don't see any reason NOT to bring in UC characters, or even AUs like GW, GX etc for comparison with 00 as long as we support it with facts. It's like talking cars eg talking about Toyota and forbidding people to talk about various models of Toyota.

While I get your point about fanboyism, you should understand that which set of fans, traditional ones or newly CE/00 converts, that always post oneliners or your so called fanboyist posts. I don't mind people posting stuff like "I like (insert name)" but at least state the reason and some further elaboration.

Until new Gundam fans post this way, I don't think traditional fans would stop the bashing.

And you DO know that this will continue to happen as those "new" fans will post meaningless crap, so why bother?
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Well yeah, I do admit that some of the posters like to post one liners, but I guess both sides have their own share of people like this. I suppose the best that the rest of us can do is to try our best not to provoke each other even more until it ends up like a flamefest.

I have absolutely no problems at all with the way you post. Now if only you can rub off some of you onto the others lol.

Btw, just to prove that a decent (well, almost lol) discussion IS possible without comparisons, take a look at a thread from /m/ (you probably need IE7 for this).

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post Feb 2 2008, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 1 2008, 11:30 PM)
Well yeah, I do admit that some of the posters like to post one liners, but I guess both sides have their own share of people like this. I suppose the best that the rest of us can do is to try our best not to provoke each other even more until it ends up like a flamefest.

I have absolutely no problems at all with the way you post. Now if only you can rub off some of you onto the others lol.

Btw, just to prove that a decent (well, almost lol) discussion IS possible without comparisons, take a look at a thread from /m/ (you probably need IE7 for this).
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I might be wrong, but it seems sometimes you do get worked up by the so called bashing of 00 because you do like that series.

We do have good 00 discussions by those who watch it, it's just that a lot of traditional UC fans can't accept it that's why the discussions don't expand into a big scale. Traditional fans do have more Gundam knowledge for lengthy discusssions because they truly appreciate the entire Gundam/UC universe, not that I'm boasting, but it's true in most forums.

To have a good 00 discussion, those here who are watching it must take the initiative to do so.
There are so much to talk about in that series, like the mecha designs, character development and background, storyline and plot, settings, or if anyone is interested, the entire cinematography and choreography of the anime.

I don't watch 00, so I ain't gonna start. Let's hope someone does.
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Feb 1 2008, 10:47 PM)
Woot.. What we need now.. A Grammer Nazi..

.. Well you just hijack the thread so you can tell us How the direction of the thread should flow?? Well I don't see anyone complaining other than you..

Why dont you share us your so call point of view of what makes Gundam 00 so great then?? Dont give me than Iam mature enough to deal with fanboys.. What the matther cant think of something revelant to say??

If you have nothing to contribute about the Gundam universe then leave.. and stop posting your so called noble mature POV about Gundam.

They will always be faction and sides for everything.. So let us be..
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i could get some complaints out about it, but i chose not to. cuz as the mod dude said, fanbois vs fanbois shit tossing is just pointless and ugly.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 2 2008, 12:16 AM)
I might be wrong, but it seems sometimes you do get worked up by the so called bashing of 00 because you do like that series.

We do have good 00 discussions by those who watch it, it's just that a lot of traditional UC fans can't accept it that's why the discussions don't expand into a big scale. Traditional fans do have more Gundam knowledge for lengthy discusssions because they truly appreciate the entire Gundam/UC universe, not that I'm boasting, but it's true in most forums.

To have a good 00 discussion, those here who are watching it must take the initiative to do so.
There are so much to talk about in that series, like the mecha designs, character development and background, storyline and plot, settings, or if anyone is interested, the entire cinematography and choreography of the anime.

I don't watch 00, so I ain't gonna start. Let's hope someone does.
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I do like the series, but not because I'm particular about one metaverse, but because I grew up loving Gundams in general.

I did attempt to post constructive comments about 00, but seems like everytime I do, I dont get replies (lol), which is why threads like /m/ are nice to browse through. Oh how I wish the discussions could be like that of that attachment I gave earlier. T_T
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 2 2008, 12:16 AM)
I might be wrong, but it seems sometimes you do get worked up by the so called bashing of 00 because you do like that series.

We do have good 00 discussions by those who watch it, it's just that a lot of traditional UC fans can't accept it that's why the discussions don't expand into a big scale. Traditional fans do have more Gundam knowledge for lengthy discusssions because they truly appreciate the entire Gundam/UC universe, not that I'm boasting, but it's true in most forums.

To have a good 00 discussion, those here who are watching it must take the initiative to do so.
There are so much to talk about in that series, like the mecha designs, character development and background, storyline and plot, settings, or if anyone is interested, the entire cinematography and choreography of the anime.

I don't watch 00, so I ain't gonna start. Let's hope someone does.
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i would but totally given up on it with all the downpouring of gundam 00 from the traditional fans. my posts were around the 85-90 ish pages, then its no more smile.gif
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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 1 2008, 11:30 PM)
Well yeah, I do admit that some of the posters like to post one liners, but I guess both sides have their own share of people like this. I suppose the best that the rest of us can do is to try our best not to provoke each other even more until it ends up like a flamefest.

I have absolutely no problems at all with the way you post. Now if only you can rub off some of you onto the others lol.

Btw, just to prove that a decent (well, almost lol) discussion IS possible without comparisons, take a look at a thread from /m/ (you probably need IE7 for this).
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If you dont want to provoke people then why bother even making the statement in the first place??.. Why come in and hijack the damm thread..

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i could get some complaints out about it, but i chose not to. cuz as the mod dude said, fanbois vs fanbois shit tossing is just pointless and ugly.


What the matter to scare that you will be bash apart for making poor examples to prove your points??

Alright since you bring up fanboys vs fanboys.. Its those usually those new gundam fans that drops in and make retarded remarks of their favorite chara that everyone hate..

So unless they drop in with some constructive reason to prove their point. bashing will be inevitable.

jhcj.. Iam suspecting you are trolling now.. This aint the first time you making this comment..
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lol.. how absurd is this.. this is a free forum.. anyone can post anything that's relevant to the topic, there's no specific fashion or rules relating to posting do we?

now someone goes jeebus and tells us how to post?

jhcj, if ur post is interesting enough, i'm pretty sure there'll be someone reply to it, so no worries, and don't make things more complicated; it's pretty darn simple actually: u hate ppl comparing present series to UC in some "elitist" way, thus hindering them from doing it, when in fact this is (one of the way of) how knowledge abt Gundam is shared, from those who had been there (from the 80's?) to the present generation of Gundam lovers..

Quazacolt, even if there really are fanbois dissing sh*t in this thread (is there?), at least they're not whining abt how they given up posting. main purpose of forums is to have ppl with the same passion discuss abt things of interest, & ur postings gain 0 points to the cause, to put it frankly. let it go, think of some stuff abt Gundam, and post sth relevant here. we'll welcome it if it's good. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Feb 2 2008, 02:03 AM)
If you dont want to provoke people then why bother even making the statement in the first place??.. Why come in and hijack the damm thread..
What the matter to scare that you will be bash apart for making poor examples to prove your points??

Alright since you bring up fanboys vs fanboys.. Its those usually those new gundam fans that drops in and make retarded remarks of their favorite chara that everyone hate..

So unless they drop in with some constructive reason to prove their point. bashing will be inevitable.

jhcj.. Iam suspecting you are trolling now.. This aint the first time you making this comment..
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first thing first, i definately wont be scare to put up with an argument or join in the shit tossing fest so long i find it beneficial one way or another. i mean hell, i did have the whole warning tag on my account now do i?

well here you go:
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new gundam fans that drops in and make retarded remarks of their favorite chara that everyone hate..


what there to discuss when someone already put up this fanboi wall. i mean, ill put it back in your shoes, lets just say, gundam 00 is the old gundam, you are the new gundam fan which is gundam uc or w/e gundam it is. you like your gundam uc characters, the old fan love their gundam 00 characters. now apparently according to you, EVERYONE hates the uc character and love the the gundam 00 characters.

get the drift? really, its just pointless to go overly fanboi bout things. i mean yea, some fanboism doesnt hurt, it just shows your passion of the series, no harm in that. but if you havent noticed, things have gone just way too far. at least imho.

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So unless they drop in with some constructive reason to prove their point. bashing will be inevitable.

see, i CANT find some constructive reason or methods to prove one point on... lol which gundam character is more favorable? lolwut?

ill try my best effort:
TRAP TEIRIA IS MORE MANLY THAN CHAR BECAUSE HIS EYES GLOWED IN ONE EPISODE. ok, nvm, it was full of fail. but i hope you get the point from this.


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QUOTE(james83 @ Feb 2 2008, 02:33 AM)
lol.. how absurd is this.. this is a free forum.. anyone can post anything that's relevant to the topic, there's no specific fashion or rules relating to posting do we?

now someone goes jeebus and tells us how to post?

jhcj, if ur post is interesting enough, i'm pretty sure there'll be someone reply to it, so no worries, and don't make things more complicated; it's pretty darn simple actually: u hate ppl comparing present series to UC in some "elitist" way, thus hindering them from doing it, when in fact this is (one of the way of) how knowledge abt Gundam is shared, from those who had been there (from the 80's?) to the present generation of Gundam lovers..

Quazacolt, even if there really are fanbois dissing sh*t in this thread (is there?), at least they're not whining abt how they given up posting. main purpose of forums is to have ppl with the same passion discuss abt things of interest, & ur postings gain 0 points to the cause, to put it frankly. let it go, think of some stuff abt Gundam, and post sth relevant here. we'll welcome it if it's good. notworthy.gif
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yes it is absurd, and yes you can pretty much post w/e you want so long its within the forum/sub-forum rules.

but seriously though, i personally dont think jhcj is telling us how to friggin post in a forum. if anything, people are just being OVERLY defensive bout shit. i mean, he is a mod, if he REALLY wants to be a nazi and get people to post however he see fits, im sure he could probably do it. but even when people are putting up their fanboi wall and bashing his face with it, he just takes it like that. surely he isnt hindering anyone from doing anything imho.

bout your comment to me, lets put it this way, when any sort of new gundam comments were posted, (eg: 00/seed/wing etc) and having some attempts to gather some discussions about it, it just gets shot down immediately. sure, we can ignore those posts, but eventually it gets annoying. i mean if you look back at the posts ive made, im pretty sure it has something or another to do with gundam 00, and if you ask me, quite frankly, i think your just being yet another elitist oldtype gundam fanboi that really didnt give a shit bout the new gundam 00. (lol see what fanboism just did to me D:) but anyways, going on with this is just pointless. i guess ill drop it right here.

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Sigh Quazacolt, you just can't win with the fanboys. Let them be ler. We'll post when we have things to say about the series, and TRY our best to ignore their taunts lor...what to do. This is why we can't have nice things

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