is sumitomo bc100 sufficient for spirited driving for a 2.0 car with around 160hp?
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Jul 17 2024, 10:19 AM
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is sumitomo bc100 sufficient for spirited driving for a 2.0 car with around 160hp?
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Jul 17 2024, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Jul 11 2024, 04:39 PM) Dear epjx31, Personally, PS4 is the top UUHP/Max Performance tires in market beating even the newest PS5 tire in term of performance. 215/45R17 Toyota Altezza RS200 Michelin PS4 Front left tyre got punctured on the sidewall. Yesterday learned from 1 tiktok video: tyre sidewall damage cannot be repaired. Looking to replace front 2 tyres. Drive style comfort and relax, car for balik kampung during weekend. Considering 1. Maxxis Ipro Vitra <- High Performance (Malaysia Maxxis website claim it is UHP) 2. Bridgestone RE004 <- Max Performance 3. Ventus Prime 4 <- Premium Touring 4. Ventus S1 evo3 - closest dimensions is 205/45R17 <- Max Performance Max Performance/UUHP > High Performance > Premium Touring Appreciate your advise. Thank you. If you can let go of the higher performance and go for comfort and relax style you will need to downgrade to premium touring type tires. In the list only Ventus Prime 4 is in that premium touring category, the rest is either in Max performance or UHP tires range. This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 17 2024, 11:23 AM pandikar liked this post
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Jul 17 2024, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2024, 11:17 AM) Personally, PS4 is the top UUHP/Max Performance tires in market beating even the newest PS5 tire in term of performance. Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE004 should be an entry level UHP. Above this tire should be Bridgestone Potenza Sport.If you can let go of the higher performance and go for comfort and relax style you will need to downgrade to premium touring type tires. In the list only Ventus Prime 4 is in that premium touring category, the rest is either in Max performance or UHP tires range. Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3 K127 is also a UHP tire. Above this should be the new Hankook Ventus S1 Evo Z K129 |
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Jul 18 2024, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2024, 11:17 AM) Personally, PS4 is the top UUHP/Max Performance tires in market beating even the newest PS5 tire in term of performance. If you can let go of the higher performance and go for comfort and relax style you will need to downgrade to premium touring type tires. In the list only Ventus Prime 4 is in that premium touring category, the rest is either in Max performance or UHP tires range. QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 17 2024, 09:54 PM) Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE004 should be an entry level UHP. Above this tire should be Bridgestone Potenza Sport. Thank you for your feedbacks.Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3 K127 is also a UHP tire. Above this should be the new Hankook Ventus S1 Evo Z K129 This post has been edited by pandikar: Jul 18 2024, 08:26 AM amscouzach57 liked this post
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Jul 18 2024, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 17 2024, 10:54 PM) Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE004 should be an entry level UHP. Above this tire should be Bridgestone Potenza Sport. You may go into this website link and check the tire category for the related 1. Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3 K127 is also a UHP tire. Above this should be the new Hankook Ventus S1 Evo Z K129 https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Bridgestone/ Potenza RE004 is in Max Performance category, Only the old RE040 is in UHP tires. https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Hankook/ S1 all series are in Max Performance already, only the old Evo V12 is in UHP This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 18 2024, 08:51 AM |
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Jul 18 2024, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 18 2024, 08:48 AM) You may go into this website link and check the tire category for the related 1. No idea why tyre manufacturers downgrade for the latest of their productshttps://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Bridgestone/ Potenza RE004 is in Max Performance category, Only the old RE040 is in UHP tires. https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Hankook/ S1 all series are in Max Performance already, only the old Evo V12 is in UHP |
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Jul 18 2024, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 18 2024, 12:25 PM) Max Performance is higher category than UHP, i believe is upgraded. 1.Track/Competition 2.Extreme Performance 3.Max Performance/UUHP 4.UHP (Ultra High Performance) 5.High Performance 6.Premium Touring This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 18 2024, 11:44 AM |
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Jul 18 2024, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2024, 11:17 AM) Personally, PS4 is the top UUHP/Max Performance tires in market beating even the newest PS5 tire in term of performance. Is it a good idea to pair Maxxis Victra IPRo or Hankook Ventus Prime 4 at one end with Michelin PS4 at the other end?If you can let go of the higher performance and go for comfort and relax style you will need to downgrade to premium touring type tires. In the list only Ventus Prime 4 is in that premium touring category, the rest is either in Max performance or UHP tires range. Should I choose tyres that are equal/almost equal to PS4 i.e. Bridgestone RE004 or Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3? |
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Jul 18 2024, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Jul 18 2024, 03:41 PM) Is it a good idea to pair Maxxis Victra IPRo or Hankook Ventus Prime 4 at one end with Michelin PS4 at the other end? You can pair, but if you into hard driving or cornering at high speed better dont, as different tires might got different limitation. Especially the rear tires will need better performing tires to help. If your putting the lower performing tires in the front maybe still can.Should I choose tyres that are equal/almost equal to PS4 i.e. Bridgestone RE004 or Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3? pandikar liked this post
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Jul 18 2024, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Jul 18 2024, 02:41 PM) Is it a good idea to pair Maxxis Victra IPRo or Hankook Ventus Prime 4 at one end with Michelin PS4 at the other end? how much more bunga you have in your ps4?... if >50% can try find used ps4... tahan until change all 4...Should I choose tyres that are equal/almost equal to PS4 i.e. Bridgestone RE004 or Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3? since you don't drive aggressive, should be ok to pair good touring tires... pandikar liked this post
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Jul 18 2024, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jul 18 2024, 03:31 PM) how much more bunga you have in your ps4?... if >50% can try find used ps4... tahan until change all 4... Think >80%, because after put on PS4 , travelled only 19,500km before realize front left sidewall punctured.since you don't drive aggressive, should be ok to pair good touring tires... Or should I replace the punctured one with used PS4? This post has been edited by pandikar: Jul 18 2024, 03:41 PM |
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Jul 18 2024, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Jul 18 2024, 03:40 PM) Think >80%, because after put on PS4 , travelled only 19,500km before realize front left sidewall punctured. if me >80% i will try find a used ps4... where are you from?Or should I replace the punctured one with used PS4? im shopping for new shoes can try look out for you... actually i would even consider buying a new one... This post has been edited by dwRK: Jul 18 2024, 04:40 PM pandikar liked this post
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Jul 18 2024, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jul 18 2024, 04:22 PM) if me >80% i will try find a used ps4... where are you from? Go to FB marketplace, many sell the used 1-2 years old tyre with decent looking tread at affordable price. But there are also seller who still selling 5 years old tyre there, too old tyre is not okim shopping for new shoes can try look out for you... actually i would even consider buying a new one... |
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Jul 18 2024, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 18 2024, 05:27 PM) Go to FB marketplace, many sell the used 1-2 years old tyre with decent looking tread at affordable price. But there are also seller who still selling 5 years old tyre there, too old tyre is not ok ya have to be carefulowners usually asking too much... by the time lower price tire old liao... shops just wanna make quick buck clear stock, but depends also if they have pairs or single... |
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Jul 18 2024, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jul 18 2024, 04:22 PM) if me >80% i will try find a used ps4... where are you from? Thank you for your recommendations.im shopping for new shoes can try look out for you... actually i would even consider buying a new one... I am from Penang. Found used PS4 on Shopee. RM240 each. Minimum order 2 pcs. Not worth it. At that price, might as well buy new Maxxis Victra IPRo. If lower-tier tyre is not an issue to couple with PS4, I plan to put Maxxis at the front. This post has been edited by pandikar: Jul 19 2024, 08:04 AM |
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Jul 19 2024, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Jul 18 2024, 06:36 PM) Thank you for your recommendations. me kl... a bit hard to help liao... lol...I am from Penang. Found used PS4 on Shopee. RM240 each. Minimum order 2 pcs. Not worth it. At that price, might as well buy new Maxxis Victra IPRo. If lower-tier tyre is not an issue to couple with PS4, I plan to put Maxxis at the front. yes you can mix any tyre for normal driving but in case of emergency braking handling may be more difficult and unpredictable... drive carefully should be ok pandikar liked this post
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Jul 21 2024, 03:17 PM
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hai boss, tolong listkan tayar Traction AA untuk 195/50/15 dan 195/55/15. dan apa awak recommend sebagai TOP 3 overall?
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Jul 21 2024, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(zroter @ Jul 21 2024, 03:17 PM) hai boss, tolong listkan tayar Traction AA untuk 195/50/15 dan 195/55/15. dan apa awak recommend sebagai TOP 3 overall? For street tires,My preferrence: Michelin Pilot Sport 3 Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE004 Maxxis Victra I-Pro zroter liked this post
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Jul 22 2024, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 21 2024, 04:33 PM) For street tires, harga saya dapat, Saga 2024:My preferrence: Michelin Pilot Sport 3 Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE004 Maxxis Victra I-Pro 185/55/15 (X) Kumho Ecsta PS31 // (X) Michelin Pilot Sport 3 195/50/15 (X) Kumho Ecsta PS31 (180) Maxxis Victra I-Pro // (180) Kinto Forza 001 (230) Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 (360) Michelin Pilot Sport 3 harga saya dapat, Myvi 2022: 195/55/15 (178) Maxxis Victra I-Pro // (188) Kumho Ecsta PS31 (215) Kinto Forza 001 // (240) Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 (291) Pirelli Cinturato Rosso (325) Michelin Pilot Sport 3 This post has been edited by zroter: Jul 22 2024, 03:53 PM |
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QUOTE(zroter @ Jul 22 2024, 10:16 AM) harga saya dapat, Saga 2024: IMHO, in this list, the only tires worth considering is Michelin PS3 & Maxxis Victra I-Pro.185/55/15 (195) Kumho Ecsta PS31 (255) Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 (321) Michelin Pilot Sport 3 195/50/15 (190) Maxxis Victra I-Pro // (195) Kumho Ecsta PS31 (215) Kinto Forza 001 (255) Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 // (298) Michelin Pilot Sport 3 harga saya dapat, Myvi 2022: 195/55/15 (178) Maxxis Victra I-Pro // (188) Kumho Ecsta PS31 (215) Kinto Forza 001 // (240) Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 (291) Pirelli Cinturato Rosso (325) Michelin Pilot Sport 3 |
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