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post Mar 6 2024, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 2 2024, 12:49 PM)
any review for giti sport s2, the thread kinda looking a good design with very deep center groove
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From Primacy 3 to Giti Sport S2. Dry and wet grip feels about the same with occasional spirited drives. However, Giti feels stiffer and a little noisier
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post Mar 8 2024, 04:20 PM

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Anyone here experience on replacing ps4 to other tyre that similar performance? And great price too. Looking for 235/40 R18. TQ
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post Mar 9 2024, 10:59 PM

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hi guys, want to ask regarding hankook ventus prime 4 and continental UC7, which is better?

i read online that UC7 is quite quiet, how VP4 compare to it in terms of quietness
bibon27
post Mar 11 2024, 11:49 PM

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X50 user here, currently 62k mileage on uc6 tyres
Looking between michelin primacy 4 and hankook ventus prime 4

Oscar tyre price
Primacy 4 560
Ventus prime 4 360

Isit worth the extra money for michelin?
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post Mar 12 2024, 11:16 AM

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I have a 2016/17 Proton Iriz and have been advised by my Proton mechanic to change my tyres as it's showing wear and it hasn't been replaced since 2020. I have not modded my car and use it mainly for city driving. Also, I don't intend to buy new rims.

1. Is there any benefit to getting bigger tyres?
2. If yes, what sizes are recommended?
3. Whether yes or no, any recommended brands I should use? I do want to keep it on a low budget.
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post Mar 12 2024, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(botak91 @ Mar 12 2024, 11:16 AM)
I have a 2016/17 Proton Iriz and have been advised by my Proton mechanic to change my tyres as it's showing wear and it hasn't been replaced since 2020. I have not modded my car and use it mainly for city driving. Also, I don't intend to buy new rims.

1. Is there any benefit to getting bigger tyres?
2. If yes, what sizes are recommended?
3. Whether yes or no, any recommended brands I should use? I do want to keep it on a low budget.
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What is the size of your tires?

How many inch are the wheels/rims?

The stock wheels are also not that wide. There is a limit on how much wider tires you can fit
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post Mar 12 2024, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(bibon27 @ Mar 11 2024, 11:49 PM)
X50 user here, currently 62k mileage on uc6 tyres
Looking between michelin primacy 4 and hankook ventus prime 4

Oscar tyre price
Primacy 4 560
Ventus prime 4 360

Isit worth the extra money for michelin?
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for that price of primacy.. it is cheap..
include installation, alignment, balancing, rubber valve ?
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post Mar 12 2024, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 12 2024, 02:00 PM)
for that price of primacy.. it is cheap..
include installation, alignment, balancing, rubber valve ?
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If the price is for 18 inch tires, it is considerably a good deal

However, whether it is worth it or not, depends on the user.

There is a RM200 price difference per tire, as the total difference is RM800 for 4 pcs of tires.

The difference is too big to ignore the value that VP4 brings.

A much fair comparison should be between UC7 & Primacy 4, since the price is closer & performance wise should be closer as well.

Whether it is worth to fork out a bit extra over the extra performance of Primacy 4 over UC7 (comfort & competent braking performance even when worn)

This post has been edited by amscouzach57: Mar 12 2024, 04:54 PM
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post Mar 12 2024, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 12 2024, 03:29 PM)
If the price is for 18 inch tires, it is considerably a good deal

However, whether it is worth it or not, depends on the user.

There is a RM200 price difference per tire, as the total difference is RM800 for 4 pcs of tires.

It difference is too big to ignore the value that VP4 brings.

A much fair comparison should be between UC7 & Primacy 4, since the price is closer & performance wise should be closer as well.

Whether it is worth to fork out a bit extra over the extra performance of Primacy 4 over UC7 (comfort & competent braking performance even when worn)
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Tbf Hankook tyre was known as best all rounder and best bang for money for sure. Michelin Primacy was suit for those who prefer quiet tyre, but how quiet not sure cz Im using PS series.

My car last time equipped with Conti UC6 from new, my review this tyre were just poor on wet, not confident enough to drive at heavy rain. Not sure how much improvement made towards UC7 but I dont expect massive improvement on wet grip for UC7 or Continental tyre in general. If have budget take Michelin or no harm to take Hankook series tyre
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 12 2024, 03:29 PM)
If the price is for 18 inch tires, it is considerably a good deal
oh ya.. forgotten.. what is the inch biggrin.gif
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post Mar 16 2024, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 12 2024, 04:10 PM)
Tbf Hankook tyre was known as best all rounder and best bang for money for sure. Michelin Primacy was suit for those who prefer quiet tyre, but how quiet not sure cz Im using PS series.

My car last time equipped with Conti UC6 from new, my review this tyre were just poor on wet, not confident enough to drive at heavy rain. Not sure how much improvement made towards UC7 but I dont expect massive improvement on wet grip for UC7 or Continental tyre in general. If have budget take Michelin or no harm to take Hankook series tyre
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Exactly uc6 is pretty bad when it's wet, and uc7 doesn't have 215/55/18, so far only hankook and michelin
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post Mar 16 2024, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(bibon27 @ Mar 12 2024, 01:49 AM)
X50 user here, currently 62k mileage on uc6 tyres
Looking between michelin primacy 4 and hankook ventus prime 4

Oscar tyre price
Primacy 4 560
Ventus prime 4 360

Isit worth the extra money for michelin?
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Can try ask Klang Hin Leong is plan to change 4 pieces. Hin Leong quoted RM650 a piece for Michelin Primacy 4 SUV+ size 225 55 r19 include balancing only.
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QUOTE(Acoen @ Mar 2 2024, 02:07 PM)
Hi, looking for Falken tyre azenis Fk510 suv. Asking around in KL was quoted the below price:
225/55r19
fk510 @569
fk520 @670

Can anyone recommend tyre shop in Klang selling Falken tyre that can get better price? Planning to change 4 pieces
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Just to update, i have missed the offer for this price for 225 55 r1. This offer was before CNY time aduiii. Anyhow there is not enough stock from the same seller as i plan to change 4 pieces. Try to ask few Falken tyre shops also cannot get this outgoing model FK510 suv.

Ended replaced with Michelin Primacy 4 suv+ for Rm650 a piece with free balancing. Alignment got to pay extra RM37 at Klang Kee Hin. I pm thier FB to ask for the price one week ago and it was quoted RM630. When i arrived at thier shop, one of the supervisors said cannot get at that price anymore 😕

Maybe RM630 excludes balancing kut cos i didn't ask whether the price include balancing and alignment.
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post Mar 20 2024, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 12 2024, 01:18 PM)
What is the size of your tires?

How many inch are the wheels/rims?

The stock wheels are also not that wide. There is a limit on how much wider tires you can fit
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Current tyre size is 175/65 R14. I'm looking for similar handling but maybe better comfort; if I can improve both then it'd be awesome.
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post Mar 21 2024, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(botak91 @ Mar 20 2024, 09:13 AM)
Current tyre size is 175/65 R14. I'm looking for similar handling but maybe better comfort; if I can improve both then it'd be awesome.
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Iriz stock rim's width is 5.5". So, max. recommended tire width is 195mm.

If you want to increase the tire width, you can should be able to increase it to 185/65R14. The 2.2% increased size is within tolerance of 3%.

However, generally 185/65R14 tires are significantly more expensive than 175/65R14 tires.

In my opinion, the estimated gains should not be worth it.

You'll be better off getting a better tire. What tires are you using on your car, right now?
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post Mar 22 2024, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(zoixc @ Mar 9 2024, 10:59 PM)
hi guys, want to ask regarding hankook ventus prime 4 and continental UC7, which is better?

i read online that UC7 is quite quiet, how VP4 compare to it in terms of quietness
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UC7 should be quieter than VP4 but performance wise VP4 is better. VP4 is same category as CPC7 and Primacy 4.
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post Mar 22 2024, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Mar 22 2024, 09:20 AM)
UC7 should be quieter than VP4 but performance wise VP4 is better. VP4 is same category as CPC7 and Primacy 4.
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i see, currently using goodyear assurance triple max 2. quite noisy
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post Mar 25 2024, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(zoixc @ Mar 22 2024, 04:48 PM)
i see, currently using goodyear assurance triple max 2. quite noisy
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Goodyaer triple max 2 is a quiet tyre. If you found it noisy then the only choice for you is the primacy.
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post Mar 25 2024, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 21 2024, 08:36 AM)
Iriz stock rim's width is 5.5". So, max. recommended tire width is 195mm.

If you want to increase the tire width, you can should be able to increase it to 185/65R14. The 2.2% increased size is within tolerance of 3%.

However, generally 185/65R14 tires are significantly more expensive than 175/65R14 tires.

In my opinion, the estimated gains should not be worth it.

You'll be better off getting a better tire. What tires are you using on your car, right now?
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Just remembered to check, Yokohama BluEarth-Es ES32. Wondering if this is a good tyre or if there's other alternatives to look out for. I do like the ride so far but if I could reduce the road noise, I'd like that. Could just be the fact that Protons have bad sound insulation.
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post Mar 26 2024, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(botak91 @ Mar 25 2024, 10:44 PM)
Just remembered to check, Yokohama BluEarth-Es ES32. Wondering if this is a good tyre or if there's other alternatives to look out for. I do like the ride so far but if I could reduce the road noise, I'd like that. Could just be the fact that Protons have bad sound insulation.
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There is not much choices for 14 inchers.

If comfort you seek, Michelin Energy XM2+ would be your recommended choice.

However, your handling performance would be sacrificed, as your current tire is better in that aspect.

This post has been edited by amscouzach57: Mar 26 2024, 12:24 AM

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