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MAGAMan-X
post Sep 29 2022, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Revoz @ Sep 29 2022, 06:13 PM)
Avoid the medication, u will forever depend on that medication. Go for healthy diet. Eat more vege, fruits, grain, high fiber food, white meat, no red meat, less sweet foods, less eat fried foods and junk foods. Exercise more, get sweat more cos sweat can at least lower your bad cholestrol LDL. U need to start diet now cos that high cholestrol level can damage your kidney too. Drink more plain water everyday to flush out toxic in body. Drink lemon also good.
U still can drink and eat sweet but moderate, but since your cholestrol high better less than moderate 1st. U still need sweet for energy.
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For a healthy diet AVOID fruits and grains and seed oils. Eat MORE meats, vegetables i guess it's OK if you want to eat it, but if not, you can skip.

QUOTE(EdEd @ Sep 29 2022, 06:19 PM)
keto only make cholesterol worst

speaking from experience
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What do you mean by "worse" cholesterol?

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 29 2022, 06:31 PM)
Depends on what kind of fat you are taking. If olive oil and avocado no issue. If animal fat, sure.
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Animal fat is not an issue. Humans have been eating animal fat for hundreds of thousands of years.

You know what humans have only started eating in the last few decades? Refined carbs and seed oils, started somewhere around the 60's.

Guess what decade we started seeing increased instances of metabolic diseases?
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post Sep 29 2022, 07:14 PM

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Your cholesterol is TOTALLY reversible on a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil WFPB NO diet.

7 months ago, my cholesterol was 9.29

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Thanks to WFPB no oil, it's now 3.4

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post Sep 29 2022, 07:38 PM

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1. eat less sugar
2. eat less processed meat/canned foods
3. eat less fried, low quality oil food
4. drink more water
5. drink way less sugary beverages
6. exercise more frequently
7. sleep around 7-8 hours per day

keep your discipline with these simple tips
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post Sep 29 2022, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 29 2022, 05:38 PM)
8.1 is total cholesterol?

Mine was 7.0 last year. Since then I took red yeast rice (capsules) and in this year also started to consume BG22 oat bran (powder). In the last medical check-up, total cholesterol level dropped to 5.5.

You may want to consider some extreme diets like keto diet...

Caution:
Too much red yeast rice can be bad for your liver.
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Yes, total is 8.1. need to take this seriously now.

Triglycerides - 2.12
HDL - 1.31
non-HDL - 6.8
LDL - 6.41
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post Sep 29 2022, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Sep 29 2022, 05:43 PM)
People will laugh at me but I'll offer my input

Cholesterol thing can be reversed. Nothing such as chronic

What you really need to do is a change of lifestyle now. But your 8.1 is accumulative of what your eating lifestyle is for the past 20 yrs. Can you change now

Dr see 100s of clients everyday. They gives quick solution to treat symptoms. Not fix problems. Pharmacy company and Dr are symbiosis relationships. They leech on one another.

Depend on drugs forever. They love most. If whole 33 mil Malaysians can do that. Hooray. When do you hear dr really cares about healing and not about treating symptoms.

They're also dr who believe in natural healing. You need to find them and give you advice

What helps to reduce cholesterol

Every morning drink phyllium husk. Or do that before you go to bed

Drink beta glucan drink

Eat oat for breakfast

Do that for 1 mth. Recheck cholesterol level. Also check your bad cholesterol. Good one is fine. You need to address the bad cholesterol.

Start walking 5km everyday too

No cooking using oil for now. Use steam method

No fried stuff

More veg.

Most are common sense but few get it.
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Thanks for the advice, this is what i really wanna get advice from. as far as i know, cholesterol medicine need to take in a long period, possible for your whole life. i am just 35 and cant imagine that i need to take medicine for the rest of my life.

QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Sep 29 2022, 05:46 PM)
Is that ldl or hdl that’s high?

How old are you?

Family history of high cholesterol?

Race?

Doctor a GP/physician/cardiologist?

I would suggest if it was a GP, you go to a physician and then a cardiologist first before taking meds for this.

Also before going on it, at least try a diet of oats, bananas and soy milk for 2 out of 3 meals for 6 weeks and exercise by brisk walking at least 40 mins per day. Make sure the oats is raw rather than instant oats.
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I am 35 years old Chinese. as far as I know, my family did not have history of high cholesterol, it is the health screening doctor that actually advice me to go for medication.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 29 2022, 05:56 PM)
Many doctors don't know about lifestyle part. Start doing intermittent fasting. Cut away your carbs that means rice, Nasi lemak. Roti canai, mee goreng. Mihun goreng, kuih. Exercise moderate intensity at least 3x a week (skipping rope, walking up stairs, Squats, weight lifting -get some weights and lift them at home, jumping jacks etc)

Eat one avocado a day. Eat oats everyday after fasting. Avocado is expensive but it works. You can get cheap ones from indon sellers.

If you drink beer remove it. That means no more happy hours/Friday drinking. Fatty liver disease can cause the liver to be less efficient.

Go back after 3 months and see the result.
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thanks for the advice, gonna start change my life style and food starting this moment. i cannot imagine that i will need to take the medicine to control the cholesterol for the rest of my life.

QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Sep 29 2022, 06:01 PM)
First things first. Do you all know what is cholesterol?

LDL and HDL as their acronyms imply, are lipoproteins, NOT a cholesterol. Blaming LDL/HDL is like blaming ambulance for accidents on the road.

When you get the reading, what are they? Is it accompanied by other blood work, e.g. BP, triglyceride levels?

Most doctors are hacks, I've given up on them since 2021. They know lots about illness, but little about health. Their business is making sure you have symptoms to keep you going back to them.
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I do know that there is so called "good" and "bad" cholesterol. but i only know which is good and not good today. below is my result for cholesterol.

Triglycerides - 2.12
HDL - 1.31
non-HDL - 6.8
LDL - 6.41

QUOTE(Revoz @ Sep 29 2022, 06:13 PM)
Avoid the medication, u will forever depend on that medication. Go for healthy diet. Eat more vege, fruits, grain, high fiber food, white meat, no red meat, less sweet foods, less eat fried foods and junk foods. Exercise more, get sweat more cos sweat can at least lower your bad cholestrol LDL. U need to start diet now cos that high cholestrol level can damage your kidney too. Drink more plain water everyday to flush out toxic in body. Drink lemon also good.
U still can drink and eat sweet but moderate, but since your cholestrol high better less than moderate 1st. U still need sweet for energy.
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Thanks for the advice. as I know, the cholesterol medicine need to be taken in long period, possibly the rest of the life, that's why I treat medicine treatment is the last resort if i have tried everything.



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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Sep 29 2022, 06:22 PM)
Risk factors

Factors that can increase your risk of unhealthy cholesterol levels include:

    Poor diet. Eating too much saturated fat or trans fats can result in unhealthy cholesterol levels. Saturated fats are found in fatty cuts of meat and full-fat dairy products. Trans fats are often found in packaged snacks or desserts.

    Obesity. Having a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or greater puts you at risk of high cholesterol
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    Lack of exercise. Exercise helps boost your body's HDL, the "good," cholesterol.

    Smoking. Cigarette smoking may lower your level of HDL, the "good," cholesterol.

    Alcohol. Drinking too much alcohol can increase your total cholesterol level.

    Age. Even young children can have unhealthy cholesterol, but it's much more common in people over 40. As you age, your liver becomes less able to remove LDL cholesterol.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditi...es/syc-20350800
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Thanks a lot for the info, I think I hit the top 3, haha... need to take it seriously and start to change my diet and lifestyle ady.

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 29 2022, 06:47 PM)
U wont die in short time soon.

If u dont want to take medicine u can try to change ur lifestyle which including less carbs, less sugar, less salt, no smoking, no drinking, sleep early, go excercise.

Do it for 6 months do another test to check level.
If it goes down then continue and repeat.
If still same level or higher then no choice to take med
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Thanks for the suggestion, this seems to be a good approach for me, appreciate it.
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QUOTE(ccxh @ Sep 29 2022, 07:14 PM)
Your cholesterol is TOTALLY reversible on a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil WFPB NO diet.

7 months ago, my cholesterol was 9.29

user posted image

Thanks to WFPB no oil, it's now 3.4

user posted image
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Wow, that's an impressive result! thanks a lot for the sharing, it did encouraged me! gonna go ahead and study the method.
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post Sep 29 2022, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(ccxh @ Sep 29 2022, 07:14 PM)
Your cholesterol is TOTALLY reversible on a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil WFPB NO diet.

7 months ago, my cholesterol was 9.29

user posted image

Thanks to WFPB no oil, it's now 3.4

user posted image
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can share what you usually eat then? if eating out, what would you order?
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QUOTE(zodius @ Sep 29 2022, 08:46 PM)
Thanks for the advice, this is what i really wanna get advice from. as far as i know, cholesterol medicine need to take in a long period, possible for your whole life. i am just 35 and cant imagine that i need to take medicine for the rest of my life. 
I am 35 years old Chinese. as far as I know, my family did not have history of high cholesterol, it is the health screening doctor that actually advice me to go for medication.
thanks for the advice, gonna start change my life style and food starting this moment. i cannot imagine that i will need to take the medicine to control the cholesterol for the rest of my life.
I do know that there is so called "good" and "bad" cholesterol.  but i only know which is good and not good today. below is my result for cholesterol.

Triglycerides - 2.12
HDL - 1.31
non-HDL - 6.8
LDL - 6.41
Thanks for the advice. as I know, the cholesterol medicine need to be taken in long period, possibly the rest of the life, that's why I treat medicine treatment is the last resort if i have tried everything.
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Dude, I suggest like others have suggested you take steps to do something about it first.

Chinese as a whole don't have history genetic issues that brings about high cholesterol levels and if you don't have a family history then there's zero reason to go on meds at 35, I'd suggest you control your diet and get walking a bit more as it'd be a very rare situation that your condition requires medication.
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post Sep 29 2022, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Sep 29 2022, 05:43 PM)
People will laugh at me but I'll offer my input

Cholesterol thing can be reversed. Nothing such as chronic

What you really need to do is a change of lifestyle now. But your 8.1 is accumulative of what your eating lifestyle is for the past 20 yrs. Can you change now

Dr see 100s of clients everyday. They gives quick solution to treat symptoms. Not fix problems. Pharmacy company and Dr are symbiosis relationships. They leech on one another.

Depend on drugs forever. They love most. If whole 33 mil Malaysians can do that. Hooray. When do you hear dr really cares about healing and not about treating symptoms.

They're also dr who believe in natural healing. You need to find them and give you advice

What helps to reduce cholesterol

Every morning drink phyllium husk. Or do that before you go to bed

Drink beta glucan drink

Eat oat for breakfast

Do that for 1 mth. Recheck cholesterol level. Also check your bad cholesterol. Good one is fine. You need to address the bad cholesterol.

Start walking 5km everyday too

No cooking using oil for now. Use steam method

No fried stuff

More veg.

Most are common sense but few get it.
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Also

You may start take salad with hard oil egg, steam chicken breast, steam fish, and low sugar fruits. 12 hr puasa is a great start.
Walk at least 10k steps per day.

It will be very hard for the first week, but eventually you will get used to it.

Good luck.
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Total cholesterol is not the issue but your triglycerides/HDL ratio which I think is a better indication of potential heart issues.

There is much more evidence of refined sugar causing heart related problems rather saturated fats from meat
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You need to consider other factors like weight, bmi, waist circumference, blood pressure.

How is your workouts like?
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QUOTE(ccxh @ Sep 29 2022, 07:14 PM)
Your cholesterol is TOTALLY reversible on a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil WFPB NO diet.

7 months ago, my cholesterol was 9.29

user posted image

Thanks to WFPB no oil, it's now 3.4

user posted image
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Have your weight, blood pressure also reduced?

I am practicing 70% WFPB NO diet calorie deficit and doing strength workouts


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post Sep 29 2022, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(zodius @ Sep 29 2022, 08:46 PM)
I do know that there is so called "good" and "bad" cholesterol.  but i only know which is good and not good today. below is my result for cholesterol.

Triglycerides - 2.12
HDL - 1.31
non-HDL - 6.8
LDL - 6.41
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There are no bad cholesterol. They all serve a function in your body. If you very low cholesterol levels, your body will suffer. The problem is people have been brainwashed to think cholesterol is bad, but your body makes cholesterol, does it mean the body is trying to kill itself?

Your triglyceride levels may be a little on the high side, now this one is a bit more of a concern, because high triglycerides is a sign that you're overeating, most likely on carbs (because it is very difficult to overeat on fat). The carbs raised your blood glucose and your body eventually converts them to glycerol, and then binds with 3 fatty acids to form triglycerides, which is then used as storage energy. The high LDL levels form an unhealthy relationship with triglycerides (you CAN have high LDLs with low triglyceride levels).

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia...&contentid=2967

Watch the video I posted from the previous page about cholesterol. It quite clearly illustrates the connection between oxidized LDL (the actual bad cholesterol) and heart disease. It will probably be the most useful 30 minutes you spend this week.
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QUOTE(zodius @ Sep 29 2022, 05:15 PM)
Hi all, i have my screening report today and discover that my cholesterol level is at super high level at 8.1, doctor tell me that for my level, changing of lifestyle or food will not help much ady, I need to start take medicine. May I know how true is the statement, is it really nth can be done except taking medication?
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You prefer to listen to ktards instead of your doctor?

If you need second opinion, why not consult another doctor or two?
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post Sep 29 2022, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(ccxh @ Sep 29 2022, 07:14 PM)
Your cholesterol is TOTALLY reversible on a Whole Food Plant Based No Oil WFPB NO diet.

7 months ago, my cholesterol was 9.29

user posted image

Thanks to WFPB no oil, it's now 3.4

user posted image
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Wow... good one!

My total cholesterol was 7.9. 4 months and it's down to 6.5...
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Try consuming this. Alot of people I know swear by this:

https://shopee.com.my/Nutrilicious-Ginger-G...a7-2d5d6a8f1539
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Eat vegan and don't eat meat better for health
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Sep 29 2022, 07:09 PM)
For a healthy diet AVOID fruits and grains and seed oils. Eat MORE meats, vegetables i guess it's OK if you want to eat it, but if not, you can skip.

What do you mean by "worse" cholesterol?
Animal fat is not an issue. Humans have been eating animal fat for hundreds of thousands of years.

You know what humans have only started eating in the last few decades? Refined carbs and seed oils, started somewhere around the 60's.

Guess what decade we started seeing increased instances of metabolic diseases?
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Fruits and grains is ok actually. Most of time i eat less sweet fruits. This my personal experience actually. Few years back my cholestrol above 7.3. I diet eat high fiber bread, grains, white meat ok but NO RED MEAT. 5 months later i blood test again my cholestrol go down 5.4. Til today i maintain that healthy lifestyle.
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QUOTE(kamfoo @ Sep 29 2022, 10:44 PM)
Eat vegan and don't eat meat better for health
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Depend how you cook. Vegetarian food could be more unhealthy than meat.

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