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https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pac...elicopter-deal/

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Those buying Russian arms could be hit with sanctions under the U.S. law Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. The law was passed in 2017 and is meant to discourage governments or entities from acquiring weapons as well as military hardware and parts from American adversaries like Iran, North Korea and Russia.


Lets see who is willing to test this out!
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Havent read the rest of SG news due to time constraint.

But this is so significant im not sure it was posted before:

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/parli...service-1959571

In short Sg has set up a fourth military service i.e. the Digital Digital and Intelligence Service ( i think this was previously known as SAF's Cyber Command) in addition to the conventional 3 i.e. Army, Navy and Air Force.

This will allow SG to channel additional resources and monies to cyber warfare and defence. More importantly, this will allow SG to assign tens of thousands of digitally literate and competent mandatory NS conscripts from SG's highly acclaimed polytechnics and universities to just focus on cyber warfare and defence aka cyber troopers in addition to regular cyber troops.

I dont know how much more I cannot underline the significance of Singapore's move. They are literally evolving an entire army of hackers and cyber defenders without necessarily having the need to pay billions more for its defence budget (2022 defence budget - $USD 12.1 billion).

In this age, cyber warfare can win and lose wars without a shot being fired. Cyber troopers can disrupt/blind and destroy both military and civilian facilities, spread disinformation, spread chaos and kill soldiers and civilians.





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Stuxnet - an example of just one cyber attack.

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PT PAL launched Indonesian Navy new and 2nd Hospital Ship KRI dr. Radjiman Wedyodiningrat-992.


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INDONESIA'S FIRST C-130J-30 SUPER HERCULES ROLLED OUT

By Dave Allport  14th August 2022

Lockheed Martin has completed production of the first Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU, Indonesian Air Force) C-130J-30 Super Hercules.

The US manufacturer released an image of the aircraft on August 6 after it had been fully painted in TNI-AU markings. It carries the last two digits (‘39’) of the serial number on the nose. Although the full serial has not yet been confirmed, it seems likely that it will be A-1339, following on from A-1338, the last of nine acquired from the Royal Australian Air Force. An image released on September 7, 2021, showing the cockpit section for the first TNI-AU aircraft on the production line in Marietta, Georgia, showed construction number 5951 and it is assumed that this is the same airframe.

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The Indonesian Air Force’s first C-130J-30 Super Hercules being rolled out of the paint shop on August 6. Lockheed Martin

Indonesia had been considering purchasing the type for some years and although there were rumours of a deal having been agreed, nothing was officially announced until the image of the cockpit under construction was released. At that time, Lockheed Martin finally made the deal public, saying that a contract for five Super Hercules had been agreed as a direct commercial sale, although it remains unconfirmed whether all are the stretched C-130J-30 variant. This was finalised in 2019. First delivery is anticipated in early 2023.


Read more: https://www.key.aero/article/indonesias-fir...ules-rolled-out



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Amazing.


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https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/opini/2022080...empur-rafale-cs

‎Indonesia has signed a contract to procure 42 Rafale fighter jets made by Dassault Aviation on February 10, 2022. The moment occurred during the visit of the (then) Minister of the Armed Forces of France Florence Parly. The contract value was € 5.8 billion, while when referring to data from the Indonesian side, the acquisition of Rafale cost US$ 7 billion, including logistical support but not including weapons. Of the 42 Rafale fighter jets, six of them use the 2021 Funding Source Determination (PSP) allocation for the Ministry of Defense worth US$ 1.1 billion. Now the challenge is how to provide a Pure Companion Rupiah (RMP) for the program so that the contract can enter an effective status. ‎

‎Indonesia and France's defense cooperation is regulated in the Defense Cooperation Agreement (DCA) signed by Indonesian Minister of Defense Prabowo Subianto and Minister of the Armed Forces Florence Parly on June 28, 2021 in Paris. The acquisition of Rafale included part of the DCA, in addition to the purchase of Scorpene-class submarines. Efforts to realize the procurement of the Rafale are now a touchstone for Indonesia in maintaining diplomatic relations with France, especially after France was let down by Australia after the Kangaroo Country cancelled the contract for the acquisition of 12 diesel-electric submarines. Indonesia is now an important gamble for France as part of the country's efforts to strengthen its presence in the Indo-Pacific region as outlined in the France and Security in the Indo-Pacific document published in 2019.‎

‎Regarding efforts to realize the planned acquisition of 42 Rafale, the issue of availability of budget allocations is a critical matter that needs to be considered. As of June 2022, orders for 42 Rafales from Indonesia have not been recorded in Dassault ‎‎Aviation's order backlog‎‎. Indonesia still needs a Foreign Loan (PLN) of US$ 5.9 billion to bring home 36 Rafales and their logistical support, but they do not cover weapons. Of the total PLN allocation for the 2020-2024 period for the Ministry of Defense of US$ 20.7 billion set by the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas, a pure loan of US$ 17.6 billion, the remaining US$ 3.1 billion must be provided by Indonesia because it is an RMP fund. ‎

‎The 2021 PSP, which consists of 35 activities, has absorbed US$ 7.7 billion from the overall allocation of US$ 20.7 billion, so that the remaining PLN allocation is US$ 13 billion. In the latest development, the Ministry of Defense has plans to divert 12 activities out of 35 activities with a value of US$ 1.3 billion. To meet the contractual obligations of purchasing 36 Rafales, it means that there are a number of procurement programs in the 2020-2024 Foreign Loan Plan List (DRPLN) that must be cancelled and the funds reallocated for the procurement of Rafale fighter jets. The question is, what activities will be cancelled and which batches belong to for the sake of the 36 Rafale? ‎

‎Another way for the purchase of 36 Rafale to run but not sacrifice other activities in DRPLN is the additional PLN allocation from the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas and the Ministry of Finance. Whether there will be additional PLN allocations for the Ministry of Defense depends largely on the inter-ministerial lobbying, the state's financial condition and government spending priorities. The plan to purchase 36 Rafale depends on the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas and the Ministry of Finance, will the 36 Rafale contract be included in the List of Foreign Loan Priority Plans (DRPPLN) which is followed by the issuance of PSP? Let's also not forget the external political aspect, where Indonesia's failure to fulfill its promise to acquire 36 Rafale will affect France's belief in Indonesia's reliability as a partner. ‎

‎On the other hand, the Ministry of Defense still has ambitions to purchase used fighters in a program known as the Interim MRCA. After failing to bring home Austria's Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, now the ministry once led by General M. Jusuf is about to buy mirage 2000-5 and or Mirage 2000-9 from countries in the Persian Gulf. The PLN value required for the two types of fighters made by Dassault Aviation is US$ 734.5 million, including logistical support. PLN of US$ 734.5 million does not include the construction of mirage fighter jet operational support facilities in Indonesia. ‎

‎In accordance with the prevailing customs in Indonesia, the construction of supporting facilities always uses Pure Rupiah from the State Budget. It is not yet known how many billions of Rupiah will be needed by the Air Force to build Mirage operational support facilities if the Ministry of Defense acquires used fighter jets from the Middle East. The reason behind the planned procurement of fighter jets that in 1986 competed with the F-16A/B to compete for the Indonesian market was the lack of number of Indonesian fighters so that it needed a ‎‎stop gap‎‎ in the short term. With the ‎‎stop gap‎‎, it is expected that the operational readiness of Indonesian fighter jets will be increased although the service life of the Mirage 2000-5 and Mirage 2000-9 is estimated to be only about 10 years to the next 15 years. ‎

‎Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense still has another program related to fighter aircraft, namely ‎‎upgrading‎‎ the 23 F-16C/D Block 25 to the Viper equivalent. The program has been included in the 2020-2024 DRPLN and is just waiting for the issuance of DRPPLN and PSP. Although pln's proposed allocation for the procurement of Mirage fighters and the F-16C/D ‎‎upgrade‎‎ program are different, but with the PLN ceiling set by the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas, the Ministry of Defense should prioritize the priority scale. In the economic dictum, resources are always limited so it needs priority in the use of available resources.‎

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Long story short - Indo signed on agreements with no funding. They are now having difficulty and are scrambling now trying to get foreign loans or cancel procurements.


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Anyone posted this?

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...2022-green-book

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Notably missing from the register are programmes to equip the Indonesian Air Force with Rafale multirole fighter aircraft from Dassault Aviation, and the Indonesian Navy with FREMM guided-missile frigates from Fincantieri. Contracts for these major equipment were signed in 2021.


Ive said b4 that more shoes r gonna fall off this centipede.




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Indonesian and US Army ASTROS & HIMARS MLRS live firing during Super Garuda Shield Exercise 2022. Indonesian & US Army also conducted Javelin missile live firing.



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Indo 2023 defence budget falls to USD $8.8-$8.9 billion from high of USD $9.3 billion in 2022.

https://www.cnnindonesia.com/ekonomi/202208...-jokowi-di-2023

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 16 2022, 05:47 PM)
Indonesian and US Army ASTROS & HIMARS MLRS live firing during Super Garuda Shield Exercise 2022. Indonesian  & US Army also conducted Javelin missile live firing.


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https://www.latinfinance.com/daily-briefs/2...-for-bankruptcy

No more Astross or related developments...
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Indonesian Army newly delivered Pindad Badak 6x6 FSV during recent platoon-level exercise.



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Indonesian Air Force new P6-ATAV V3 (All-Terrain Assault Vehicle) took part in Super Garuda Shield Exercise 2022.



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Indonesian & US Army ASTROS & HIMARS MLRS - Super Garuda Shield Exercise 2022. Credit to Yudha.

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