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TSepjx31
post Dec 4 2022, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(man @ Dec 4 2022, 11:15 AM)
Hello TS. I'm surveying for new set of 205/55/16.
Looking for best value and longest mileage, but reasonable performance.
Currently using maxxis, but it worn out quite fast.
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Hi, would your be so kind to fill in the tire mileage review form ? Thanks

205/55R16 is the most popular size where practically every manufacturer has a product in this size. Sometimes even 2 ! You can check the price table here. There are about 10 tirelines. My recommendation is XM2+ as it has the best balance in terms of wear and wet braking. Certainly value for money in my opinion.
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post Dec 4 2022, 11:26 PM

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I’ve been running semi-slicks on public road, and i think I can’t ever go back to normal tyres like pilot sport 5, as that tyre just cannot keep up with my big brake kit, and activates abs so early, really rendering some perks of my bbk useless.

Any unknown downsides on semi slick for public road? I only know

1.tire wear is extremely short (20k if don’t have too much aggressive weekend drives, or 1.5yr~ for tyre life).

2.shitty wet grip, well i take that as a good thing as i’ll slow the fk down when it’s raining, heck even before moving to semislick i already very prone to aquaplane with 275 wide tyre.

3.a need to always make sure/aware of tyre temp/ is warmed up before any huge cornering forces is applied.

4. Nvh? But hell I don’t care about nvh in a car, i got a proper house to properly appreciate a peaceful quiet time, a car is to drive not to live in.

5. Annoys the fuck outta your fellow friends behind you with the amount of sand/stones your sticky tyre will throw at them

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post Dec 4 2022, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Dec 4 2022, 11:26 PM)
I’ve been running semi-slicks on public road, and i think I can’t ever go back to normal tyres like pilot sport 5, as that tyre just cannot keep up with my big brake kit, and activates abs so early, really rendering some perks of my bbk useless.

Any unknown downsides on semi slick for public road? I only know

1.tire wear is extremely short (20k if don’t have too much aggressive weekend drives, or 1.5yr~ for tyre life).

2.shitty wet grip, well i take that as a good thing as i’ll slow the fk down when it’s raining, heck even before moving to semislick i already very prone to aquaplane with 275 wide tyre.

3.a need to always make sure/aware of tyre temp/ is warmed up before any huge cornering forces is applied.

4. Nvh? But hell I don’t care about nvh in a car, i got a proper house to properly appreciate a peaceful quiet time, a car is to drive not to live in.

5. Annoys the fuck outta your fellow friends behind you with the amount of sand/stones your sticky tyre will throw at them
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less skill to learn. becos grip is adequate.
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joshgm_119
post Dec 5 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 4 2022, 02:12 PM)
Hi, would your be so kind to fill in the tire mileage review form ? Thanks

205/55R16 is the most popular size where practically every manufacturer has a product in this size. Sometimes even 2 ! You can check the price table here. There are about 10 tirelines.  My recommendation is XM2+ as it has the best balance in terms of wear and wet braking. Certainly value for money in my opinion.
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Hey TS

Just out of curiosity as I had a look at your price list. I notice Potenza RE004 and Michelin PS3 has been omitted from your list.
I was looking specifically at 195/50/R15.

Is there a reason for this?

Cheers!
TSepjx31
post Dec 5 2022, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Dec 4 2022, 11:26 PM)
I’ve been running semi-slicks on public road, and i think I can’t ever go back to normal tyres like pilot sport 5, as that tyre just cannot keep up with my big brake kit, and activates abs so early, really rendering some perks of my bbk useless.

Any unknown downsides on semi slick for public road? I only know

1.tire wear is extremely short (20k if don’t have too much aggressive weekend drives, or 1.5yr~ for tyre life).

2.shitty wet grip, well i take that as a good thing as i’ll slow the fk down when it’s raining, heck even before moving to semislick i already very prone to aquaplane with 275 wide tyre.

3.a need to always make sure/aware of tyre temp/ is warmed up before any huge cornering forces is applied.

4. Nvh? But hell I don’t care about nvh in a car, i got a proper house to properly appreciate a peaceful quiet time, a car is to drive not to live in.

5. Annoys the fuck outta your fellow friends behind you with the amount of sand/stones your sticky tyre will throw at them
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Hi thanks for your question. Seems like an interesting topic so i will try to answer you point by point.

1. the wear is optimized for track use, hence you cant compare it like this. But the tire is much softer hence suffer in wear performance. Usually you will only last 1-2 days of track usage.
2. Based on my article below which I compare Michelin Pilot Sport 4S vs Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 here , there is a 20% wet reduction. For sure the best way to avoid aquaplaning is to reduce your speed.
3. Your point is valid for all tires as well smile.gif
4. Based on the test results, there is no much difference. I even think that semi slick would be much better noise due to a lower void.
5. Haha, to be honest nobody can escape these stones. smile.gif
TSepjx31
post Dec 5 2022, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(joshgm_119 @ Dec 5 2022, 11:25 AM)
Hey TS

Just out of curiosity as I had a look at your price list. I notice Potenza RE004 and Michelin PS3 has been omitted from your list.
I was looking specifically at 195/50/R15.

Is there a reason for this?

Cheers!
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Good point, I could not find a valuable source but there is no valid reason.

Nonetheless, you should see RE004 prices from tomorrow. smile.gif


claudetan
post Dec 7 2022, 07:34 AM

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Using 4 yokohama blueearth ES tyres before but hit some metal piece on the road and 1 tyre bursted.

Workshop didn't have the same tyre and i forced to get a triplemax 2, workshop said the thread pattern similar.

However, when i sent my car to SC, the service advisor claims that not all tyre same, hence it cant be balanced/aligned, is it true?


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post Dec 7 2022, 11:09 PM

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Is tyre counterfeit common in Malaysia? How to check whether genuine or not?
Replacing accord 2010 all 4 tyres tomorrow. For 1k budget, any recommendations?
TSepjx31
post Dec 8 2022, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(legendgod @ Dec 7 2022, 11:09 PM)
Is tyre counterfeit common in Malaysia? How to check whether genuine or not?
Replacing accord 2010 all 4 tyres tomorrow. For 1k budget, any recommendations?
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Hey sorry for the late reply, if i am not wrong, your tire size is 225/50R17?

Based on my price table here :

Kumho Ecsta PS31 225/50R17 364
Goodyear EfficientGrip 225/50R17 420
Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 225/50R17 425
Continental UC6 225/50R17 (NEW UC7) 488
Continental Max Contact 6 225/50R17 515
Michelin Primacy 4st 225/50R17 568
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 225/50R17 (NEW PS5) 630

Unfortunately, none of them meet your 1k budget sad.gif

If budget is your main concern, Goodyear EfficientGrip could be a good choice.

The question is what is your main requirements?
TSepjx31
post Dec 8 2022, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(legendgod @ Dec 7 2022, 11:09 PM)
Is tyre counterfeit common in Malaysia? How to check whether genuine or not?
Replacing accord 2010 all 4 tyres tomorrow. For 1k budget, any recommendations?
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Regarding counterfeit, I think this is hardly an issue in Malaysia as tires are not so easily produced.

Just stick to reputable shops & stay away from China tires if this is your main concern
TSepjx31
post Dec 8 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(claudetan @ Dec 7 2022, 07:34 AM)
Using 4 yokohama blueearth ES tyres before but hit some metal piece on the road and 1 tyre bursted.

Workshop didn't have the same tyre and i forced to get a triplemax 2, workshop said the thread pattern similar.

However, when i sent my car to SC, the service advisor claims that not all tyre same, hence it cant be balanced/aligned, is it true?
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At first thought this sounds very BS.

But thinking it thoroughly, this could happen if the extra tire's uniformity data is out of this world.

However maybe you can convinced them to try first and show you the data why this can not happen.
Eugene91
post Dec 8 2022, 09:47 PM

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I’m looking at replacing my Silverstone NS800 185/55/15 that came with my Saga MC1 2020 now that it’s almost 23k km mileage.

Was thinking of:
UC6
Xm2+

Would prefer something that’s a balance of comfort (noise) and grip. Any other recommendations?

This post has been edited by Eugene91: Dec 8 2022, 09:47 PM
TSepjx31
post Dec 8 2022, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 8 2022, 09:47 PM)
I’m looking at replacing my Silverstone NS800 185/55/15 that came with my Saga MC1 2020 now that it’s almost 23k km mileage.

Was thinking of:
UC6
Xm2+

Would prefer something that’s a balance of comfort (noise) and grip. Any other recommendations?
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Hey first of all would you be so kind to fill up the Tire mileage review ?

Based on my price table here,

Toyo Nano Energy NE03 185/55R15 198
Goodyear Assurance TripleMax 185/55R15 204
Continental ComfortContact 6 CC6 185/55R15
232
Michelin Energy XM2+ 185/55R15 280

CC6 is well known for its good noise capabilities.

However xm2+ would still be the top choice due to its wet braking and mileage balance
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post Dec 11 2022, 04:20 AM

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Hello forum Sifu

anyone try yet Goodyear Assurance ComfortTred? Quite new in the market a few months old
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post Dec 11 2022, 10:49 PM

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Hello epjx31,

I'm planning to replace my current 2 pcs Michelin PS4 tyre, main requirement is wet grip & handling.

I read your site & narrow down 205/55/r16 size, Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport best fit my budget. The reason I give up ps4 because of the price (rm100 extra/pcs) and the cracking/chipping issue.

I saw alot of recommendation on Michelin xm2 plus, but I don't really need a long mileage tyre.

Awaiting your suggestion. Thanks in advance.
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post Dec 12 2022, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(crixalisrox @ Dec 11 2022, 10:49 PM)
Hello epjx31,

I'm planning to replace my current 2 pcs Michelin PS4 tyre, main requirement is wet grip & handling.

I read your site & narrow down 205/55/r16 size, Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport best fit my budget. The reason I give up ps4 because of the price (rm100 extra/pcs) and the cracking/chipping issue.

I saw alot of recommendation on Michelin xm2 plus, but I don't really need a long mileage tyre.

Awaiting your suggestion. Thanks in advance.
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Hi there,

I had a quick look and F1 sport seem like a good choice. Based on its brochure, its wet braking is the same as asymmetric 5 see PS4 vs asymmetric 5

In my opinion sounds like a good choice if you are going for wet without regards for mileage performance.

Don't forget to put your fresh pair or tires at the rear.

Hopes this helps.

Eugene91
post Dec 13 2022, 11:40 AM

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Thanks for the info. What about Toyo Proxes CR1 against XM2+ in terms of wet grip ?

QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 8 2022, 11:29 PM)
Hey first of all would you be so kind to fill up the Tire mileage review ?

Based on my price table here,

Toyo Nano Energy NE03 185/55R15 198
Goodyear Assurance TripleMax 185/55R15 204
Continental ComfortContact 6 CC6 185/55R15
232
Michelin Energy XM2+ 185/55R15 280

CC6 is well known for its good noise capabilities.

However xm2+ would still be the top choice due to its wet braking and mileage balance
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post Dec 13 2022, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(epjx31 @ Dec 8 2022, 11:15 AM)
Hey sorry for the late reply, if i am not wrong, your tire size is 225/50R17?

Based on my price table here :

Kumho Ecsta PS31 225/50R17 364
Goodyear EfficientGrip 225/50R17 420
Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 225/50R17 425
Continental UC6 225/50R17 (NEW UC7) 488
Continental Max Contact 6 225/50R17 515
Michelin Primacy 4st 225/50R17 568
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 225/50R17 (NEW PS5) 630

Unfortunately, none of them meet your 1k budget sad.gif

If budget is your main concern, Goodyear EfficientGrip could be a good choice.

The question is what is your main requirements?
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215/60/16 bro..2010 model
anyway I changed to Goodyear triplemax 2.. 1400 for all 4 ..good price?

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post Dec 13 2022, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(legendgod @ Dec 13 2022, 12:06 PM)
215/60/16 bro..2010 model
anyway I changed to Goodyear triplemax 2.. 1400 for all 4 ..good price?
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Goor price same as my table.

By the way could you be so kind to fill in the tire mileage info about your old tires ?

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TSepjx31
post Dec 13 2022, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 13 2022, 11:40 AM)
Thanks for the info. What about Toyo Proxes CR1 against XM2+ in terms of wet grip ?
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I am pretty sure xm2+ will be better:)

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