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atreyuangel
post Aug 13 2022, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 13 2022, 08:31 PM)
lol media tpi ko sendiri takde

takut kene tanya soklan ka Hisham oi!
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post Aug 15 2022, 01:01 AM

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Aug 16 2022, 07:22 PM
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post Aug 15 2022, 10:54 PM

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post Oct 10 2022, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(rafale_05 @ Oct 10 2022, 12:59 PM)
it's not direct via leonardo malaysia?
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Gading is the Malaysian agent and also the service adn technical partner for Leo
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post Oct 11 2022, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Oct 10 2022, 01:31 PM)
im confused. some said atr42 mpa.
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Yep, mula2 dengar 3 tapi when US grant us 3 MPS the number reduce to 2

tengok well ATR pun ialah preferred platfrom for Global-eye

QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 11 2022, 01:30 PM)
yang ni apa kaitan dengan Deftech? they are middleman?
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Anka?
Deftech is TAI agent and also appointed technical partner they have been promoting anka since 2015
basically most Turks defense tech have partnership with DRB

so no Sea-guardian for US, damn it what could have been
oh well at least dapat la geng2 ni jalan ngan duduk kursus kat New Orleans kejap
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post Oct 11 2022, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 11 2022, 05:54 PM)
?
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ehh sorry
Erieye

salah mata laugh.gif
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post Oct 13 2022, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Oct 13 2022, 04:25 PM)
memang betul2 salah mata

Please look at it clearly

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It is a Saab 2000 with ERIEYE radar, not ATR-72. Saab 2000 has low wings, while ATR-72 has high wings. Yes Saab also build civilian aircrafts.

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that is not least of my concern
with TUDM operating ATR the chances of them using a same platform for different types of equipment is high. So in this case the ATR and Erieye have a larger chances to be inducted into service with TUDM

see the bigger picture?
I'm sure the people in Gading does


btw tolak Gading/Leo aside, to all /k military tered poster

why do you think ATR MPA was chosen from all other contender that present themselves during LIMA2019?

anyone wanted to answer?
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post Oct 14 2022, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Oct 14 2022, 08:43 AM)
Why ATR was choosen?

What we know that TUDM specifically stated the speed that they wanted in the tender documents, that speed cannot be attained by the ATR-72. That speed requirement is something the CN-235 cannot achieve also. We also know that one of the interested contenders actually changed their initial proposal of using the ATR-72, to another faster aircraft due to the requirements listed out in the MPA Tender.

So
- TUDM wanted an aircraft faster than the CN-235. TUDM ideally wanted a jet platform, but its budget does not stretch to a jet aircraft.
- Many contenders wanted to use ATR-72, due to its size, price, and available support in our region. But ATR-72 operational speed is just comparable to the CN-235, and not what TUDM wanted as written in the tender documents.
- Some contenders upon learning of the speed requirement, even changed their initial offer of ATR-72 to another faster aircraft.
- In the end MENHAN announced that the winner is the ATR-72
- The ATR-72 MPA will perform missions with the same capability of the CN-235 MSA (similar speed, similar range), but with added cost and complexity of having to fly and maintain 2 totally different aircraft and mission systems.

The reason? Pick from below

- cronyism
- corruption
- kickbacks
- add your own
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nice try trying to riling it up!
they are the cheapest among the contenders in the race
nuff said.
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post Oct 18 2022, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(alexz23 @ Oct 18 2022, 06:02 PM)
ATR-72 wing is not designed to be able to have weapons pylons.

ATR-72 based MPA have only 2 fuselage pylons to carry torpedoes or other stuff. Compare that to 8 possible weapons pylons on CN-235.

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So you prefer spending hundreds of millions to have 2 platforms (CN-235 MSA & ATR-72 MPA) performing exactly the same missions so that in the future we will have to spend double the money on different spare parts and maintenance schedules ?

I don't care if we go for ATR-72 if theoretically we don't have the CN-235 MSA. But reality is that we now have those, and why bother going different?

Turkish navy even with 2 different platforms, the ASW systems for both are totally the same (Thales AMASCOS), so mission operators could fly in both aircraft, sitting in exactly the same work station, flying ASW missions.

What would happen with RMAF is 2 different aircraft, 2 different maritime patrol operating systems (CN-235 MSA with Cartenav, same as MMEA CL-415 and ATR-72 with Leonardo ATOS)
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yeah sorry to burst the bubble but we do not spend even a dime for a the CN MSA
even the training are part of the package

and for the ATR MPA, you've actually answered your own question,
no doubt that the MALTEM will be one of the factor beside the cost factor for the government to choose the ATR

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post Nov 2 2022, 01:58 PM

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anyone got a glimps of Fat Amy in Penang?

cc KLthinker91
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post Nov 2 2022, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 2 2022, 05:24 PM)
unfortunately I'm not there cry.gif

being in KL every Merdeka I get to see Su and Hornet
last time every August they fly practically outside my school window even biggrin.gif
nah
more likely looking for budget option because P-8 is the gold-plated option of them all
nah
SG-US ties are strengthening even more actually
saying there's an ethnic connection is like saying US and Africa abang adik because ramai blacks in US
lmao
total retard link
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if the OZ have a sortie in Kuantan Base I'll try to get or asked someone to get 1 sexy picture of amy for you laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 2 2022, 08:22 PM)
appreciated, but don't do it just for me babe
I'm not that young to go chasing hot curvy babes that break the sound barrier any more cry.gif
(maybe about twenty-five years ago biggrin.gif )
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post Jul 10 2023, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Jul 9 2023, 02:27 PM)
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RSS Impeccable, Type 218SG arrives in Sg (on Roll dock).

RSS Invincible will stay on in Germany for training of the crews of the remaining 3 Type 218Sg submarines and then be brought back to SG.

The Challenger class is expected to be retired. The Archer class will continue to be operated with the Invincible class for a bit more time until they are retired and likely replaced with 2 more Type 218SG.

So peak Sg submarine strength at anytime should be a full squadron of 6 Aip equipped SSKs.

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^ See last graphic and the first two photos.

Also; Interestingly RSN tries hard to not let the upper part of the submarine be seen and stacked containers around the submarine.

In fact, eagle eye observers noticed the small convoy being escorted by  a pair of F16Vs.
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arent picture of propeller is a major no-no?
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Mar 21 2024, 05:27 PM)
both of them got a point each
remember Lahad Datu?
we need to fill affidavit to use the Hornet along with the weapon system on the Tanduo
the affidavit were send directly to the US DOD and pretty much after the green light we light the Pilaks on fire

Why Hornet?
because of the know precision and the Air Force have much more simulated bombing run on Hornet then any other aircraft

that is why on 2015 we are very sure to bag the Super Hornet Block II.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 17 2024, 12:38 PM)

One notable example is the delayed Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) project by Boustead Naval Shipyard (BNS), which was recently renamed Lumut Naval Shipyard (LUNAS).
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The project commenced in 2013 and has faced significant delays and cost overruns.

None of the six ships had been delivered despite an initial deadline of 2019.

The mismanagement of the LCS project has eroded public trust in defence procurement processes and raised questions about the government’s ability to secure value for money in such deals.

The Malaysian government is responsible for engaging in open and honest dialogue with its citizens, explaining the rationale behind the decision and addressing any concerns.

By fostering trust and understanding, the government can demonstrate that it is acting in the nation’s best interests, carefully weighing the complex factors that influence defence procurement decisions in an ever-changing global landscape.

Source: US Approves Sale Of RM400 Million High-Tech Eye In The Sky To Malaysia
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mamat kedah lanie punya cerita
karang lepas isap gam ke hapa laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jun 14 2024, 09:15 AM)
kat Sipri tu ada tulis, menda la ngan mental rahsia negara ni
sekarang semua OSINT belaka

tuju kat original poster

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post Jun 24 2024, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jun 24 2024, 10:10 AM)
Balik je la Ceaser nih laugh.gif

QUOTE(s-works @ Jun 24 2024, 10:19 AM)
whats up with the su30 teardown?
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SLEP la abam
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Jul 7 2024, 10:55 AM)
Read the report?
Not trying to justify it
but most of the parts is old parts have met end of shelves life, there is major parts for the ships that the TDLM transferred to APMM
and the parts for the older tech before upgrade and SLEP

it was the MRO SOP during the purchase of the asset back then.
Heck even some parts of the MIG-29 still in storage and disposing them is not easy
and the level of disposing parts from the US is much strict.
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Guys who ever in Subang keep your eyes in the Sky

Subang AB is right now will be receiving Typhoon, Rafale and MKI
The French, Germany and Spain are for Pacific Skies while the India are coming back from PB
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anyone see the movie?
btw since I got to read the report on the 1313 skirmish I can say that the battle with the late ASP Mamat and his team is almost 80% accurate and the Simunul ambush is also almost the same especially on what they did to Arwah Koperal Azrul and I think is Arwah Aziz

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