
Here are my hoglets... 1 months old edi
May i know when the hoglet's tooth will mature ?
P/S: Sorry for the low quality picts
This post has been edited by climacool: Oct 27 2007, 11:02 PM
Hedgehog Corner V4, Cuter than durians!
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Oct 27 2007, 11:00 PM
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Oct 28 2007, 01:02 AM
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climacool nice picture man... Is it they don't scare you and not alert when u walk close?
Last time my Bo Chai is like that, althought i play with him so long time but after become bigger, and he more stay alert ... |
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Oct 28 2007, 02:04 AM
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Oct 28 2007, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 28 2007, 01:02 AM) climacool nice picture man... Is it they don't scare you and not alert when u walk close? They don't scared at me when i walk closer. I hold and play with them everyday Last time my Bo Chai is like that, althought i play with him so long time but after become bigger, and he more stay alert ... Even now your Bo Chai still like that ?? QUOTE(neo(tm) @ Oct 28 2007, 02:04 AM) QUOTE(toottut89 @ Oct 28 2007, 03:52 AM) Thank you |
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Oct 28 2007, 11:56 AM
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Hahah... cute cute. They got teeth already.... just that when you introduce solid food to them, you must soak in water first so they get used to it. At about 6 old you can give the kibbles without soaking.
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Oct 28 2007, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 28 2007, 11:07 AM) They don't scared at me when i walk closer. I hold and play with them everyday Ya my Bo Chai still like that , walk close will alert Even now your Bo Chai still like that ?? But when bathing, hehe I'm the real master there. Or if midnight Bo Chai coming out having fun, i can touch him and he won't alert but just sometime |
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Oct 29 2007, 01:15 AM
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that day i notice there's some blood stains on the wheel together with the poo stains
after checking i think one foot of my hedgie's hind legs was bleeding but for one day only, now ok already... but she's not eating...eats very little since after quilling...now eat even lesser.. i wonder is anything wrong with the kibbles or something's wrong with the hedgie? |
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Oct 29 2007, 12:01 PM
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Hi,
I've tried searching for some info regarding Orijen & Acana feeding to hedgies in this forum(and prev), but can't seem to find what I need to know I just want to know that between Orijen and Acana, which one is better? Both are similar to having fresh meats & vege contents, but if not mistaken something in the percentage of something is different(I can't remember Can someone help me out? Owh, and since Acana has separate ones for kitten & cat, which one is better to be used? Thanks! KP |
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Oct 29 2007, 02:37 PM
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Orijen & Acana are under the same manufacturer & IINM they are almost the same but might have different percentage on Analysis.
Here are the analysis for both brand: Orijen Cat Protein 45.0% Fat 20.0% Carbohydrate 15.0% Moisture 10.0% Fiber 2.0% Calcium (min.) 1.6% Calcium (max.) 1.8% Phosphorus (min.) 1.3% Phosphorus (max.) 1.5% Omega-6 3.8% Omega-3 0.9% Glucosamine (min.) 500 mg/kg Chondroitine (min.) 150 mg/kg Microorganisms 80M cfu/kg pH 5.0 Ash (min.) 7.0% Ash (max.) 7.5% Acana Kitten Protein (min.) --- 35.0% Calcium (min.) --- 1.1% Fat (min.) --- 22.0% Taurine (min.) --- 0.16% Fiber (max.) --- 2.5 % Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.0 % * Moisture (max.) --- 10.0% Omega-3 (min.) --- 0.6 % * Magnesium (min.) --- 0.09% ME (min.) --- 4,570 kcal/kg Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0% Phosphorus (min.) --- 1.1% * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO Acana Cat Protein (min.) --- 32.0% Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0% Fat (min.) --- 20.0% Taurine (min.) --- 0.16% Fibre (max.) --- 2.5% Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.8 % * Moisture (max.) --- 10.0% Omega-3 (min.) --- 1.0 % * Magnesium (max.) --- 0.09 % ME --- 4,250 kcal/kg * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO If choose Acana, go for kitten. Coz it may be smaller in size compare to Cat. p/s: If the pokimon has taken RC all the while, i think you might have trouble in introducing either this brand to him/her. My boy just doesn't bother about Orijen. End up my sumos & sakais (gerbils) take. This post has been edited by babymoli: Oct 29 2007, 02:38 PM |
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Oct 29 2007, 03:30 PM
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I see... Basically it seems that Orijen is higher in Protein compared to both Acana cat & kitten.
My friend has been feeding her hedgie RC all the while, but when introduced to Orijen, her hedgie readily accepts Orijen and infact chose Orijen over RC Just checking on this cuz Orijen does not have smaller sample/trial pack size, but Acana do. They have the Acana kitten & cat pack in 400gm for only RM9.00 Getting Orijen is not a problem anyway as we can share and split them up... Just wanted to know the real deal behind both of these food So I think the choice still favors to Orijen in this case(Although it doesn't hurt that much if we choose Acana too!) Thanks Babymoli! KP |
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Oct 29 2007, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 03:30 PM) I see... Basically it seems that Orijen is higher in Protein compared to both Acana cat & kitten. Good to hear that the pokimon accept Orijen. It's better than RC. I wish to switch to Orijen but my boy just seems don't like it. Haiz~~ My friend has been feeding her hedgie RC all the while, but when introduced to Orijen, her hedgie readily accepts Orijen and infact chose Orijen over RC Just checking on this cuz Orijen does not have smaller sample/trial pack size, but Acana do. They have the Acana kitten & cat pack in 400gm for only RM9.00 Getting Orijen is not a problem anyway as we can share and split them up... Just wanted to know the real deal behind both of these food So I think the choice still favors to Orijen in this case(Although it doesn't hurt that much if we choose Acana too!) Thanks Babymoli! KP If you want to get smaller pack of Orijen, you can try PM White Palace as he has repack it for pokimons' owners & IINM, it's just RM1 extra than Acana 400gm. |
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Oct 29 2007, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 29 2007, 04:05 PM) Good to hear that the pokimon accept Orijen. It's better than RC. I wish to switch to Orijen but my boy just seems don't like it. Haiz~~ If you want to get smaller pack of Orijen, you can try PM White Palace as he has repack it for pokimons' owners & IINM, it's just RM1 extra than Acana 400gm. Did you try mix the Orijen and RC together and feed him? I hear that gradually introducing them with new food can work Yeah, I know about White Palace's offer, but it is "extremely" difficult for me to get from him... I'd rather get the 2.5kg and share it with my friend KP |
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Oct 29 2007, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:24 PM) Did you try mix the Orijen and RC together and feed him? I hear that gradually introducing them with new food can work Hahahaha.. I have tried that. He chose all RC out & left the Orijen in the bowl. I even tried to cut the Orijen into RC size also he refused to take. Yeah, I know about White Palace's offer, but it is "extremely" difficult for me to get from him... I'd rather get the 2.5kg and share it with my friend KP |
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Oct 29 2007, 04:33 PM
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Ahh see... Then he must addicted to RC...
My friend tried mixing with both too, her hedgie chose Orijen over RC... How about juz give him Orijen and nothing else for 3-4 days straight? I'm sure he would sooner or later eat it rather than starve... Or would hedgies rather starve?? KP |
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:33 PM) Ahh see... Then he must addicted to RC... Hahahaha..Tried that. He will go for water more. Only 3 - 4 kibbles he took. End up i gave up My friend tried mixing with both too, her hedgie chose Orijen over RC... How about juz give him Orijen and nothing else for 3-4 days straight? I'm sure he would sooner or later eat it rather than starve... Or would hedgies rather starve?? KP |
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Oct 29 2007, 04:45 PM
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Wahaha...
Then memang cannot do anything lor Means he would rather starve than eat anything else KP |
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 29 2007, 01:15 AM) that day i notice there's some blood stains on the wheel together with the poo stains Hmm.... bleeding, if foot, sometimes it's the nails... see got any breakage or not.... but if there is no wound then shouldn't be a problem.after checking i think one foot of my hedgie's hind legs was bleeding but for one day only, now ok already... but she's not eating...eats very little since after quilling...now eat even lesser.. i wonder is anything wrong with the kibbles or something's wrong with the hedgie? If your hedgie is having mood swings and not eating regularly, you can give treats like crickets and mealworms. QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 12:01 PM) Hi, Both brands also ok coz same manufacturer.... but Orijen is better lah. My Donut and Crinkels are eating Orijen dog kibbles mixed with Acana Adult cat mixed with Eaglepack small breed dog.... Yah, I know sounds a lot, but then it keeps them from becoming choosy if you mix a few brands together when at a young age.I've tried searching for some info regarding Orijen & Acana feeding to hedgies in this forum(and prev), but can't seem to find what I need to know I just want to know that between Orijen and Acana, which one is better? Both are similar to having fresh meats & vege contents, but if not mistaken something in the percentage of something is different(I can't remember Can someone help me out? Owh, and since Acana has separate ones for kitten & cat, which one is better to be used? Thanks! KP My Sparky, he did got a mixed variety of kibble when young but when he got older, there was one time I just gave RC only.... then now, whatever kibble you put in, he will only eat the RC and leave the rest there to rot. Now he is having his RC mixed with Nutri Source.... erm.... eating everything so ok lah, but he takes his own sweet time to finish his bowl of food. QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 29 2007, 02:37 PM) Orijen & Acana are under the same manufacturer & IINM they are almost the same but might have different percentage on Analysis. You got try the dog one? I realize my Crinkles and Donut don't like Orijen Cat but they like Orijen Dog hahah.... weird...Here are the analysis for both brand: Orijen Cat Protein 45.0% Fat 20.0% Carbohydrate 15.0% Moisture 10.0% Fiber 2.0% Calcium (min.) 1.6% Calcium (max.) 1.8% Phosphorus (min.) 1.3% Phosphorus (max.) 1.5% Omega-6 3.8% Omega-3 0.9% Glucosamine (min.) 500 mg/kg Chondroitine (min.) 150 mg/kg Microorganisms 80M cfu/kg pH 5.0 Ash (min.) 7.0% Ash (max.) 7.5% Acana Kitten Protein (min.) --- 35.0% Calcium (min.) --- 1.1% Fat (min.) --- 22.0% Taurine (min.) --- 0.16% Fiber (max.) --- 2.5 % Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.0 % * Moisture (max.) --- 10.0% Omega-3 (min.) --- 0.6 % * Magnesium (min.) --- 0.09% ME (min.) --- 4,570 kcal/kg Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0% Phosphorus (min.) --- 1.1% * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO Acana Cat Protein (min.) --- 32.0% Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0% Fat (min.) --- 20.0% Taurine (min.) --- 0.16% Fibre (max.) --- 2.5% Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.8 % * Moisture (max.) --- 10.0% Omega-3 (min.) --- 1.0 % * Magnesium (max.) --- 0.09 % ME --- 4,250 kcal/kg * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO If choose Acana, go for kitten. Coz it may be smaller in size compare to Cat. p/s: If the pokimon has taken RC all the while, i think you might have trouble in introducing either this brand to him/her. My boy just doesn't bother about Orijen. End up my sumos & sakais (gerbils) take. QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:24 PM) Did you try mix the Orijen and RC together and feed him? I hear that gradually introducing them with new food can work Get Orijen lah, I also beli but then is for dogs. Gliders love Orijen, if I give other dogfood, they tak mau. But I think Orijen is safe for them since it is not too hard and the ingredients is quite natural if compared to other brands of pet food. Yeah, I know about White Palace's offer, but it is "extremely" difficult for me to get from him... I'd rather get the 2.5kg and share it with my friend KP |
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Oct 29 2007, 10:12 PM
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My hoglets getting bigger and bigger. They starting to love RC kitten food
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