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post Dec 28 2022, 11:13 PM

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Bridgestone er 33 or continental cc6 better? I’m term of noise and wet grip
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post Dec 29 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Dec 28 2022, 05:37 PM)
epjx31 bro what would you recommend for a 235/55/R19, 101V? Thx
Priority would be for wet handling
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Based on my price table :

Name Tire Size Price(RM)
Continental UC6 SUV 235/55R19 802

I have only one option, however when I search deeper there is also Toyo proxes CR1, Assurance MaxGuard SUV & MICHELIN PRIMACY 4 SUV

Wet handling wise it would be either UC6 SUV or Primacy 4 SUV.




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post Dec 29 2022, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(hidayat14 @ Dec 28 2022, 09:57 PM)
Thank you so much! Will check the thread depth. However my tire now are now coming near to three years and theres a slight crack on the sidewall. Not much actually. Should i be concern of it?
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tire usually can last up to 10 years so 3 years is really no issues.

Regarding the sidewall crack this is a safety issue. Could you take a picture so that I can have a look? --> this is usually serious and could lead to accident in worse cases.

If you have significant tread depth, you could replace the one with sidewall crack first (depending on the seriousness) & keep the other 3 tires.
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post Dec 29 2022, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Dec 28 2022, 10:08 PM)
Hi epjx31 and all,

Can recommend which tire for Ford Focus, size 215/45/R17?
Usage = driving for work daily, town area driving with heavy traffic
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Based on my price table, here are some options

Name Tire Size Price(RM)
Goodyear Assurance TripleMax 2 215/45R17 308
Toyo Nano Energy NE03 215/45R17 314
Kumho Ecsta PS31 215/45R17 343
Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 215/45R17 345
Continental UC6 215/45R17 (NEW UC7) 360
Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE004 215/45R17 365
Continental Max Contact 6 215/45R17 388
Michelin Primacy 4st 215/45R17 460
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 215/45R17 (NEW PS5) 480

Usage is on thing, but what is your main requirement? Wet, Mileage ? or value?

the new UC7 with major improvements at RM360 sounds like a bargain to me.

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post Dec 29 2022, 11:52 AM

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If tyres less used, should change after 5 years too? Mileage only 20k for 5 years.
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post Dec 29 2022, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kennykck @ Dec 28 2022, 11:13 PM)
Bridgestone er 33 or continental cc6 better? I’m term of noise and wet grip
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Hi there,

Bridgestone ER 33 is an OE product mostly for Infiniti, Lexus and Toyota sedans & SUVs. So it is not tested widely.

However CC6 is on the best in terms of noise this I know for sure.

I have no data about the wet grip for ER 33 so I can not comment on that.

What size are we talking about? are these your only 2 options? what is more important noise or wet grip?

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post Dec 29 2022, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Dec 29 2022, 11:52 AM)
If tyres less used, should change after 5 years too? Mileage only 20k for 5 years.
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First you have to ensure there is no visible cracks on the sidewall. You should do this anyhow every time you pump your gas.

Aside from that, your tires should be good for up to 10 years.

However you have to understand the trade off as tires are older, they tend to harden which will decrease their wet braking capability <5%. This should not be the main reason why you need to change tires smile.gif

However after 10 years, you should definitely consider to change just to be on the safe side due to various oxidation & degradation effects.
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post Dec 29 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 29 2022, 11:54 AM)
Hi there,

Bridgestone ER 33 is an OE product mostly for Infiniti, Lexus and Toyota sedans & SUVs. So it is not tested widely.

However CC6 is on the best in terms of noise this I know for sure.

I have no data about the wet grip for ER 33 so I can not comment on that.

What size are we talking about? are these your only 2 options? what is more important noise or wet grip?
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My tyre size is 215 60 R16. Xm2 is quite expensive compared the 2.
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post Dec 29 2022, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 29 2022, 11:45 AM)
tire usually can last up to 10 years so 3 years is really no issues.

Regarding the sidewall crack this is a safety issue. Could you take a picture so that I can have a look? --> this is usually serious and could lead to accident in worse cases.

If you have significant tread depth, you could replace the one with sidewall crack first (depending on the seriousness) & keep the other 3 tires.
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Here are pictures from all of the tires.

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post Dec 29 2022, 01:08 PM

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hidayat14

That's not the sidewall. It's just the edge of the tyres. That peeling is normal for Michelin tyres.

Sidewall is where those tyres details and branding were.

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post Dec 29 2022, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 29 2022, 01:08 PM)
hidayat14

That's not the sidewall. It's just the edge of the tyres. That peeling is normal for Michelin tyres.

Sidewall is where those tyres details and branding were.
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Exactly right. Free free to use your Michelin's for a much longer time smile.gif

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post Dec 29 2022, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 29 2022, 02:40 PM)
Exactly right. Free free to use your Michelin's for a much longer time smile.gif
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I agree. Tyre still good for use.
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post Dec 29 2022, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Dec 28 2022, 10:25 PM)
What are your priorities? Price? Performance? Comfort?

Cheapest options which give decent performance:
- Maxxis Victra i-Pro
- Nexen SU4

Best Overall Performance:
- Michelin PS5

Best Comfort:
- Michelin Primary 4
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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 29 2022, 11:49 AM)
Based on my price table, here are some options

Name Tire Size Price(RM)
Goodyear Assurance TripleMax 2 215/45R17 308
Toyo Nano Energy NE03 215/45R17 314
Kumho Ecsta PS31 215/45R17 343
Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 215/45R17 345
Continental UC6 215/45R17 (NEW UC7) 360
Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE004 215/45R17 365
Continental Max Contact 6 215/45R17 388
Michelin Primacy 4st 215/45R17 460
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 215/45R17 (NEW PS5) 480

Usage is on thing, but what is your main requirement? Wet, Mileage ? or value?

the new UC7 with major improvements at RM360 sounds like a bargain to me.
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Toyo CR1 is my goto alternative for comfort and quiet. But no where near quiet as Primacy.
Do they still have NE3?
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post Dec 29 2022, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 29 2022, 01:08 PM)
hidayat14

That's not the sidewall. It's just the edge of the tyres. That peeling is normal for Michelin tyres.

Sidewall is where those tyres details and branding were.
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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 29 2022, 02:40 PM)
Exactly right. Free free to use your Michelin's for a much longer time smile.gif
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QUOTE(dudester @ Dec 29 2022, 03:11 PM)
I agree. Tyre still good for use.
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post Dec 29 2022, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Dec 29 2022, 03:16 PM)
Toyo CR1 is my goto alternative for comfort and quiet. But no where near quiet as Primacy.
Do they still have NE3?
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CR1 should be the upgrade & supercedes NE3.
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post Dec 29 2022, 09:39 PM

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Hi I have 2 cars, both FWD. is it true that if we only have limited budget to change 2 tyres we should put the new tyres on the rear wheels?

I prioritize braking performance especially in wet.

Next for 185/65r15, Grand Livina, I have been using xm2, if i want long mileage and good wet grip, what is the recommendation?

For a Honda Civic with FF, 215/55r16 what would you recommend for comfort, range, braking and value?

Thank you
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post Dec 29 2022, 10:35 PM

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Normally when tyre will have promotion like buy 3 free 1?
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post Dec 30 2022, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(kennykck @ Dec 29 2022, 10:35 PM)
Normally when tyre will have promotion like buy 3 free 1?
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based on my observation, these are mostly reserved for china tires sad.gif

It sounds like a nice strategy but consumers aint dumb, they know how to use the calculator smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2022, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 30 2022, 11:37 AM)
based on my observation, these are mostly reserved for china tires sad.gif

It sounds like a nice strategy but consumers aint dumb, they know how to use the calculator smile.gif
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Nope. Saw lim Tayar just offer xm2 with this promo, but ended recently
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post Dec 30 2022, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 29 2022, 09:39 PM)
Hi I have 2 cars, both FWD. is it true that if we only have limited budget to change 2 tyres we should put the new tyres on the rear wheels?

I prioritize braking performance especially in wet.

Next for 185/65r15, Grand Livina, I have been using xm2, if i want long mileage and good wet grip, what is the recommendation?

For a Honda Civic with FF, 215/55r16 what would you recommend for comfort, range, braking and value?

Thank you
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A few questions inside your post, but i like it smile.gif

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There are 2 train of thoughts here when you have a new pair of tires.

If you want to maximize safety, you should always put it on the rear as rear aquaplaning is a big risk (see video link here )

If you want to maximize for cost, you should put in the front as you will wear faster for FWD to save your rotation cost. But in my eyes this should be avoided at all cost.
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For your 185/65R15, based on my price table

Name Tire Size Price(RM)
Viking CityTech CT6 185/65R15 198
Goodyear Assurance TripleMax 2 185/65R15 212
Dunlop SP Sport J6 185/65R15 218
Continental ComfortContact 6 CC6 185/65R15 253
Michelin Energy XM2+ 185/65R15 266

With your wet vs mileage requirements, I would highly go for XM2+. How much mileage did you get for XM2?
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For your 215/55r16, based on my price table

Name Tire Size Price(RM)
Toyo Nano Energy NE03 215/55R16 325
Goodyear Assurance TripleMax 2 215/55R16 398
Continental UC6 215/55R16 (UC6) 470
Michelin Primacy 4st 215/55R16 510

With your requirement "comfort, range, braking and value" I would suggest Triple Max 2.




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