First of all.. hi everybody.. first time posting in this thread.... whoa! V4 oledi.. congrats!

Planning to buy a 2nd CT for my 1st car lorr.. hopefully after raya... after collect angpow raya that is oso gonna go CT hunting this weekend..

any tips on selecting a 2nd hand CT?? any common CT technical/interior/etc issue i can chk before I get one?

really hope to join ure ranks soon !

Wah! this one confirm ah? thot that only Vtec units got the steermatic.. now im all out to buy a 3rd gen i-dsi city

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 5 2007, 02:30 AM

Lol! welcome to the MYclub! hahah future 2nd hand CT owners!

im also planning to get the 2004 nighthawk black CT... but im settling for an i-dsi... me oso tight budget maa.. dun want to eat pasir every mth paying for high monthly installments for me car... idsi save on fuel.. hv to compensate for lack of pwr lorr.. when got money can upgrade

price range frm wht ive surveyed:

03 idsi - less than 54K
04 idsi - 57-59K

vtec dun know much.. will try to hv a look dis weekend.. if can get under 60K may consider

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 5 2007, 02:56 AM

Whats the price range of a 04 vtec CT ah? did any survey?

yeah.. just 88bhp.. but.. but.. fuel consumption is better thats my point!

but really man, if i got a little more budget, surely i go for vtec.. no compromise.

one thing i like abt honda is that they dont treat their lower line models so cheap, like other makes.. frm what i know, the only main diff for 3rd gen CT is just only the Vtec engine, rims, disc brakes, cd/mp3 player (correct me if im wrong). they really dont cut out on the 'important' stuff like a/bags and abs.. summore the 3rd gen oso hv steermatic as u said..

so if u prefer an idsi (like me ) you wont be feeling left out like driving a 'cheapest' honda CT.. imho laa...

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 5 2007, 03:15 AM

Actually new CT you can get for as low 2.0% interest (4th gen), but new FL only can get abt 2.2%... i chked last week.. oso comes with abt RM1.5K discount..

of course newer car better value.. but my monthly pay dont got any value lorr i'm maxed at 3.82% @ 7yrs 2004 idsi/vtec ride... if up summore surely gonna makan pasir, batu, and rumput. Too much financial commitment nowadays

58K for an Aug 04 idsi is quite good.. But really can ask Honda Showrooms for 2nd hand cars ah? if like that better ask showroom.. hmmm why didnt i thot of that b4...? stoopid me..

dude.. can you tell me abt the cvt 'dying' thing... how to know?? really afraid.. heard that if ure CVt busted, repair cost reaches 20K!! any means to chk up on the CVT? any indications tht the CVT gonna kong??

do tell me abt the CVT issue k..

indeed heard a lot abt this.. can anyone tell me how to "get a good chk on the CVT gbox"? send to SC is out of question coz havent bought yet rite? How can I make sure when Test-driving? is there any fluid indicators? any form of way the car drives if CVT rosak? jerking when shifting? cannot shift? etc?

really don want to be conned by these 2nd car dealers / owners..

so if you buy a 55K 2nd City.. expect that you are paying 60-65K lorr? ... darn.. seems like buying a new car a lot more worthy...

really worried now..

hey to all CITY enthusiasts.. can share with us soon to be owners any common problems you face with your CT??

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 5 2007, 03:47 PM

why not just buy a new 4th Gen? 4th Gen I-dsi still got steermatic.. only the new FL dont got one... interest at 2.1% sumore..


well said fren.. will go to honda service center as soon as buy d 2nd car.. dont mind spend a bit just for a piece of mind..




Wooooot!..... gonna go CT hunting tomorrow! must bring big gun to shoot down my future 'wife'

I mean the 4th gen b4 this whole new facelift sh1t.. the 2006 models.. i-dsi all got steermatic.. and honda still selling em.. lower interest rates than new 4th gen facelift (2.3%).. and lesser waiting time compared to new FL versions.. some may take up to 2-3mths!

yep.. went to honda showroom in puchong.. but didnt ask much.. coz no money

thanks for the info! will take note of this jerking and lag in acceleration when i testdrv today..


yolar dude.. at nearly 100K.. can even buy 2 units of 2003 idsi CT

so me thinks, rather than buying new CT that cost 100K plus intesrt why not buy 2 2003 CT?? .. joking

seriously.. cars are getting damn impossibly expensive nowadays! crazy...

new facelift think dun hv the discount.. not sure.. the discount you hv to ask the SA lorr.. try to bug him around..

the 4th gen pre-FL one i think got the discount, maybe to clear out stock.. so depends on the SA or showroom you go.. coz each maybe got different strategy.. some might give discounts on v-kool tinting.. some might give cash discounts.. so better ask the SA thoroughly.. but when u already sign the agreement and such, surely the SA's wont entertain you much




anyways... whole day went hunting for a Nighthawk Black 2003 or 2004 idsi CT... I FOUND NONE! scoured 2nd hand dealers in Selayang, Jalan Kuching, Jalan Ipoh, Batu Caves but to no avail.. called adverts in mototrader also to no avail, all sold out!!?? really damn hard to find 2nd hand black CT's !! black CT really hot stuff ah?....but the maroon, gold, silver colors bersepah!

CT owners are mysterious

AUX jacks are for external audio device connections.. in this case your ipod

Hmm.. like notorius said, you can get aftermarket kits for arnd rm900, arnd 2K with paint+installation, A lot more models/shapes to choose frm.. but it all comes down to your preference.. if you feel safer with original modulo kits and hv the money.. then by all means go for the ori-modulo, but if youre on a tight budget and got nothing to spare, then better get the aftermarket one to save 2-3K of your muney.. just me 2 cents.. it all up to you..

New Vios and current City?.. ofF-course if you ask here, ppl will say go for the city.. Im a Vios to City convert myself.. i thot that vios's looks were damn appealing compared to the some-what peculiar CITY design.. but i came to grow fond of it in time.. summore for the same price range of both cars

- CITY may be better technology+safety wise imho.. the base CT idsi (79K) has dual Airbags, 7speed semi-auto/steermatic, CVT, but lacks the pick-up power of the vios's VVT-i engine (88bhp compared to 1xxbhp).. but compared to a V-tec.. its another story.. summore idsi is a quite the fuel saver rite?

- The NEW Vios 1.5E real basic model (78K), only has driver air-bags, and normal 4speed auto transmission, summore same engine as previous generation vios (1NZ-FE). the looks now seem to be CITY-ish (bloating front, slender rear).. so looks factor also out you only get the real deal at the 1.5G and 1.5S which are 85K and 88K respectively.. with this you can already get a CT vtech (85K).. better p4mance, better technology... imho

FYI, i am not bashing toyota. i am just merely doing some comparison, which is biased to the CT. Goodluck on getting a new car! im just stuck with buying a 2nd CT..


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Just back frm another City testdrv... I got a deal on this 2004 idsi CT, with mileage only 20,810km!! with complete honda service records (last service July 2007), smooth flawless engine, for RM57800... is this a reasonable price?? but this one silver loorrr... nice plate no too W** 9966 what you guys think??
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This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 7 2007, 02:37 PM

Yup.. tried to kaw-tim to 57K.. but no can do lerr.. coz the dealer said low mileage and car in damn good condition.. just minor scratches on the body and rims due to 3yrs of wear & tear.. other than that, flawless.. think im gonna go book this one fast

my choice also 1st black.. then silver.. but considering this car's mileage and condition.. hmm... then again, 2nd black CT's are too hard to find...

had great time with the steermatic function.. floored the car until reach 7speed gear.. damn nice.. woohoo.. smooth transmission all the way! CVT is damn nice! much better than my brother's vios 4speed just love the transmission w/out the occasional jerking..

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 7 2007, 02:58 PM

Youre absolutely correct.. on friday i called this used car dealer abt his black 03 idsi (v-kool, xenon lights, 66K km done).. went there yesterday morning.. sold already.. damn fast.. Black CT are real hot-cakes... and vios are also hard to find..

nope.. no mechanic loo.. just some advice i get frm CT owners here and there.. then i judge my self.. NVH, acceleration, engine vibration, handling comfort, CVT smoothness, etc..

so u decided on a new or 2nd CT bro???

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 7 2007, 03:20 PM

Yup.. black idsi 2004 3G... got ah? can you give me link? thx

lemme see.. the dealer quoted me this:

Financier: Hong Leong Bank

Interest rate (7yrs): 3.4-3.5% (max)

Inspection fees (Puspakom + Finance inspection): RM200

Change ownership fees: RM400

Processing fees (finance-dealer): RM450

For insurance, my NCD is 0 coz b4 this using xtra family car only, so this is my 1st car insurance: RM1800+-

So you need extra RM2K la to actual selling price...


dunno the actual fees price range.. but are these fees to expensive???

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 7 2007, 03:54 PM

yeah.. any sifus know what are the std processing and change ownership fees? dun wan to be conned

CRAP!

you mean this whole load of fees are bsh1t???

ok, puspakom RM77 me thinks, dunno abt the finance inspection.. is there really a 'finance car inspection'?

road tax still valid, so shuld be arnd RM100 wang post? so if cost greater than this i'm being conned rite?

what abt the processing fees...? is there such a thing as bank processing fees?

damn! must be the SA marking up his personal profit!!

nearly got conned...

any ideas how i can counter this? should i stand up to this SA?

really want this low mileage CT.. the car is really a gem! damn good tiptop condition..

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 7 2007, 11:04 PM

Thanks for he info dude... i think theyre using these runners to do their job.. Will try and clarify with the finance itself abt this.

ok.. will do..

but as you said, "...before you commit yourself to signing those papers for that low-mileage city 3rd gen".. are you implying that there's sumthing fishy abt this car?

.. darn it.. so many doubts and fear comes to my mind now..

Not really.. as some say the difference btwn paying for a new CT and a 2nd CT is around 100-200.. to some people this might be not much, but for other groups of people, 100-200 is so much needed to ease off other burdens each month(children, health, etc). If youre a young bachelor owning 2K++ who lives with your parents and got no other commitments in life other than partying and hangging out wit friends, 800-900 a month wont be a bother to you...

Some people also want to at least use a decent quality car, a one worth putting your hard earned money into, rather than cheap new cars that lack safety, comfort, build quality... even if they have to go buy 2nd hand ones. Even some old 2nd hand cars are far much better and need much less maintanence than a few new cars... imho. its not that i say a CT has top notch quality, but when compared, even a 2003 CT has a more comfortable interior that a brand New Hyundai Getz for the same price.

whoaa! a 2005 Vtec for 56500?? nice catch bro.. really hard to find that kinda deal. The dealer/owner desperate ka? damn nice. the actual 2nd hand market price for such car is much higher around 65K rite? you saved nearly 10K.

yeah, ive double chked with some other car dealers, and their processing fees and such came back the same, more or less.. i think that's the only way car 2nd hand car dealers can survive with the current market today..

the best way to avoid this is to settle loan on your own.. ah well..

This post has been edited by Fasap: Oct 8 2007, 12:31 PM

damn dude... what were you thinking???

56500 for a 2005 vtec... damn crazy lorr..

yo dude.. you getting the new vios now? thot dat u were planning on a new city?? change of heart ah?