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 [2023] iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max Discussion, The ultimate iPhone.

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post Aug 17 2023, 11:14 AM

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More images apparently confirming the iPhone 15's using a USB-C port have been posted to Twitter/X by leaker Majin Bu. Except one chip on the new port's circuit board may be cause for concern.

The images, apparently of the charging board for the iPhone 15 Plus, back up what we've heard rumored several times already: that Apple will ditch Lightning ports after ten years, and move the new iPhone 15 series (and possibly the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus too) to USB-C, as it's been doing with iPads over the past several years. And just in time too, since the European Union's law ordering electronic devices to use a common charging port will go into force next year.
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But complicating this is a mystery 3LD3 chip also present on the charging board. This is an Apple-designed chip according to Majin Bu, and therefore it's hard to know what it does. Bu's hunch is that it's for "transmission encryption," to protect data being transferred through the port, but an Apple-specific chip on a connector like this has set alarm bells ringing.
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Apple could be introducing limitations
While USB-C is a very common port, there have been rumors and more general fears that Apple will be doing its best to ensure its current Made for iPhone (MFi) program still exercises control over what will work properly with iPhones.

It's been tipped that Apple could limit the performance of USB-C cables and accessories that it hasn't approved with the iPhone 15. The idea is apparently that while any USB-C accessory will work with the iPhone, only those made by companies with an Apple license will get access to the full data and charging speeds. This could be illegal under the EU's common charger law according to EU legislators, but they don't know any more about Apple's plans than we do.
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This is obviously not confirmed yet, and even the rumors are not that well-supported. But considering how Apple's been hanging on to the aging Lightning port for as long as it reasonably can in order to keep users and companies using its proprietary tech, we've got cause to think Apple could spoil the iPhone 15's USB-C transition.

We likely won't hear confirmation of the precise details of the iPhone 15's USB-C ports at the Apple September event where the phones are expected to debut. But we should still see Apple talk up the new port on the iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, as well as other big upgrades like the Pro models' Action button and A17 Bionic chipset.

Source: iPhone 15 USB-C port features a mysterious extra chip — and that's got us worried
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post Aug 17 2023, 07:40 PM

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Looking forward to iPhone 15 pro max.
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post Aug 18 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 17 2023, 07:40 PM)
Looking forward to iPhone 15 pro max.
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which of the three sg apple store?🙊
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QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 18 2023, 10:28 AM)
which of the three sg apple store?🙊
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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 18 2023, 01:29 PM)
orchard...
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camp at midnight?🙊
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confirm dont have the silent switch?
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QUOTE(sasuke8678 @ Aug 18 2023, 04:37 PM)
confirm dont have the silent switch?
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should have, just different form🙈
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QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 18 2023, 02:01 PM)
camp at midnight?🙊
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No need at all. Just preorder on apple sg website and collect on the launch date.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 18 2023, 06:21 PM)
No need at all. Just preorder on apple sg website and collect on the launch date.
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walk in to real apple is the next best thing🙊
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QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 18 2023, 07:52 PM)
walk in to real apple is the next best thing🙊
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no point. so far i had managed to order 2 x units and collected on 1st day of launch. tongue.gif
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post Aug 19 2023, 10:03 AM

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I’ll wait it out till next year. Not in a rush to buy. I’m happy with my current pro max 14.

I have a feeling the i15 prices will be higher than what is acceptable to me.
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QUOTE(ftan @ Aug 19 2023, 10:03 AM)
I’ll wait it out till next year. Not in a rush to buy. I’m happy with my current pro max 14.

I have a feeling the i15 prices will be higher than what is acceptable to me.
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Indeed. See what iPhone 15 pro max is going to offer before deciding on what to do with my current iPhone 14 pro max.
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QUOTE(ftan @ Aug 19 2023, 10:03 AM)
I’ll wait it out till next year. Not in a rush to buy. I’m happy with my current pro max 14.

I have a feeling the i15 prices will be higher than what is acceptable to me.
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will buy no matter what price it came, don't upgrade yearly though so just get one of the top tier unit when current performance degrades🙈
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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 19 2023, 10:19 AM)
Indeed. See what iPhone 15 pro max is going to offer before deciding on what to do with my current iPhone 14 pro max.
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can foresee not much different other than rumors mention🙈
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QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 19 2023, 02:01 PM)
can foresee not much different other than rumors mention🙈
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We shall see. Less than a month now to the announcement. Apple may surprise us with a must change factor? Who knows.
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QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 19 2023, 01:57 PM)
will buy no matter what price it came, don't upgrade yearly though so just get one of the top tier unit when current performance degrades🙈
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Go for it. The phone can last few years. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ftan @ Aug 19 2023, 03:53 PM)
Go for it. The phone can last few years. smile.gif
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from my purchased history, they sure last a while 🙈

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iPhone 14 Pro Max

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iPhone 15 Pro
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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 20 2023, 06:41 PM)
iPhone 14 Pro Max

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iPhone 15 Pro
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post Aug 21 2023, 12:18 PM

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There are a lot of rumored changes coming to the iPhone 15 Pro, but one of those changes could spell the end of a feature that’s been part of the iPhone experience since day one. I am talking about the mute switch, a toggle that lets you easily switch your iPhone’s ringer on or off.
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According to a growing number of rumors, the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max are set to remove the mute switch and replace it with a new solid-state “action button”. It’s been claimed that this button will still be able to toggle the ringer on and off, though users will also be able to program the button to do various other useful features.

The mute switch isn’t completely dead, since rumors have only applied to iPhone 15 Pro so far, but this is the end of an era for all smartphones — not just the iPhone. An era that I’m quite sad to see go.

I’m going to miss the physical toggle
I’m quite a big fan of physical buttons and toggles where it’s possible. The mechanical keyboard connected to my desktop is much more efficient and satisfying to use than the keyboard on my laptop, for instance. And buttons and dials in the car make a heck of a lot more sense than packing everything into a smooth, glossy touchscreen.
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Physical objects offer a tactile experience, and it means you can tell what the situation is by touch alone. The volume of a phone is one of those things that can be an absolute nightmare in the wrong place and time. A physical toggle is an easy way to switch the volume off quickly and silently, while also being able to subtly check its position should the need arise.

I’ve spent a lot of time with Android phones, and the various volume sliders in the software itself are really annoying to use. You could try and rely on the volume buttons alone, but considering there are five separate volume sliders in Android right now, there’s no guarantee that it’ll make any difference to the right volume level if you’re not looking at the screen.

Granted, Apple’s mute switch doesn’t silent every single noise. If you want to silent all volume, including alarms and media, you need to switch on Do Not Disturb in the Control Center. If I had my way I’d add a third setting to the toggle, much like OnePlus did with its Alert Slider, that lets you silence all noise.

Unfortunately, that isn’t likely to be the case with the new Action Button on iPhone 15 Pro. Because a solid-state button is exactly as the name suggests. No physical movement means it’s going to feel exactly the same regardless of what phase your phone is in at any given time.

Action button: At least we're getting something in return
I can’t blame Apple for replacing the mute switch with something a little more modern, and frankly it’s surprising that it’s taken this long to do. Many of the toggle’s contemporaries were scrapped years ago, whether you’re talking about the old 30-pin charger, the headphone jack or even the home button. The only things that can claim the same level of longevity are the power and volume buttons, and that’s because they’re essential parts more than anything else.

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Moving parts have a habit of wearing down over time, and the mute switch’s main job is moving from one position to another. No matter how much or little you use that toggle there’s always a chance that it will, eventually, wear down and break. A solid state button has no such issues, because it’s, well, solid.

It’s also worth noting that we have heard rumors about iPhones replacing all their buttons with solid-state alternatives. Rumors that it would happen to the iPhone 15 Pro have been refuted several times, but there has been word that Apple could make the switch next year with the iPhone 16 Pro. In a way you could see the launch of the action button as a baby step towards that upgrade, which in turn could lead to a portless, seamless iPhone in the near future.

And in Apple’s defense, if the rumors are true then it sounds like Apple isn’t taking a feature away. We’ve heard a bunch about what the Action Button could do, and one of its main purposes is to put the phone into silent mode. In other words, it’s still a mute switch of sorts — even if there’s no actual switch to speak of. Not like OnePlus, who just removed the alert slider and used the old “we needed that space” excuse.

The fact the action button can be programmed to do other stuff, be it activate the flashlight, record voice memos, activate a shortcut, or something totally customizable, means that the former mute switch has a lot more use than before. Plus, it gives users more choice on how their phone works, which is something Apple’s only realized is a good thing over the past few years.

Still, a solid-state mute button won’t be nearly as satisfying as the physical mute switch. Not just because you can flick it on and off, but also because you always know what position it’s in — even if you aren’t looking at it. An immovable button doesn’t quite have that same appeal.

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I understand what Apple is rumored to be doing here, and I can’t fault the logic behind swapping the mute switch for an action button. It does the same thing as before, but does it in a way that offers more if users want it that way. I’ve long argued that phone makers should give people more opportunities to choose, rather than dictating how their products be used, and the action button rumors are the perfect example of that in action.

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But I can’t help feeling a little sad. The mute switch was there back in June 2007, when the very first iPhone landed in our hands, and it’s endured for the past 14 years. Since the action button is expected to be a Pro-exclusive feature we may still see the mute switch stick around for another year or two. But the writing seems to be on the wall, and it seems like the toggle is on its way out in the very near future.

Source: The iPhone 15 Pro could be the end of an era — here’s why.

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