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post Aug 2 2023, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 2 2023, 10:58 AM)
u havent even reach that win big stage yet and u are talking as if u are so sure that u can control urself when u reach that stage

i am not doubting u, but at least u talk when u reach that stage first before u talk ok? now u are not "qualified" to talk about it

for me, i was once like u, telling everyone i can control myself and i gambled just like u for a few years and until i gained a genting silver card at the 2nd year onwards and my record was won few k in 1 session, from getting used to winning few hundreds to few k, and my capital from few hundreds increase to few k also

and i end up? losing my control also after few years of controlled gambling despite all of my own "guarantees" that i can absolutely control myself, years of self control destroyed after winning big for a few times

so conclusion is, before u reach that stage of winning big, just dont talk big here and say how good u can control urself, because u are not there yet n u shuld only come here n justify urself when u are at that stage and u already proven it, and not saying how good u can control ur gambling now but have nothing to prove about it
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post Aug 2 2023, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 11:17 AM)
See I knew you were projecting yourself.
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yeah so i am qualified to talk about gambling addiction because i was one of the "victims"?

and u? are u one of the victims? hahahha

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post Aug 2 2023, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 2 2023, 10:58 AM)
u havent even reach that win big stage yet and u are talking as if u are so sure that u can control urself when u reach that stage

i am not doubting u, but at least u talk when u reach that stage first before u talk ok? now u are not "qualified" to talk about it

for me, i was once like u, telling everyone i can control myself and i gambled just like u for a few years and until i gained a genting silver card at the 2nd year onwards and my record was won few k in 1 session, from getting used to winning few hundreds to few k, and my capital from few hundreds increase to few k also

and i end up? losing my control also after few years of controlled gambling despite all of my own "guarantees" that i can absolutely control myself, years of self control destroyed after winning big for a few times

so conclusion is, before u reach that stage of winning big, just dont talk big here and say how good u can control urself, because u are not there yet n u shuld only come here n justify urself when u are at that stage and u already proven it, and not saying how good u can control ur gambling now but have nothing to prove about it
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Yeaps. But there are casual gamblers that do not/have not gotten addicted.

Same like casual social smokers VS actual smokers.

Once you touch the hardcore addiction, the path of recovery is tough. Like they say, once a smoker you can never be a social smokers anymore. Similar to gambling i feel.

While I don't know how many and how long it takes to convert a social to hardcore, there are ppl that stays casual and did not be a hardcore. But if kena hook hardcore, all the best lah.
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post Aug 2 2023, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Aug 2 2023, 11:20 AM)
Yeaps. But there are casual gamblers that do not/have not gotten addicted.

Same like casual social smokers VS actual smokers.

Once you touch the hardcore addiction, the path of recovery is tough. Like they say, once a smoker you can never be a social smokers anymore. Similar to gambling i feel.

While I don't know how many and how long it takes to convert a social to hardcore, there are ppl that stays casual and did not be a hardcore. But if kena hook hardcore, all the best lah.
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true, but its very easy to convert from casual gambler to hardcore gambler, u just hav to win big a few times and u will most likely be a hardcore gambler already haha, because the extra big winnings u get will be your next session punya capital and will make ur bets alot bigger than usual

unless a person have proven that he/she can consistently still bet on a constant amount every session even after winning big a few times, like lets say bring rm500 and gamble rm500 every month consistently for many years even after winning consistently few thousands in most of the sessions
then that person have godlike control or discipline and really can control himself

but if just win few hundreds per session then leave and brag about how good he can control himself, then thats useless la, it just take a moment of greed to make that person become a hardcore gambler hahhaa
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post Aug 2 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Aug 2 2023, 11:20 AM)
Yeaps. But there are casual gamblers that do not/have not gotten addicted.

Same like casual social smokers VS actual smokers.

Once you touch the hardcore addiction, the path of recovery is tough. Like they say, once a smoker you can never be a social smokers anymore. Similar to gambling i feel.

While I don't know how many and how long it takes to convert a social to hardcore, there are ppl that stays casual and did not be a hardcore. But if kena hook hardcore, all the best lah.
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If you want to see if you got an addiction or not then see your winning. If can win 1000 and above then got addicted adi. Because only with addiction you can win more. Addiction can cause to you play more. You must play more only can win more.

Same like heroin, once you get addicted then the heroin portion you take will increase over time.

Next is depends on how long you have gamble. If few years adi means very addicted already, like taking heroin cannot stop. You only stop when you lose all your money cannot buy the heroin or are arrested by cops.

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post Aug 2 2023, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 2 2023, 11:38 AM)
If you want to see if you got an addiction or not then see your winning. If can win 1000 and above then got addicted adi. Because only with addiction you can win more. Addiction can cause to you play more. You must play more only can win more.

Same like heroin, once you get addicted then the heroin portion you take will increase over time.

Next is depends on how long you have gamble. If few years adi means very addicted already, like taking heroin cannot stop. You only stop when you lose all your money cannot buy the heroin or are arrested by cops.
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Or when you win close to 10k like me.

But you are free to visualise that I am bankrupt because of the fact that you are a loser.

Dun worry. The day where I find out it is not worth putting into sports, is the day I quit

I know you are a very very sad person just like I knew the other guy lost big.

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post Aug 2 2023, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 07:34 PM)
Or when you win close to 10k like me.

But you are free to visualise that I am bankrupt because of the fact that you are a loser.

Dun worry. The day where I find out it is not worth putting into sports, is the day I quit

I know you are a very very sad person just like I knew the other guy lost big.
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lol talk big as if u can control your gambling, dont 1 day u lose all the 10k of your winnings and then lose another 100k, i will be waiting for the day patiently laugh.gif

btw i didnt lose big as u claimed, i only lost like around rm2k+ after deducting all my previous winnings and thanks to covid which saved me from further losing more money n stopped my addiction biggrin.gif

u talk until so big, now i cant wait for u to lose everything u have laugh.gif

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post Aug 2 2023, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 2 2023, 10:06 PM)
lol talk big as if u can control your gambling, dont 1 day u lose all the 10k of your winnings and then lose another 100k, i will be waiting for the day patiently laugh.gif

btw i didnt lose big as u claimed, i only lost like around rm2k+ after deducting all my previous winnings and thanks to covid which saved me from further losing more money n stopped my addiction biggrin.gif

u talk until so big, now i cant wait for u to lose everything u have laugh.gif
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Sure.
See I know what you really are from the start.

Dun worry. Not everyone is like you.
And looking at the bitterness you have, I doubt you actually just lost 2k.

You can wait long long before I lose everything. Maybe when I am senile.

You see, if you just lost 2k, it's just a "learning" experience. It's when you are almost bankrupt that you start becoming bitter when someone else starts winning.

Dun worry. Losers are losers. Even if gambling does not exist, they will find a way to lose everything anyway.

Like I said. My self control level is much much greater then yours and so dun worry. You have to wait until I become senile for that day to come.

And my 10k win is accumulation. Not just a big win type. But you are not at my level. Sorry.

You just cannot handle the fact that gambling almost broke you but yet someone else benefited from that.

Ppl like you are useless and will never learn.

You see. For ppl with common sense. If they win 10k. Definitely next day will only use 2k out of that to bet. Everyone can see that except you. The only difference is, you are "anti gambling ' that is why no body say anything.

Can see you are already a massive failure in life just dun want to say just now only. Ask me if I win 10k today whether I will lose it all tomorrow. What a stupid question.

I can say 80% will not. But you are special.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: Aug 2 2023, 11:12 PM
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post Aug 2 2023, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 10:59 PM)
Sure.
See I know what you really are from the start.

Dun worry. Not everyone is like you.
And looking at the bitterness you have, I doubt you actually just lost 2k.

You can wait long long before I lose everything. Maybe when I am senile.

You see, if you just lost 2k, it's just a "learning" experience. It's when you are almost bankrupt that you start becoming bitter when someone else starts winning.

Like I said. My self control level is much much greater then yours and so dun worry. You have to wait until I become senile for that day to come.

And my 10k win is accumulation. Not just a big win type. But you are not at my level. Sorry.
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what i really am? u want to be an arsehole then i also be arsehole to u la whistling.gif biggrin.gif , why u butthurt? laugh.gif

i am not bitter about anyone start winning, i am only giving my views as a former gambling addict and also to rebuke some ppl here who say they have godlike control and discipline who thinks they can really control their gambling whistling.gif


And my 10k win is accumulation. Not just a big win type. But you are not at my level. Sorry.

u seems not to understand my point until now yeah, accumulating your big winnings is nothing, like i said before, how those people who won alot of money and initially 'gamed' the casino then ended up losing everything they have? u think its so easy to win casino's money? laugh.gif , then why are all casino owners rich like fark? have u yourself personally seen or know a gambling addict who is very rich and won alot of money from the casino?

it only take a big winning for u to entice u to bet bigger and bigger and in the end lose everything, thats what i have been saying,

and dont talk shit about your level, u are the one that is not at my level, u havent even win big in 1 session and u talk like as if u have godlike self-control LMAO doh.gif , win 10k in accumulation? what about win 10k in 1 night? not yet right? then why u talk until like u are so damn sure that when u win 10k in 1 night and u conlanfirm can control yourself and not gamble further? doh.gif

if u are really GODLIKE self control, then why not win 10k in a night for few times, then see if u can still gamble at your current rate or not for the next few years and so on, so dare to take up this challenge or not? if dont dare then dont talk cock about what godlike self control LOL

and another question, have u used up the 10k you won previously? or are u setting it up as gambling capital for the future? rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 2 2023, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 10:59 PM)
Sure.
See I know what you really are from the start.

Dun worry. Not everyone is like you.
And looking at the bitterness you have, I doubt you actually just lost 2k.

You can wait long long before I lose everything. Maybe when I am senile.

You see, if you just lost 2k, it's just a "learning" experience. It's when you are almost bankrupt that you start becoming bitter when someone else starts winning.

Dun worry. Losers are losers. Even if gambling does not exist, they will find a way to lose everything anyway.

Like I said. My self control level is much much greater then yours and so dun worry. You have to wait until I become senile for that day to come.

And my 10k win is accumulation. Not just a big win type. But you are not at my level. Sorry.

You just cannot handle the fact that gambling almost broke you but yet someone else benefited from that.

Ppl like you are useless and will never learn.

You see. For ppl with common sense. If they win 10k. Definitely next day will only use 2k out of that to bet. Everyone can see that except you. The only difference is, you are "anti gambling ' that is why no body say anything.

Can see you are already a massive failure in life just dun want to say just now only. Ask me if I win 10k today whether I will lose it all tomorrow. What a stupid question.

I can say 80% will not. But you are special.
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You see. For ppl with common sense. If they win 10k. Definitely next day will only use 2k out of that to bet. Everyone can see that except you. The only difference is, you are "anti gambling ' that is why no body say anything.

and its only a IF right? how sure are you? have u won 10k in 1 night before? how sure are you? i ask u again? how sure are you, you also said IF laugh.gif

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 2 2023, 11:16 PM)
You see. For ppl with common sense. If they win 10k. Definitely next day will only use 2k out of that to bet. Everyone can see that except you. The only difference is, you are "anti gambling ' that is why no body say anything.

and its only a IF right? how sure are you? have u won 10k in 1 night before? how sure are you? i ask u again? how sure are you, you also said IF laugh.gif
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If I won say a lottery. Nope. I will never lose that money back.

Sorry. Like I said not everyone is like you.
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post Aug 2 2023, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 2 2023, 11:14 PM)
what i really am? u want to be an arsehole then i also be arsehole to u la whistling.gif  biggrin.gif , why u butthurt?  laugh.gif

i am not bitter about anyone start winning, i am only giving my views as a former gambling addict and also to rebuke some ppl here who say they have godlike control and discipline who thinks they can really control their gambling whistling.gif
And my 10k win is accumulation. Not just a big win type. But you are not at my level. Sorry.

u seems not to understand my point until now yeah, accumulating your big winnings is nothing, like i said before, how those people who won alot of money and initially 'gamed' the casino then ended up losing everything they have? u think its so easy to win casino's money?  laugh.gif , then why are all casino owners rich like fark? have u yourself personally seen or know a gambling addict who is very rich and won alot of money from the casino?

it only take a big winning for u to entice u to bet bigger and bigger and in the end lose everything, thats what i have been saying,

and dont talk shit about your level, u are the one that is not at my level, u havent even win big in 1 session and u talk like as if u have godlike self-control LMAO doh.gif , win 10k in accumulation? what about win 10k in 1 night? not yet right? then why u talk until like u are so damn sure that when u win 10k in 1 night and u conlanfirm can control yourself and not gamble further?  doh.gif

if u are really GODLIKE self control, then why not win 10k in a night for few times, then see if u can still gamble at your current rate or not for the next few years and so on, so dare to take up this challenge or not? if dont dare then dont talk cock about what godlike self control LOL

and another question, have u used up the 10k you won previously? or are u setting it up as gambling capital for the future?  rolleyes.gif
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You talk with no logic.
Ppl can see you crazy Liao.

If I can win 10k a few times I also want lah. But what if I lose in order to try win that 10k

So stupid
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 11:20 PM)
If I won say a lottery. Nope. I will never lose that money back.

Sorry. Like I said not everyone is like you.
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come back and talk when u really won a lottery first, now u talk also no use, because all u can say is a big IF whistling.gif
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 11:21 PM)
You talk with no logic.
Ppl can see you crazy Liao.

If I can win 10k a few times I also want lah. But what if I lose in order to try win that 10k

So stupid
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yeah la, like i said lo, u also havent win big yet, why u so sure u can self control yourself? u are god that can predict your future and so sure u can control yourself when u win big? then can give me 4D numbers please? laugh.gif

so stupid


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post Aug 3 2023, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 2 2023, 10:59 PM)
Like I said. My self control level is much much greater then yours and so dun worry. You have to wait until I become senile for that day to come.

And my 10k win is accumulation. Not just a big win type. But you are not at my level. Sorry.

You just cannot handle the fact that gambling almost broke you but yet someone else benefited from that.

Ppl like you are useless and will never learn.


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If you said you won 10k before that means you confirmed already lost more than that already. I said already once a person can win 1k and above means the addiction is very strong already.

Only with strong addiction can win 1000. Once you take heroin for a long time , its hard to stop due to the addiction.

My friend last time told me he only went inside 1 time and bet RM50 then lost it and never went in back again.
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QUOTE(joykeanu @ Sep 26 2022, 03:31 PM)
Has anyone tried to stop but still come back even bet a small amount?
Because "Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit".

When u lose everything u feel depress but when u win big that moment only last maybe 1-7 days.
What is the best advise we all can use here?
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Never start.

I grew up with cinapek background. Got bunch of cinapek friends, cinapek relatives, all of them like want to gamble each every week, let it be pokers, cards or TOTO/Magnum.

I just dont like it.

So sometimes they got topic to sembang kacang and it's awkward for me to understand what are they buying big or small.
But i think that's best for me. I just dont like it and i never gamble, i set everything in my life.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 3 2023, 08:46 AM)
Never start.

I grew up with cinapek background. Got bunch of cinapek friends, cinapek relatives, all of them like want to gamble each every week, let it be pokers, cards or TOTO/Magnum.

I just dont like it.

So sometimes they got topic to sembang kacang and it's awkward for me to understand what are they buying big or small.
But i think that's best for me. I just dont like it and i never gamble, i set everything in my life.
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My mom in law and two sister in laws were avid punters.

My wife has cut off all contact with them after she found out how much money I’ve given them over the years. I gave what I gave out of respect and love for my wife, and she did what she did in the end out of respect and love for me.

So I have an allergic reaction to gambling - thanks, but no thanks.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 3 2023, 08:46 AM)
Never start.

I grew up with cinapek background. Got bunch of cinapek friends, cinapek relatives, all of them like want to gamble each every week, let it be pokers, cards or TOTO/Magnum.

I just dont like it.

So sometimes they got topic to sembang kacang and it's awkward for me to understand what are they buying big or small.
But i think that's best for me. I just dont like it and i never gamble, i set everything in my life.
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Agree, don't see a point to start. Those that get hooked, usually don't end up well or be slaves to these gambling centers.

Spending time and/or money there.
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find other hobby to do, make yourself busy, go social with friends, meet new friends
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My ex-colleague (let called him A), always hear them discuss 4D like wrong 1 number, miss the sequence. Sometime win small for 4D.

Some day 1 colleague tell me A owned 100k plus, keep losing keep borrowing. The creditor(loan shark) come office to find A guy.
At the end our boss pay him advance and big big bonus to help him + his relative find that creditor to reduce the amount to settle everything.

1 year later, out of nothing, A not coming anymore. A's closed colleague said A owned loan shark again, this time 200k. Boss not helping any cent. His wife divorced with him. He ran to other states. Never hear of him anymore. shakehead.gif

Best is never touch gambling, cause you are most likely the 9 out of 10 ppl that can control yourself. You will surely lose everything.

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