I did a detail comparison here

Hopefully it helps

Hello, when you say makan do you mean there is no more tread depth? (1.6mm) ? Would be nice if you can either take a picture or measure the tread depth in all sides (shoulder center shoulder)

When I look into Subaru Forester, it seems that it is a AWD configuration. Do let me know if this is the same for your car. If its a AWD setup, rotating your tires does help at all. For your shoulder wear issues, this is quite common in SUV configuration but not as extreme as you said (1.6mm on shoulder and still have 50% in the center) So you might want to check your car camber setup to see if anything is wrong.

A detailed analysis can be done if you provide more data

When you dont feell anything at all then balance is right

With a 4 wheel drive configuration, yes Its a no brainer. Put the new tires on the rear.

This post has been edited by epjx31: Jul 25 2022, 11:21 PM

i recently switch the rear and front tyre around, same psi as before but can feel the steering vibrating a lot anything above 120km h.
i'm assuming i need to do the balancing of my tires again ?

When you rotate, did you not balance it?

Steering vibration could mean a lot of other things but since you rotate it just before might be worth to check it out.

no, didn’t balance as the tyre shop told me if no vibration then no need to do balancing

We have a beater Saga on 14' for staff attending on-site calls. Is it true there are no good grippy tires for the standard 14" wheel? Seems like they start at 15".

If 4 wheel drive or AWD you need balance tire treads to prevent early failure/wear of differential.
If the old & new 1 got wide tire tread thickness difference it may impact vehicle performance.
It is recommend to change all 4 tires and not just 2 new tires to the rear.

https://www.dunntire.com/blog/Tire-Replacem...nd-AWD-Vehicles

In fact, studies have shown that differences of just 2/32 of an inch in tire tread between tires on the same vehicle can impact vehicle performance. For example, if you were to replace just two tires on your AWD or 4WD vehicle, you would have a slightly larger diameter on the new tires, due to deeper tread. A small difference in the front and back tire diameter means the two axles are always turning at different speeds, even if the car is going straight down a highway. This is contrary to how the vehicle was designed to operate and will likely lead to early malfunction.

For all AWD/4WD system car or pickup the manual book always list to rotate the tires frequently and change all 4 at once. It is not recommended to just change either front or rear or just 1 pcs due to the reasons above.

The only way for owner to change only 2 tires is do tyre shaving by reducing the new tyre tread thickness to match the other 2 older tyre thickness or diameter, but this method is not common nowadays in Malaysia and consider a waste for new tyre. Only those old shop which do tyre celup in the past may still got these machine available, but newer shop a lot of them did not even knew about this method.

https://www.tyres.net/blog/entertainment/th...of-tyre-shaving

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 27 2022, 01:46 PM

When rotate it is better to at least do balancing for the front tires first, everytime i do rotate i will ask to check or do balancing for the front the cost is not much some only RM5~10/pcs.

oh i see, then i will get it balance this weekend before the long drive next week haha

thanks for the info

how many year a tyre can be use on road? been using xm2 for around 5 years but tread is still above the safety indicator

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/tips-and-a...ge-my-car-tyres

long ago i suka bs turanza 13" and 14"
not sure recent produce size for them or not

turanza also normal comfort base tires, the real performance stuff is the Potenza series.

If want sporty types tires for smaller size can try get Maxxis or special order Yokohama/Toyo tires from Japan.
If not mistaken i got friend using Yokohama Advan series for 14" kelisa, heard the price not cheap almost 2xx/pcs.

yeameh. turanza wet & dry grip is much better than potenza s001 u know.
advan fleva must avoid.

Some potenza series are consider semi-slick or summer max performance tires, if you get those tires usually sucks in wet but during hot day the grip is damn good. If you open your window can hear those sand sticking to the tires on hot weather, better dont use it during wet condition.

Can you share with us the basics of tire thread patterns which contributes to what performance criteria?

Especially, aquaplanning, dry grip, wet grip, road noise.

Hi , TS what do you think about Falken FK510 for 215/45/R17 as im currently on RE004 and it kinda noisy especially near end of their life, it last me 50k Km