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leeyung
post Feb 22 2012, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 08:42 PM)
Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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Mind to share how "nice" is the nice price bro?
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 22 2012, 07:19 AM)
Mind to share how "nice" is the nice price bro?
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You got PMed. I don't know whether I should reveal the price here since some of you may not believe on what I said... I got this price because of my friend. Honestly, I do believe that their margin is high. Only installation fees is fixed.

This is the package that I got for DCMoto from Smarthome Technology that I mentioned before (Around RM1.4k)

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DC Moto 905 Swing/Folding Type AutoGate
**Suitable for Both Swing & Folding Gate System

Package Content:
DC MOTO 905 Swing Type DC Motor x2
DC Controller Board with PVC Box
Transformer & Backup Battery
Multifunctional Keypad x 1
Drivind Bar, Bracket & Boils
Antispy Remote Control x 3
Standard Installation (without Wiring)

Function:
1)Open Left / Right / Both Gate
2)ON / OFF Pillar Light with Multifunctional Keypad (depend on exiting wiring)
3)Panic Siren (Alarm) function
4)Auto recharge backup Battery
5)Auto reverse function (Open) the door when detect object (Must install Photo
Beam Sensor)

Price: RM 1350

Optional Item:
Safety Photo Beam Sensor -RM180
Siren Horn with 12V Delay - RM45
Additional Antispy Remote Control -RM60
I may sourcing the CCTV package & install it by myself since the installation fees is rocket high by CCTV installer. Believe it or not, the CCTV products margin is high on par with alarm system. I will install Alarm system myself if I know how to configure the panel. tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 22 2012, 08:12 AM)
You got PMed. I don't know whether I should reveal the price here since some of you may not believe on what I said... I got this price because of my friend. Honestly, I do believe that their margin is high. Only installation fees is fixed.

This is the package that I got for DCMoto from Smarthome Technology that I mentioned before (Around RM1.4k)
I may sourcing the CCTV package & install it by myself since the installation fees is rocket high by CCTV installer. Believe it or not, the CCTV products margin is high on par with alarm system. I will install Alarm system myself if I know how to configure the panel.  tongue.gif
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I find Pasar Rd. a good place to source for CCTV components. If you're doing the installation yourself make sure you get good quality cables and connectors. Try to get a single dedicated power supply to provide DC to all your cameras and avoid the individual plug-in power supplies which tends to be unreliable.
Yes, you can save a lot if you do the installation yourself or at least engage an electrician to run the cabling for you instead of using a CCTV installer.


Added on February 22, 2012, 8:41 am
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Optional Item:
Safety Photo Beam Sensor -RM180
Siren Horn with 12V Delay - RM45
Additional Antispy Remote Control -RM60
Out of these options the only useful one is the Remote.
The Safety beam sensor always gets confused during heavy rain
The siren horn I really don't see the point.

One useful feature that some remotes have is a main-switch bypass. I.e. if you're going out and you don't want to allow your maid to open the door from within the house, you can activate the main-switch by-pass via the remote.

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post Feb 22 2012, 08:47 AM

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Any vendor around kajang area who carry DCMoto or Mag arm type autogate?


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post Feb 22 2012, 08:55 AM

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Out of these options the only useful one is the Remote.
The Safety beam sensor always gets confused during heavy rain
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Your own experience towards the sensor?

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post Feb 22 2012, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 22 2012, 08:33 AM)
I find Pasar Rd. a good place to source for CCTV components.  If you're doing the installation yourself make sure you get good quality cables and connectors. Try to get a single dedicated power supply to provide DC to all your cameras and avoid the individual plug-in power supplies which tends to be unreliable.
Yes, you can save a lot if you do the installation yourself or at least engage an electrician to run the cabling for you instead of using a CCTV installer.


Added on February 22, 2012, 8:41 am

Out of these options the only useful one is the Remote.
The Safety beam sensor always gets confused during heavy rain
The siren horn I really don't see the point.

One useful feature that some remotes have is a main-switch bypass. I.e. if you're going out and you don't want to allow your maid to open the door from within the house, you can activate the main-switch by-pass via the remote.
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Yup. My contractor charges me RM50 per point CCTV/Network for the conceal piping & I provided him the RG59 cable (with Power Supply) & RJ45 network cable. Save quite alot I would say because outsider may charges you more than RM150 per point.

For the sensor part, it's true also. But I'm not sure whether it has temperature sensor as well for human being? Moreover, maintenance cost may be high as well. tongue.gif

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post Feb 22 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 22 2012, 09:17 AM)
Yup. My contractor charges me RM50 per point CCTV/Network for the conceal piping & I provided him the RG59 cable (with Power Supply) & RJ45 network cable. Save quite alot I would say because outsider may charges you more than RM150 per point.

For the sensor part, it's true also. But I'm not sure whether it has temperature sensor as well for human being? Moreover, maintenance cost may be high as well.  tongue.gif
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the sensor just an infrared beam sensor with operating range of 10m, up to my knowledge, infrared beam is not triggered by rain
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post Feb 22 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 22 2012, 09:21 AM)
the sensor just an infrared beam sensor with operating range of 10m, up to my knowledge, infrared beam is not triggered by rain
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Not sure if the sensor has improved, mine was over 2 years ago and my gate would occasionally get stuck during very heavy rain. I got feed-up and disabled the damn sensor. Anyway, as long as your gate's over-current cut-off is correctly calibrated your gate should stop whenever it hits an obstacle.
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post Feb 22 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 22 2012, 09:37 AM)
Not sure if the sensor has improved, mine was over 2 years ago and my gate would occasionally get stuck during very heavy rain.  I got feed-up and disabled the damn sensor. Anyway, as long as your gate's over-current cut-off is correctly calibrated your gate should stop whenever it hits an obstacle.
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icic, so you are using the DCMoto sensor for 2 years and facing that issue rite? For the over-current cuf-off, is still have some issue of momentum when the motor is stopped, I saw my neighbour one, he is installing the DC Moto 905, when it was fully open, and stop at the max point, although the motors are stopped, however the swing gate still have some momentum and hit the pillar, therefore need to install stopper near the pillar to avoid cracking in long run
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post Feb 22 2012, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 22 2012, 09:52 AM)
icic, so you are using the DCMoto sensor for 2 years and facing that issue rite? For the over-current cuf-off, is still have some issue of momentum when the motor is stopped, I saw my neighbour one, he is installing the DC Moto 905, when it was fully open, and stop at the max point, although the motors are stopped, however the swing gate still have some momentum and hit the pillar, therefore need to install stopper near the pillar to avoid cracking in long run
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My gate is not DCMoto, however I suspect these sensors are all the same generic sensors. In your neighbor's case, they should adjust the hi/low speed timing so that the gate slows down before I approaches the pillar.

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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 22 2012, 10:03 AM)
My gate is not DCMoto, however I suspect these sensors are all the same generic sensors. In your neighbor's case, they should adjust the hi/low speed timing so that the gate slows down before I approaches the pillar.
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ic, I saw the gate is pretty low speed d as it take 12 sec instead of max 8 sec to close the gate, but problem still remain the same
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 22 2012, 10:07 AM)
ic, I saw the gate is pretty low speed d as it take 12 sec instead of max 8 sec to close the gate, but problem still remain the same
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If set correctly, the gate should slow down an lose momentum before it slams into the stopper. Nevertheless the stopper will need changing every 3-4 years as it's only made of rubber and will become brittle from our weather. It's not a very expensive item.
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post Feb 23 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 08:42 PM)
Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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Bro, mind sharing the nice price for Casa Asia as well? Where is ya friend located and did he mentioned what after sales he gives?
Anyway, apart from being a little silent than DCMOTO, what other features does it have, eg. anti-spy remote, etc?
Have you decide yet which brand and model you get?


Added on February 23, 2012, 12:41 pmAnyone here uses or used Casa Asia S-320H autogate? Pls share ya experience. Tq.

This post has been edited by scouser7: Feb 23 2012, 12:41 PM
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post Feb 23 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(scouser7 @ Feb 23 2012, 12:08 PM)
Bro, mind sharing the nice price for Casa Asia as well? Where is ya friend located and did he mentioned what after sales he gives?
Anyway, apart from being a little silent than DCMOTO, what other features does it have, eg. anti-spy remote, etc?
Have you decide yet which brand and model you get?


Added on February 23, 2012, 12:41 pmAnyone here uses or used Casa Asia S-320H autogate? Pls share ya experience. Tq.
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RM150 different than DCMoto, you do the math. tongue.gif In fact, this is my friend contact, mean I haven't meet him in person. Moreover, my house is just started renovation. So, have to wait at least 3 months from now then I can install the autogate system.

Which one I choose? DCMoto 1 year warranty but Casa Asia 2 years warranty. Plus silent motor. What do you think with RM150 different? About the Anti-Spy remote... I see the Casa Asia remote control is same like DCMoto but this didn't mentioned in Casa Asia website. So I can't confirm, may be people who install this can share info to us? smile.gif

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 23 2012, 02:26 PM)
RM150 different than DCMoto, you do the math.  tongue.gif In fact, this is my friend contact, mean I haven't meet him in person. Moreover, my house is just started renovation. So, have to wait at least 3 months from now then I can install the autogate system.

Which one I choose? DCMoto 1 year warranty but Casa Asia 2 years warranty. Plus silent motor.  What do you think with RM150 different? About the Anti-Spy remote... I see the Casa Asia remote control is same like DCMoto but this didn't mentioned in Casa Asia website. So I can't confirm, may be people who install this can share info to us?  smile.gif
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Thanks for ya reply.
Yup, i didnt see it in Casa website as well about any anti-spy remote but the rest looks the same as DCMOTO. But the 2 year warranty is value for money for me. Did ya friend say what does the warranty cover?
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QUOTE(scouser7 @ Feb 23 2012, 03:49 PM)
Thanks for ya reply.
Yup, i didnt see it in Casa website as well about any anti-spy remote but the rest looks the same as DCMOTO. But the 2 year warranty is value for money for me. Did ya friend say what does the warranty cover?
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Didn't ask in details about warranty, but I think normally Auotgate system is covering the Motor System only with motherboard only. Correct me if I'm wrong. tongue.gif
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Lighting will not be cover for any warranty unless stated. This is common. Also got human error it will not be cover. Like bang and push open the gate and broke the arms or gear box all this will not be cover.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 23 2012, 05:21 PM)
Lighting will not be cover for any warranty unless stated. This is common. Also got human error it will not be cover. Like bang and push open the gate and broke the arms or gear box all this will not be cover.
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Yup. Forget about Lightning Strike also.

But here warranty is covered even Lightning Strike.

GASS Autogate
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 23 2012, 05:29 PM)
Yup. Forget about Lightning Strike also.

But here warranty is covered even Lightning Strike.

GASS Autogate
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Does anyone know on which company that does the gate and auto gate system apart from Unigate ?
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 23 2012, 05:29 PM)
Yup. Forget about Lightning Strike also.

But here warranty is covered even Lightning Strike.

GASS Autogate
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Lightning strike usually prone to installations where there's a relay to light up a light at the side pillar. When lightning strikes it usually fries the main circuit board.


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