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 SG Savings Bond (SSB) & Treasury Bills (T-bills), Guaranteed by Singapore Government

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post Mar 3 2023, 10:48 AM

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SSB application details from BT 020323.

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post Mar 4 2023, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Feb 27 2023, 09:45 AM)
T-bill above 3.9% not attractive for you? hmm.gif
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Bank FD 4% and above that time so I go for FD. Now T-bill alot of CPF investment so rate drop below 4%. Recent climb backup to 3.98% hmmm
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post Mar 4 2023, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jan 15 2023, 07:34 PM)
Bro TOS, pls shout out if you find rates increasing, add 1 buy...I no syiok, Jan 2023 yield low, man. But just hold lah, better than 0%. Kamsiah. Happy New Year.

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Rates increasing as you wished.

https://www.ilovessb.com/
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post Mar 7 2023, 03:19 PM

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This week's MAS Bill auction results:

Tenure4-week12-week
Cut-off yield3.9%3/95%
Median yield3.83%3.88%
Average yield3.39%3.27%
BTC ratio2.262.41

Source:

4-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-10

12-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-10

Both 1-month and 3-month MAS bill COY below 4%. Response is cooler compared to last week yet COYs are lower.

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My first 6M T-bill bought last year matures today. Principal will be credited after 5pm supposedly.

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post Mar 9 2023, 07:51 PM

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ilovessb.com may soon include T-bills and SGS securities stuffs, which will be helpful for newcomers to SG's risk-free space.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146612514


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post Mar 10 2023, 05:36 PM

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OCBC, UOB customers can tap CPF funds to buy T-bills online from Mar 31 and Apr 22 respectively

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...s-online-mar-31

There's a paywall, but no worries, I will post the whole article in 2 days time when the physical newspaper is available at my uni's library.

This post has been edited by TOS: Mar 10 2023, 05:37 PM
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post Mar 10 2023, 07:31 PM

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https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...bonds-on-fsmone

fsmone can trade US and SG government bond online now
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post Mar 10 2023, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Mar 10 2023, 07:31 PM)
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...bonds-on-fsmone

fsmone can trade US and SG government bond online now
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Be mindful it's twice (min. commissions/fees) as expensive as IBKR. (10 USD vs 5 USD)
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post Mar 10 2023, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 10 2023, 07:36 PM)
Be mindful it's twice (min. commissions/fees) as expensive as IBKR. (10 USD vs 5 USD)
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Only 0.1% if u invest more than 10k
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post Mar 10 2023, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 10 2023, 05:36 PM)
OCBC, UOB customers can tap CPF funds to buy T-bills online from Mar 31 and Apr 22 respectively

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...s-online-mar-31

There's a paywall, but no worries, I will post the whole article in 2 days time when the physical newspaper is available at my uni's library.
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What are the fees for UOB?
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post Mar 10 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Mar 10 2023, 07:56 PM)
Only 0.1% if u invest more than 10k
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10k USD is not a small amount. tongue.gif

And another thing important for you to know. I could be wrong, but insider sources mentioned to me that FSM bonds are "not even held on a custodian basis", so everything is in FSM's name (i.e., on FSM/iFAST's balance sheet).

Buying bonds on FSM platform implies a "private agreement" between you and FSM. If FSM/iFAST went bankrupt, you have to "go to court to show that you have a private arrangement with FSM", as the source asserts.

This is different from IBKR, whose holdings are segregated in a custodian account separated from the broker's holding company.

*Retail investors often forget about counterparty risk.*

QUOTE(zebras @ Mar 10 2023, 07:57 PM)
What are the fees for UOB?
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Are you referring to cash purchase of SG T-bills or purchase via CPF?

Cash purchase is free on primary market provided you have CDP account. You can of course purchase the bills in secondary market via SG brokers or FSM.

For CPF-OA investments, you need to open a CPFIS account at one of the 3 local banks (DBS, UOB, OCBC) before you can purchase T-bills from primary market. https://investmentmoats.com/saving-and-inve...ills-sgs-bonds/

All 3 local SG banks have quarterly custodian fees of about 2 SGD. See links below.

DBS: https://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resources/media...ule_charges.pdf

OCBC: https://www.ocbc.com/personal-banking/inves...estment-account

UOB: https://www.uob.com.sg/personal/invest/fina...nt-account.page

You are welcome to join your SG friends over at HWZ if you would like to know more: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...769601/page-629

This post has been edited by TOS: Mar 12 2023, 06:03 PM
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post Mar 12 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 10 2023, 05:36 PM)
OCBC, UOB customers can tap CPF funds to buy T-bills online from Mar 31 and Apr 22 respectively

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...s-online-mar-31

There's a paywall, but no worries, I will post the whole article in 2 days time when the physical newspaper is available at my uni's library.
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As promised, the full article shown below:

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post Mar 13 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 9 2023, 07:51 PM)
ilovessb.com may soon include T-bills and SGS securities stuffs, which will be helpful for newcomers to SG's risk-free space.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146612514
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The site is ready: https://www.ilovessb.com/sgs

Source: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146663759
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post Mar 13 2023, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 10 2023, 07:36 PM)
Be mindful it's twice (min. commissions/fees) as expensive as IBKR. (10 USD vs 5 USD)
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So which is the best and cheapest way to purchase SSB or T-bills?
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post Mar 13 2023, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Mar 13 2023, 05:13 PM)
So which is the best and cheapest way to purchase SSB or T-bills?
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Buy from primary market, i.e. directly from DBS/UOB/OCBC via their online portal.

Free of charge for T-bills, 2 SGD charge per purchase/redemption for SSB.

But again, this is limited to those with CDP account only.
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post Mar 14 2023, 03:00 PM

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This week's MAS Bill auction results:

Tenure4-week12-week
Cut-off yield3.98%3.83%
Median yield3.7%3.72%
Average yield3.36%3.28%
BTC ratio2.022.29

Source:

4-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-17

12-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-17

Both 1 month and 3 month are surprisingly cooler than last week, 1 month BTC almost dropping below 2.
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post Mar 15 2023, 05:48 PM

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FXFA screenshots for tomorrow's 6M T-bill auction (bid ends tonight at 9 pm).

Offshore EuroSing

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Onshore

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The rates are pretty low at 3.2-3.5% p.a. Not sure if the FXFA settings have been changed... But this round of auction may throw some downside surprises. One should be mentally prepared.

I double-check with Bloomberg's quote for the latest price for 6M T-bill issued 2 weeks ago. The rates are about 3.8-3.9% p.a.

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MAS published 3.91% as the closing yield for the T-bill issued 2 weeks ago, for reference.

https://eservices.mas.gov.sg/statistics/fda...ssuePrices.aspx

This round I bid 3.85% p.a. tongue.gif Tomorrow ikanbilis will post the result here.

This post has been edited by TOS: Mar 15 2023, 06:20 PM
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post Mar 15 2023, 10:49 PM

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I think tomorrow's number auction number will be messed up...

US 6 month yield just collapsed 4%... a 20-basis-point jump down...

https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-...onth-bond-yield
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post Mar 15 2023, 11:58 PM

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Expected Fed fund rates are collapsing rapidly. Reinvestment risk is rising.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-mark...YQbBAHlXQibfCvI

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post Mar 16 2023, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 15 2023, 05:48 PM)
FXFA screenshots for tomorrow's 6M T-bill auction (bid ends tonight at 9 pm).

Offshore EuroSing

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Onshore

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The rates are pretty low at 3.2-3.5% p.a. Not sure if the FXFA settings have been changed... But this round of auction may throw some downside surprises. One should be mentally prepared.

I double-check with Bloomberg's quote for the latest price for 6M T-bill issued 2 weeks ago. The rates are about 3.8-3.9% p.a.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


MAS published 3.91% as the closing yield for the T-bill issued 2 weeks ago, for reference.

https://eservices.mas.gov.sg/statistics/fda...ssuePrices.aspx

This round I bid 3.85% p.a. tongue.gif Tomorrow ikanbilis will post the result here.
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Cut off yield 3.65%. doh.gif

I did not apply this time round. bye.gif

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