It is just the marking are different for both MMD that I have. The latest ones that I got, the shound is very much sharper and louder compared to my old ones.
But I will wait for the T1 and see how the latest order sounds like.

But I just feel that if it is from a same switch model, but from different batchs without any "improvement" made to the design, I would think it should not have significant difference in sound or feel. If it is so different, it should be labeled with something like MMD Holy Panda V2. But so far I do not notice any shopee seller mark it this way? Do you know any seller marking it as V1, V2?

Regarding the switches, this just means that if I find a particular switch I'm fond of, I would be wise to order more relatively quickly from the initial purchase from the same vendor to "lock" in the characteristic that I'm looking for.
How many are sufficient is really very subjective then.

regarding the M3, it really exceeded my expectation. The anodizing, machining etc is just great. I was expecting something like a "tin kosong".
I cannot imagine how a premium board feels and looks like. lolx

I will be looking to install those stabs that came with the M3 first.

Ya ya. Same feeling here. It is just hard to know what you are really gonna get unless you buy like 1 or 2 pcs to try out then buy more. lolx

Just completed the initial build of the M3, wanted to quickly know how an Aluminum board feels and sounds like to type on.
Something interesting for me:
I lubed and tuned the screw in stabs. Initially I checked all the stabs with the keycaps before the assembling PCB to the plate and casing. All was fine.
But after fully assembling it, the spacebar got sticky and I had to open up the casing again, loosen the screw on the stabs, realign it, then only tighten it back.
Didn't think that assembling the plate to the PCB would causing the stabs to be "misaligned"

Anyhow, I just used the foam between the PCB and plate. Removed all the other foams.
Switch = stock MMD holy pandas

The typing feel and sound is something new to me. Even with this stock MMDs, the board does not sound that hollow/metallic. It was towards the right side near to the arrow keys area that I can notice the "echo".
Comparing this Aluminum board to a plastic board that I have, a Alu board sounded more clean/crisp to me. Plastic is like muddy.

This just means more time for me to play and have fun with this board. Now waiting for those JWK T1 black to reach me for me to try it out on the M3.
Thinking of also getting that FR4 and POM plate for the M3 to play with as well later.



This post has been edited by zzzz52: Jun 3 2023, 09:49 PM

If they sell Aluminum plate, I will order it in a heart beat. Unfortunately, they do not.
I would love to explore different types of plates like carbon fiber, POM, FR4, Aluminum etc. Lets see if Monsgeek do sell more options.

Later is to get to understand something regarding the QMK/VIA. no knowledge at all at the moment.

This post has been edited by zzzz52: May 19 2023, 07:21 AM

What size are you looking for?

What do you all normally use to film your switches?
I just noticed that there is noticeable differences when I was trying to film my MMD holy pandas.
Initially I was using 0.15mm PC films and it sounded fine to what I wanted.
After that I tried using 0.2mm poron film, and it just sounded noticeably different, the PC film sounded more tighter, less "clacky" sound.
I think maybe those poron film was easily compressed by the housing while the PC film just made the housing tighter.
I felt this way as I had slightly harder time closing the top and bottom housing using the PC film vs the poron film.

I started to lube those MMD with and without film to see if there are any difference. And with PC film,, it did show a different that I prefer, therefore I done a few to test out after that I tried with the poron just to have some fun with it. I did not expect to have any significant noticeable difference, but it did. That is why i was curious if there are typical material that fits most switches. Thanks for the reply.

Definitely prefer if do not need to use film. I will check thise switches again to see any wobble differences

Then when we use normal stabs that comes with typical keyboards with long pole stems (my understanding is if we see the travel distance is <4mm, example 3.5mm) switches, the keycap will not be supported correctly?
I have never look into this and now I notice it, some switches when I install on those long keys, if I press on either side harder, the key cap will just "senget" to one side and vice versa.

Does this mean that when we are using a long pole stem switch, we would need to match it to stabs design for it?

lol. I just noticed that M1 and M3 are using different PCB thickness.
M1 = 1.2mm
M3 = 1.6mm

Why would they do that? lolx

This post has been edited by zzzz52: May 24 2023, 01:30 PM

I just mean that like if I'm using a switch like the JWICK T1, when you bottom out the switch on the long key, the whole key is flat across from end to end. But when I use some other switch, when you bottom out the key, the middle is higher vs the 2 sides at the stabs.

Oh no, the keycap is not bend. It is like you can press one side of the long key and the other side will lift off. THen you know that the middle (switch) is higher than the stabs.

Something like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboard...q3_stab_issues/

Anyone have experience fabricating custom plates?
I recently request for quote in shopee to fabricate carbon fiber plate for the M3 TKL, the price was RM180 fabricating + RM40 for material cost, total RM220. Aluminum option is RM50 for material cost.

I would need to cehck it out then. Never used taobao before.

The seller quoted me on the drawing that I provided. I'm just looking if the pricing make sense or anyone has any recommendation on vendor that provide this kind of services.

Very true. Wallet is definitely getting thinner.. lolx
But I did got a different shopee vendor to quote for a Aluminium plate for the M3. They are saying with powder coating, it cost RM42 including everything. I have placed an order for it to try it out.

Black. It would be interesting. I just wanted to see what the final product will look like and if it will even fit those switches and case. I'm also not sure how durable the powder coat is. But since the cost was not high, really interested to see how it turns out.
Fingers crossed.

Is buying from zfrontier straight forward? or do we need like any process to purchase from the site?

Where did you fabricate it? Interested to get one done.
Thanks.

Oh, so en.zfrontier.com vs www.zfrontier.com are different website. I was browsing using the www.zfrontier.com.
I was looking at the WOB keykobo keycaps and landed there.

They do exist as I have bought it a few years back. It was those cheap ABS OEM profile keycaps.

Hey, anyone used CRP keycaps previously? Any comments on it?