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post May 10 2022, 12:58 PM, updated 4y ago

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I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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post May 10 2022, 01:00 PM

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Sedan. SUV will rollover at the slightest nudge.
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depends la, if you know how to travel light a sedan is more than enough.

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post May 10 2022, 01:01 PM

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post May 10 2022, 01:02 PM

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to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.


but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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post May 10 2022, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ May 10 2022, 01:00 PM)
Sedan. SUV will rollover at the slightest nudge.
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nobody ask u drive SUV like drive F1
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post May 10 2022, 01:04 PM

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Depends..are u an Ah Beng then look no further than Vellfire/Alphard

Sensible ppl buy a car your budget can afford & maintain properly over the long run. That’s the safest car.
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post May 10 2022, 01:05 PM

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Sedan settle.

what's your budget ?

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ May 10 2022, 01:00 PM)
Sedan. SUV will rollover at the slightest nudge.
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Mean SUV not stable? I plan drive slow only.

QUOTE(hotdayum @ May 10 2022, 01:00 PM)
SUV
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Reason?

QUOTE(ayamAnoob @ May 10 2022, 01:01 PM)
depends la, if you know how to travel light a sedan is more than enough.
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Ok.

QUOTE(Fenix98 @ May 10 2022, 01:01 PM)
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No interested. old car.


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post May 10 2022, 01:06 PM

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Wagon.
Sedan muatt stroller meh later
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ May 10 2022, 01:03 PM)
nobody ask u drive SUV like drive F1
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Drive like ahpek also, bloody myvi will come and hantam. Then rollover, break back and paralyzed for life.
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post May 10 2022, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.
but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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understand. but please no political.

QUOTE(Jasonist @ May 10 2022, 01:03 PM)
nobody ask u drive SUV like drive F1
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so u like SUV? why?

QUOTE(treblecase @ May 10 2022, 01:04 PM)
Depends..are u an Ah Beng then look no further than Vellfire/Alphard

Sensible ppl buy a car your budget can afford & maintain properly over the long run. That’s the safest car.
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Noted, any recommendation what car?

QUOTE(matrix88 @ May 10 2022, 01:05 PM)
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not safe to fetch kids.

QUOTE(metalfire @ May 10 2022, 01:05 PM)
Sedan settle.
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ok, any suggestion which car?
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post May 10 2022, 01:07 PM

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SUV..easier to carry child seat
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post May 10 2022, 01:07 PM

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of course sedan, no need to blind2 follow trend
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post May 10 2022, 01:08 PM

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SuV easy to put childseat /baby inside. No need to bend.

Or compact MPV like coming alza also might be a in list
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post May 10 2022, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:05 PM)
Mean SUV not stable? I plan drive slow only.
Reason?
Ok.
No interested. old car.
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post May 10 2022, 01:08 PM

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if drive alot at night or early morning without sunlight, especially on dark roads, it's easier to see on SUV because higher vantage point.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:07 PM)
understand. but please no political.
so u like SUV? why?
Noted, any recommendation what car?
not safe to fetch kids.
ok, any suggestion which car?
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Give an indication of budget la
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:07 PM)
ok, any suggestion which car?
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what's your budget?

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SUV front too high, cannot see Infront one
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post May 10 2022, 01:08 PM

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Actually depends on your budget.
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Well used to be a sedan fella then when using my wife's Aruz found it quite convenient to strap kids on and off their booster/ child seat. Changed to an SUV for myself and its easy on my old body to get in and out also

But other than that like the guy said above, sedan maybe more practical at times and a better drive. SUVs, the bigger they are, handles like people movers.
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post May 10 2022, 01:09 PM

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Buy crossover.
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post May 10 2022, 01:10 PM

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SUV if u think u will involve accident frequently.
Sedan fr cheaper maintenance fuel n cheaper road tax.
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post May 10 2022, 01:10 PM

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Wagon. Offers best of both worlds.

V60, Mazda 6 Grand Touring, Suabru Levorg are good options.

508 GT sw if you don't mind used cars.


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post May 10 2022, 01:10 PM

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If u want to experience how to drive a boat, then take suv. Other than that sedan > suv
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post May 10 2022, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:05 PM)
Reason?
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Ground clearance.
No need to stoop to get in.
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post May 10 2022, 01:17 PM

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on serious note, and practicality point of view. I really think Nissan Serena is a super good buy.
Don't underestimate its shape and sizes. Because I saw first hand a family with baby twins, and how convenient it was for the parents to just put the baby chair, and put the babies in and etc. Because the doors are so huge. The parents don't even need to bend themselves, climb on a step or anything like that. Just super convenient.

I also saw that old people literally WALK into the car, instead of having to bend lah, step up lah..you know how it is.

That car always gives me a very good impression as an amazing family car. And more afforadable then alphard or so.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 10 2022, 01:07 PM)
SUV..easier to carry child seat
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my wife vios also can carry 2 child sear sir.

QUOTE(fertzm @ May 10 2022, 01:07 PM)
of course sedan, no need to blind2 follow trend
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yes, maybe need test drive?

QUOTE(gahpadu @ May 10 2022, 01:08 PM)
SuV easy to put childseat /baby inside. No need to bend.

Or compact MPV like coming alza also might be a in list
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ok thanks suggestion but alza maybe not.


QUOTE(terradrive @ May 10 2022, 01:08 PM)
if drive alot at night or early morning without sunlight, especially on dark roads, it's easier to see on SUV because higher vantage point.
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good points usually drive during daytime. so no issue of dark roads.
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post May 10 2022, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 10 2022, 01:09 PM)
Well used to be a sedan fella then when using my wife's Aruz found it quite convenient to strap kids on and off their booster/ child seat. Changed to an SUV for myself and its easy on my old body to get in and out also

But other than that like the guy said above, sedan maybe more practical at times and a better drive. SUVs, the bigger they are, handles like people movers.
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You should look at how convenient Nissan Serena is. xD Just look at how big the doors can open.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:05 PM)
Mean SUV not stable? I plan drive slow only.

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SUV got higher center of gravity compare to sedan.

of course easier to topple compare to sedan

youtube suv moose test
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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Get an SUV.
Once high, never go down.

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post May 10 2022, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ May 10 2022, 01:08 PM)
Give an indication of budget la
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my budget around 130k sir

QUOTE(metalfire @ May 10 2022, 01:08 PM)
what's your budget?
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130k around there +-

QUOTE(9m2w @ May 10 2022, 01:09 PM)
Well used to be a sedan fella then when using my wife's Aruz found it quite convenient to strap kids on and off their booster/ child seat. Changed to an SUV for myself and its easy on my old body to get in and out also

But other than that like the guy said above, sedan maybe more practical at times and a better drive. SUVs, the bigger they are, handles like people movers.
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Thanks, never drive a SUV. Previoisly Sedan & Coupe. currently in SUV list is Corolla Cross, new HRV, 2008


QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ May 10 2022, 01:10 PM)
Wagon. Offers best of both worlds.

V60, Mazda 6 Grand Touring, Suabru Levorg are good options.

508 GT sw if you don't mind used cars.
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too expensive my budget only 130k.

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 10 2022, 01:17 PM)
on serious note, and practicality point of view. I really think Nissan Serena is a super good buy.
Don't underestimate its shape and sizes. Because I saw first hand a family with baby twins, and how convenient it was for the parents to just put the baby chair, and put the babies in and etc. Because the doors are so huge. The parents don't even need to bend themselves, climb on a step or anything like that. Just super convenient.

I also saw that old people literally WALK into the car, instead of having to bend lah, step up lah..you know how it is.

That car always gives me a very good impression as an amazing family car. And more afforadable then alphard or so.
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Agree but this car I will use daily to work also. i dont think I can drive Serena to work daily. Maybe 10 years from now huhu
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:18 PM)
my wife vios also can carry 2 child sear sir.
yes, maybe need test drive?
ok thanks suggestion but alza maybe not.
good points usually drive during daytime. so no issue of dark roads.
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you can ; but if you have more thing need to bring ..suv will be easier..especially if you need to temporary unplug your child seat and put it back to boot just to fetch your parents
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If you live in KL or Selangor, then SUV. Cannot predict when flood
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post May 10 2022, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 10 2022, 01:24 PM)
you can ; but if you have more thing need to bring ..suv will be easier..especially if you need to temporary unplug your child seat and put it back to boot just to fetch your parents
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Why? If not mistaken, boot size usually sedan bigger than SUV. SUV have heights advantage only in term of size.

QUOTE(Zot @ May 10 2022, 01:24 PM)
If you live in KL or Selangor, then SUV. Cannot predict when flood
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I live in Negeri Sembilan area not affected by flood.

QUOTE(brkli @ May 10 2022, 01:24 PM)
sedan.
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Why sir?

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Ayam thought got stormfury video suv vs sedan.....
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I using sedan... Teringgin SUV... I like how tall it is... Ability to see over smaller cars in front
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I thought you already opened a thread ?

I still suggest sedan especially Honda City.

Since your new born and baby car seat going to be rear facing config as long as they can. You will appreciate the extra room after you installed the car seat.

And sedan is easier to ingress and egress.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:27 PM)
Why sir?
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overall easier to maintain (generally speaking). balance between comfort and stability (at least for toyota sedans). also depending on the driver and passenger, some might say is easier to put things in/ go in and out of it. especially if you are not tall..
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SUV. Sedans' sales has been dropping steadily for the past few years. So Sedans are being designed and marketed more towards younger gens by being made more sporty or trendy.

SUV suitable for all types of drivers. It isn't too hard to park. Easier to drive in long distance driving. More boot space. Doesn't cost as much as years ago.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:27 PM)
Why? If not mistaken, boot size usually sedan bigger than SUV. SUV have heights advantage only in term of size.
I live in Negeri Sembilan area not affected by flood.
Why sir?
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you need to carry and bend your body to put into car boot

but if you feel that is perfectly fine for u then why not just go for sedan
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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income enough? suv cost more and more fuel
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Suv la, more cargo space to put all the baby stuff and maybe bwk funitures from ikea...
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sedan more boot space, u will need it with both child
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Ada stroller kan? Get a sedan. U need that space for it

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.
but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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One of the most stupid reason I’ve heard. Equating UMNO and SUV. Man, you’re a different kind of genius!
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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now alot of SUV on the road liao....
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If u wanna drive high from ground SUV.

Else get a decent sedan at least c segment for comfy.


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post May 10 2022, 01:43 PM

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Sedan for me. I dont like suv handling. Like lower car for cornering n overtaking. Get camry so comfortable no need suv
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QUOTE(ahpoo @ May 10 2022, 01:37 PM)
Suv la, more cargo space to put all the baby stuff and maybe bwk funitures from ikea...
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SUV cant put lotsa stuff with small boot. Only can fold down the back seats for more cargo space but then u will lacking another 2 - 3 passenger seats.
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QUOTE(bamkai @ May 10 2022, 01:43 PM)
Sedan for me. I dont like suv handling. Like lower car for cornering n overtaking. Get camry so comfortable no need suv
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Have u tried Forester? whistling.gif
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should get MPV. SUV and MPV is not same yoo
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post May 10 2022, 01:52 PM

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SUV easier if you have child seats.
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A wagon or estate.
Being able to access your cargo while moving is vital when you have small kids
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 10 2022, 01:44 PM)
SUV cant put lotsa stuff with small boot. Only can fold down the back seats for more cargo space but then u will lacking another 2 - 3 passenger seats.
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not entirely true, if you are talking about 7 seater SUV, there are more space then any C-Segment sedan. In any C-Segment SUV, you can even fit in a mountain bike which no sedan can. Guess the SUV you were referring to is something like a Activa? or X50?

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 10 2022, 01:18 PM)
You should look at how convenient Nissan Serena is. xD Just look at how big the doors can open.
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Kek actually me and my wife did survey the Serena. Yes that one pure people mover. Thin doors and seats a bit of a turn off. Other than that for that money and the space on offer, pretty good deal.

Oh yeah lack of a spare tyre another turn off. Can add on by putting it at the undercarriage like a pickup. Shit if my wife was driving it and had to change tyres.

In the end settled for SUV
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Got money buy Suv. No money, buy sedan
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QUOTE(mypalm79 @ May 10 2022, 01:50 PM)
not quite sure if you are stupid or dai lang ngong, i have been driving SUV for 4 years, taking corner at 80 or 90kmj still fine and stable. In case you are stupid and still stuck in the 90s, most SUV has their own chassis control system to ensure stability. Even if you are driving a sedan, taking corners at high speed is still deem dangerous laaa sor hai.
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Its just simple physics. SUV = higher centre of gravity. No chassis control can overcome that
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depend how tall are you , tall/short ppl love SUV

but all tall ppl dont prefer sedan cause too low
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 10 2022, 01:57 PM)
Its just simple physics. SUV = higher centre of gravity. No chassis control can overcome that
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like i said....under no circumstances one should taking corner at high speed regardless sedan or suv. Plus chassis control are there to solve old days problem making SUV more stable and comfortable to drive. If you don't owned both kind of cars, you are just speaking from imagination or stuck in the older days.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:27 PM)
Why? If not mistaken, boot size usually sedan bigger than SUV. SUV have heights advantage only in term of size.
I live in Negeri Sembilan area not affected by flood.
Why sir?
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In term of boot, the back seat of SUV can be fold to put bigger size item. Furthermore, there is less restriction on item height compare to sedan.
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For young working adult + family. Never go wrong with a Japanese SUV. Safe bet is Honda CRV.
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QUOTE(mypalm79 @ May 10 2022, 01:54 PM)
not entirely true, if you are talking about 7 seater SUV, there are more space  then any C-Segment sedan. In any C-Segment SUV, you can even fit in a mountain bike which no sedan can. Guess the SUV you were referring to is something like a Activa? or X50?
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True that. Yes I was referring to the mainstream SUV(s).
I drove SUV too and went getting Ikea stuff always had to switch to mpv for long ass cabinets.
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 10 2022, 02:01 PM)
True that. Yes I was referring to the mainstream SUV(s).
I drove SUV too and went getting Ikea stuff always had to switch to mpv for long ass cabinets.
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no, those are toy/children SUV and not mainstream SUV. i had fetched a queen size bed + mattress from Ikea in a real SUV but i need to fold down second row and third row seat laa.
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QUOTE(mypalm79 @ May 10 2022, 02:04 PM)
no, those are toy/children SUV and not mainstream SUV. i had fetched a queen size bed + mattress from Ikea in a real SUV but i need to fold down second row and third row seat laa.
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What suv is that lol

PS: cx9 ?

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What suv is that lol

PS: cx9 ?
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so obviously you do not drive a SUV as per-claimed. SUV market is still small and many SUV owner know other brands and model as well; i just hinted you, 7 seater SUV.

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QUOTE(mypalm79 @ May 10 2022, 02:06 PM)
so obviously you do not drive a SUV as per-claimed. SUV market is still small and many SUV owner know other brands and model as well; i just hinted you, 7 seater SUV.
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Ya prolly I don't drive SUV nor mpv nor sedan.... Hmmm

Ps: Only drove kancil

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7 seater or sedan. 5 seater SUV is big in size but may not be big in practicality
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 10 2022, 02:07 PM)
Ya prolly I don't drive SUV nor mpv nor sedan.... Hmmm

Ps: Only drove kancil
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then stay where you are and don't be a wannabe or brag laaa
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QUOTE(mypalm79 @ May 10 2022, 02:00 PM)
like i said....under no circumstances one should taking corner at high speed regardless sedan or suv. Plus chassis control are there to solve old days problem making SUV more stable and comfortable to drive. If you don't owned both kind of cars, you are just speaking from imagination or stuck in the older days.
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SUV for comfort and relaxing drive.

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For those who keep recommend SUV. Be specific also as to which model la.

CX-5 cant lar. I tried to fit chicco nextfix zip max on seats behind driver. My driving position have to adjust to somewhat uncomfortably short because the rear legroom is not wide enough. And I am just 160cm+- LOL.
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Sedan for me. I dont like suv handling. Like lower car for cornering n overtaking. Get camry so comfortable no need suv
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Camry 4 months waiting period now bugima

Me wait till neck also long d

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For those who keep recommend SUV. Be specific also as to which model la.

CX-5 cant lar. I tried to fit chicco nextfix zip max on seats behind driver. My driving position have to adjust to somewhat uncomfortably short because the rear legroom is not wide enough. And I am just 160cm+- LOL.
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160+ also stuck liao meh? I thought their threshold is 175
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For those who keep recommend SUV. Be specific also as to which model la.

CX-5 cant lar. I tried to fit chicco nextfix zip max on seats behind driver. My driving position have to adjust to somewhat uncomfortably short because the rear legroom is not wide enough. And I am just 160cm+- LOL.
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What position is the car seat? Rear facing max recline then yeah. Most cars kantoi. Front facing makes things easier
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i think the bigger question should be sedan / mpv (or mpv tat looks like suv like xpander & aruz)

u enjoy lugging stuff into the sedan boot

or find putting into a 5th door hatch in mpv/hatchback easier?
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Sedan obviously.

the problems with SUV
-slower than sedan with similar engine. Eg: crv tc is slower than civic tc. mazda cx5 is slower than mazda 3.
-less economical than a sedan since they are generally heavier and less aerodynamic compared to a sedan.
-costlier parts, tyres and other consumables compared to a sedan
-worse handling than an equivalent sedan. For example civic will always outhandle a crv. Mazda 3 also will outhandle a cx30/cx5.

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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 10 2022, 02:20 PM)
What position is the car seat? Rear facing max recline then yeah. Most cars kantoi. Front facing makes things easier
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Recline position around 3 for cx-5
2 for honda city and civic no problem at all. still got a bit of room left.
For reference 1 is max for rear facing config.
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QUOTE(ju146 @ May 10 2022, 02:17 PM)
Never ever consider mazda for anything to do with space. Mazda car is design for the front passenger and driver only. Rear and boot are meant for formality to fit into the definiton of sedan, hatchback, or suv

160+ also stuck liao meh? I thought their threshold is 175
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Maybe my car seat is huge and it's rear facing config that's why.
If turn to front facing then it's all fine.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 10 2022, 01:56 PM)
Kek actually me and my wife did survey the Serena. Yes that one pure people mover. Thin doors and seats a bit of a turn off. Other than that for that money and the space on offer, pretty good deal.

Oh yeah lack of a spare tyre another turn off. Can add on by putting it at the undercarriage like a pickup. Shit if my wife was driving it and had to change tyres.

In the end settled for SUV
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just call the insurance helpline to change tyres lah. xD
But only if you have ever had to fetch old people, then you will know sedan and suv are never convenient for them. Literally any cars that they can just "walk" into is the best.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.
but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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Yup suv > all , that why sedan market is shrinking
And all the future EV are mainly suv , means in future suv will dominate whole market on the earth for human kind.
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Sedan. SUV will rollover at the slightest nudge.
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That is on the older SUV, current crop perform just the same as sedan. See the elk test.
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ May 10 2022, 02:43 PM)
That is on the older SUV, current crop perform just the same as sedan. See the elk test.
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dont think so, i just bought crv last year. drive like shit especially when taking corner, cant even compare with sedan.
Even my office bezza can take corner better than crv.

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 10 2022, 02:38 PM)
just call the insurance helpline to change tyres lah. xD
But only if you have ever had to fetch old people, then you will know sedan and suv are never convenient for them. Literally any cars that they can just "walk" into is the best.
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Yeah true. When i fetch older folks they get on and off better with the SUV. But Serena without the need to bend a knee here and there is the best

Of course everyone's favorite Alphard will be the champion hehe
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nobody ask u drive SUV like drive F1
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ May 10 2022, 02:45 PM)
dont think so, i just bought crv last year. drive like shit especially when taking corner, cant even compare with sedan.
Even my office bezza can take corner better than crv.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 10 2022, 02:46 PM)
Yeah true. When i fetch older folks they get on and off better with the SUV. But Serena without the need to bend a knee here and there is the best

Of course everyone's favorite Alphard will be the champion hehe
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To be fair alphard is for fetching people. as a van, it is failure. Serena here excels when u can fold the back seats.

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 10 2022, 01:44 PM)
SUV cant put lotsa stuff with small boot. Only can fold down the back seats for more cargo space but then u will lacking another 2 - 3 passenger seats.
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to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.
but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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suv? ego?
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Maybe my car seat is huge and it's rear facing config that's why.
If turn to front facing then it's all fine.
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I bought an suv instead of a sedan so i can cramp all of my ikea shopping easily, couldn’t do that with my old sedan
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Based on my experience. I buy Sedan at first.

Then change to SUV coz of the bonnet capacity.
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is depend on your preferences, for me i more like suv than sedan.
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suv? ego?
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if not why SUV?

internal space not bigger but overall car size much bigger

need bigger and special tyre cause heavier body

higher gravity center = worse handling

harder to brake



the reason to get SUV always = ego
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Each has its own pros and cons

Just see which pro u value more and pick accordingly
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 10 2022, 01:32 PM)
I thought you already opened a thread ?

I still suggest sedan especially Honda City.

Since your new born and baby car seat going to be rear facing config as long as they can. You will appreciate the extra room after you installed the car seat.

And sedan is easier to ingress and egress.
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Thanks but still undecided, but tomorrow will test drive a few car. what do you think about new civic fe compare to city?

QUOTE(brkli @ May 10 2022, 01:34 PM)
overall easier to maintain (generally speaking). balance between comfort and stability (at least for toyota sedans). also depending on the driver and passenger, some might say is easier to put things in/ go in and out of it. especially if you are not tall..
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agree, just wondering why so many people decide to buy SUV nowadays. Guess I should test drive 1.

QUOTE(toiletwater @ May 10 2022, 01:34 PM)
SUV. Sedans' sales has been dropping steadily for the past few years. So Sedans are being designed and marketed more towards younger gens by being made more sporty or trendy.

SUV suitable for all types of drivers. It isn't too hard to park. Easier to drive in long distance driving. More boot space. Doesn't cost as much as years ago.
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Agree except the boot space sedan should win compare to SUV. I think 1 of SUV disadvantage is small boot space.

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 10 2022, 01:35 PM)
you need to carry and bend your body to put into car boot

but if you feel that is perfectly fine for u then why not just go for sedan
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I never drive SUV, interested to know the visibility advantage it has over sedan. maybe need to test drive. other than that, i think i prefer sedan more.

QUOTE(teslaman @ May 10 2022, 01:37 PM)
income enough? suv cost more and more fuel
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Talk budget first...
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.
but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 10 2022, 03:30 PM)
Well summarised  thumbsup.gif
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accerlation. Sedan ( due to lighter body )

Brake. Sedan ( due to lighter body )

Corner. Sedan ( due to lighter body, lower body )

Changing Lane. Sedan ( due to lighter body, lower body )

Suspension. Sedan ( due to lighter body )



While F1, Hypersport cost user million to go lower, lighter....


SUV go the OPPOSITE DIRECTION.


I guess this is what people define YOLO.




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QUOTE(Juggerballz @ May 10 2022, 02:01 PM)
For young working adult + family. Never go wrong with a Japanese SUV. Safe bet is Honda CRV.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ May 10 2022, 02:08 PM)
How stupid are you la bodoh? I clearly stated nudge. Bodoh talking about cornering for what? Who mentioned anything about cornering? What kind of bodoh are you can't even read? Dropped out of school right?
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take it easy.

QUOTE(mypalm79 @ May 10 2022, 02:09 PM)
then stay where you are and don't be a wannabe or brag laaa
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ May 10 2022, 03:30 PM)
Talk budget first...
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around 130k.

QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 03:36 PM)
accerlation. Sedan ( due to lighter body )

Brake. Sedan ( due to lighter body )

Corner. Sedan ( due to lighter body, lower body )

Changing Lane. Sedan ( due to lighter body, lower body )

Suspension. Sedan ( due to lighter body )
While F1, Hypersport cost user million to go lower, lighter....
SUV go the OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
I guess this is what people define YOLO.
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SUV or MPV will have a more "squarish" rear door aperture and higher roofline. This helps a lot trying to buckle in toddlers and infants into car seats. Assuming you plan to use child seats. Saved me a lot of literal head smacks on the roof of the car strapping kids in.

Bigger windows will also help potentially car sick kids if they can sit higher and see outside.

You will need a big boot opening for kids stuff...like strollers which can be difficult to load in a sedan.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 03:39 PM)
overbudget. only budget around 130k.
take it easy.
take it easy.
around 130k.
agree. thanks
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 03:36 PM)
accerlation. Sedan ( due to lighter body )

Brake. Sedan ( due to lighter body )

Corner. Sedan ( due to lighter body, lower body )

Changing Lane. Sedan ( due to lighter body, lower body )

Suspension. Sedan ( due to lighter body )
While F1, Hypersport cost user million to go lower, lighter....
SUV go the OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
I guess this is what people define YOLO.
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Except for higher ground clearance and vantage point, I don’t really see the advantage of SUV over sedan.

Having said that, I am also considering SUV because of the vantage point laugh.gif Probably crossover like CX30 would give the balance of both world.
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agree, just wondering why so many people decide to buy SUV nowadays. Guess I should test drive 1.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 03:39 PM)
SUV or MPV will have a more "squarish" rear door aperture and higher roofline. This helps a lot trying to buckle in toddlers and infants into car seats. Assuming you plan to use child seats. Saved me a lot of literal head smacks on the roof of the car strapping kids in.

Bigger windows will also help potentially car sick kids if they can sit higher and see outside.

You will need a big boot opening for kids stuff...like strollers which can be difficult to load in a sedan.
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Thanks for pointing out these things. Seems like if main concern is baby, the SUV should be the choice.

QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 10 2022, 03:41 PM)
Toyota Corolla Cross 1.8 is within your budget
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
Except for higher ground clearance and vantage point, I don’t really see the advantage of SUV over sedan.

Having said that, I am also considering SUV because of the vantage point laugh.gif Probably crossover like CX30 would give the balance of both world.
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for higher vantage point.


better just go Hilux, or any pickup truck.


For various "Practical" Reason
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depends on your budget
in the end will always come to performance vs practicality

practicality=SUV
performance=Sedan
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 03:47 PM)
for higher vantage point.
better just go Hilux, or any pickup truck.
For various "Practical" Reason
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Different category already.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 03:44 PM)
Thanks for pointing out these things. Seems like if main concern is baby, the SUV should be the choice.
Yes, for sedan, this or Civic FE are in the shorlist.
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When shopping for a car. Bring your child seat along. Have it fitted and see how easy you can get your kid in and strap them in. Bring stroller and what ever baby crap you have and see how you can load them in.


BTW when your wife is 8 months pregnant, she will appreciate a seat that matches her hip point, so it is easy to just slide the legs in and out and get in/out. A sedan will have a seat lower than the hip height so you have to sit DOWN and get UP. Just get something reasonable and not an SUV that is too tall.

Btw the civic has a fairly low roofline. Do the child seat test first.

Take it from experiences of a parent to another parent. Unlike /k forever alone. My wife jokes I bought a car for the kids instead of for her. She got her own car now that the kids are older and can strap themselves in. My youngest is 9 and is still on a booster seat. The eldest is 12 and don't need one now.

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For family, SUV of course. Many reason already given by others.

Sedan like Civic is too low. Go in and out also susah. Choose Accord or Camry if want family sedan.
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7 seaters terus.

Easier when jalan2 bring parents as well.

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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 03:28 PM)
Thanks but still undecided, but tomorrow will test drive a few car. what do you think about new civic fe compare to city?
agree, just wondering why so many people decide to buy SUV nowadays. Guess I should test drive 1.
Agree except the boot space sedan should win compare to SUV. I think 1 of SUV disadvantage is small boot space.
I never drive SUV, interested to know the visibility advantage it has over sedan. maybe need to test drive. other than that, i think i prefer sedan more.
enough. downgrading from current car.
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7 seaters terus.

Easier when jalan2 bring parents as well.

Good deeds to repay them back. Don't be charsiew.
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A point to note if TS might entertain the idea of a compact 7 seater. If you have mounted 2 child seats in the middle seat, How to go into the 3rd row?

Not until they are older and can seat themselves into the 3rd row. I wouldn't squeeze adults in the 3rd row in most compact MPVs and SUVs....unless you really hate your in-laws

A compact 7 seater has almost 0 cargo room with all seats up. When u have kids, you have lots of crap to bring with you

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 03:58 PM)
When shopping for a car. Bring your child seat along. Have it fitted and see how easy you can get your kid in and strap them in. Bring stroller and what ever baby crap you have and see how you can load them in.
BTW when your wife is 8 months pregnant, she will appreciate a seat that matches her hip point, so it is easy to just slide the legs in and out and get in/out. A sedan will have a seat lower than the hip height so you have to sit DOWN and get UP. Just get something reasonable and not an SUV that is too tall.

Btw the civic has a fairly low roofline. Do the child seat test first.

Take it from experiences of a parent to another parent. Unlike /k forever alone. My wife jokes I bought a car for the kids instead of for her. She got her own car now that the kids are older and can strap themselves in. My youngest is 9 and is still on a booster seat. The eldest is 12 and don't need one now.
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Thanks Jayceee for the details explanations. CUV in my list are Corolla Cross, 2008, new HRV. Budget around 130k. Will set for a test drive maybe tomorrow.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 04:23 PM)
A point to note if TS might entertain the idea of a compact 7 seater. If you have mounted 2 child seats in the middle seat, How to go into the 3rd row?

Not until they are older and can seat themselves into the 3rd row. I wouldn't squeeze adults in the 3rd row in most compact MPVs and SUVs....unless you really hate your in-laws

A compact 7 seater has almost 0 cargo room with all seats up. When u have kids, you have lots of crap to bring with you
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Yup true.

Putting in child seats either end of the middle row where usually the ISOFIX or three point seatbelts are seals of access to the last row. Putting chlid seat in the last row might be too cramped also.

Have to figure out the seating combination of your kids with the adults carefully before deciding to take the plunge on an SUV
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 03:28 PM)
Thanks but still undecided, but tomorrow will test drive a few car. what do you think about new civic fe compare to city?
agree, just wondering why so many people decide to buy SUV nowadays. Guess I should test drive 1.
Agree except the boot space sedan should win compare to SUV. I think 1 of SUV disadvantage is small boot space.
I never drive SUV, interested to know the visibility advantage it has over sedan. maybe need to test drive. other than that, i think i prefer sedan more.
enough. downgrading from current car.
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SUV/MPV driving experience cannot match sedan.

Sedan will easily have better handling, control, etc due to lower center of gravity.

As for me, i choose MPV bcos of its practicality. Need 1 car that can carry large items, higher ground clearance, yet still comfortable for family to ride along.

See what you want in your car, then decide.
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Suv better parking at higher ground/Kerb, marehsia many potholes and usually flooding, SUV can drive thru the potholes and flood water easily..INB4 if this sesohai drive a suv,the undercarriage won't be scratch..



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QUOTE(wcnew @ May 10 2022, 05:16 PM)
Suv better parking at higher ground/Kerb, marehsia many potholes and usually flooding, SUV can drive thru the potholes and flood water easily..INB4 if this sesohai drive a suv the undercarriage won't be scratch..


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Buy SUV for family and please dont drive like sedan...

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if got child , go for Sedan la and use baby bassinet if its a baby

SUV mana safe if shit happens.

Do you see AhFatt or Hellfire ever got approved to be sold in the States or EU ?

enough said
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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Just like your purpose, I just bought a nissan serena hws for family wife + 4 year old + 1.5 year old and sometimes + sis in law + 4 year old kid. Use it monthly at least once balik kampung (over 150km), fetch my parents go jalan jalan, dinning

I do use it as daily drive as well for fetching kids to nanny, school then work

Driving experience : of course you cant expect it will be good as Sedan/SUV

Fuel consumption : It is heavy so dun give hope on FC, I can only achieve 320-420km for 100 MYR RON 95 full tank, but on highway it can do more than 500km

Practical: Full star, highly flexible for the seat configuration and space. The walkway is really convenient for the kid's mother access from the passenger seat, straight to 2nd and 3rd row when the kids make noise or need something. The tray table also make milk making job easier.

Why I not go for other MPV new Avanza/BRV with lots new features:
- Don't know when it ll launch
- price hike for new car, the price gap to nissan serena (Not latest facelift) after all discount might be diff by 10-20k
- 3rd row space quite cramp

Why not Innova
- 3rd row space quite cramp

Why not X90
- Don't know when it ll launch

Why not CX-8
wub.gif it is my wish list but no budget yet, perhaps next upgrade

Why not larger C sedan
I need fetch more than 5 ppl 50% of the time and space really matter, while driving experience is something I need to sacrifice

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ya

if not why SUV?

internal space not bigger but overall car size much bigger

need bigger and special tyre cause heavier body

higher gravity center = worse handling

harder to brake
the reason to get SUV always = ego
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What is the difference between MPV and SUV?
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Different a lot, mpv = multi purpose vehicle, suv = sport utility vehicle.

Do know what is suv, need to go back to the 90's and see their marketing branding and promotion... all connected to lifestyle.

Look up Freelander. This one can go off-road like the Land Rover. Can drive side-way along inclines (like that picture of a Toyota Cross leaning inside a ditch) without toppling. That time, the showroom at Jln Ampang got a specially build circuit for test drive.

SUV got roof rails, this for strapping roof rack to carry bicycles or canoe.

The 1st generation SUV like Nissan X-Trail, Subaru Forester, Toyota RAV4, Suzuki Vitara, were 4 wheel drives.

All can go soft off-road, like on sandy beaches.

I prefer those that opens the back door up... when it's raining, reverse car and position the back facing beach/sea, sit at the back... smile.gif

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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 04:25 PM)
Thanks Jayceee for the details explanations. CUV in my list are Corolla Cross, 2008, new HRV. Budget around 130k. Will set for a test drive maybe tomorrow.
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I think the Cross will be the more practical compared to the new HRV. Rear door is very square at the glass section compared to the sloping HRV. Have to see it in person to judge.

But historically, the honda being honda will be the more entertaining to drive of the 2. Toyota's have very numb steering, but often better sound proofing, more comfortable suspension and the 1.8L engine is a proven reliable unit. Neither will set your pants on fire though, but you also won't go wrong with either.

The 2008 on the other hand.......... Don't. It's actually a segment smaller anyway.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 10:10 PM)
I think the Cross will be the more practical compared to the new HRV. Rear door is very square at the glass section compared to the sloping HRV. Have to see it in person to judge.

But historically, the honda being honda will be the more entertaining to drive of the 2. Toyota's have very numb steering, but often better sound proofing, more comfortable suspension and the 1.8L engine is a proven reliable unit. Neither will set your pants on fire though, but you also won't go wrong with either.

The 2008 on the other hand.......... Don't. It's actually a segment smaller anyway.
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Hrv is 3xx liter boot while cross is 4xx liter boot.

Cross looks intimidating and big. Hrv looks good.


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QUOTE(lotussgot @ May 10 2022, 05:25 PM)
if got child , go for Sedan la and use baby bassinet if its a baby

SUV mana safe if shit happens.

Do you see AhFatt or Hellfire ever got approved to be sold in the States or EU ?

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Because they dont care about their parents.

How often do you see americans europeans bring grandpa and grandchildren out?


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If same segment
Sedan rear seat more comfortable.
U can try compare corolla Altis and Corolla cross
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Just go for sedan…
If really must get suv, buy a REAL SUV..
Example: subaru xv or forester
They are value for money.. AWD with double wishbone suspension plus one of the best active cruise control in the market…
They actually handle better than most sedan…

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SUV la. taller. cross flood water also no need worry
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QUOTE(usop8290 @ May 10 2022, 02:14 PM)
SUV for comfort and relaxing drive.

sedan if you are into driving feel. every weekend layan karak circuit.
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This.

I like cruising 90 - 110 km/hr on highway

Of course you can speed up, but too frequent will defeat the purpose of suv.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 10:10 PM)
I think the Cross will be the more practical compared to the new HRV. Rear door is very square at the glass section compared to the sloping HRV. Have to see it in person to judge.

But historically, the honda being honda will be the more entertaining to drive of the 2. Toyota's have very numb steering, but often better sound proofing, more comfortable suspension and the 1.8L engine is a proven reliable unit. Neither will set your pants on fire though, but you also won't go wrong with either.

The 2008 on the other hand.......... Don't. It's actually a segment smaller anyway.
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What is numb steering?
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ May 10 2022, 01:10 PM)
If u want to experience how to drive a boat, then take suv. Other than that sedan > suv
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You are so yesterday. Not all SUV are sucks like that. If you drive CRV or CX5 of course you will feel like a boat. Bad at high speed cornering too. But some SUVs can handle better than typical sedan. I know it because I own one. Tested it at LDP, Karak and LPT without any problem. Speed around 160km/h to 200km/h. Very rock stable and good grip. Can handle high speed cornering more than 100km/h without feeling body roll. CRV and CX5 cannot do that.

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SUV due to practicality and space to put baby stroller. Yes sedan also has enough space to put baby stroller. But only laying down position and wasting bonet space. In SUV u can put folded stroller in upright position and saving space for other luggage. Summore it is asier to put in and take out from bonet in upright position.

I have 5 mo baby and used HRV. Really2 convenient to put baby stroller. Also tips from me get car seat than can rotate 360°, much easier to put baby in and out.
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ May 11 2022, 01:26 AM)
What is numb steering?
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Numb steering aka, uncommunicative steering is where the steering feel is so isolated and muted that it doesn't transmit any feel of what the front wheels are doing or how much grip the front has. Numb steering may also mean vague on centre feel and steering return feel after you have made a turn. This has been made worst with the move to electric assisted power steering Vs older hydraulic systems, making the steering feel vague and slightly "disconnected"

It is an antithesis of a sporty car as you need to feel the limits of grip to push the car to its limits.

Factors that contribute to this are different suspension and steering geometry, lock to lock turns, how the steering is damped for NVH and how the steering is powered.

That said, it's not a problem if you are not a sporty driver and just want ...a car.


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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 11 2022, 10:21 AM)
Numb steering aka, uncommunicative steering is where the steering feel is so isolated and muted that it doesn't transmit any feel of what the front wheels are doing or how much grip the front has. Numb steering may also mean vague on centre feel and steering return feel after you have made a turn. This has been made worst with the move to electric assisted power steering Vs older hydraulic systems, making the steering feel vague and slightly "disconnected"

It is an antithesis of a sporty car as you need to feel the limits of grip to push the car to its limits.

Factors that contribute to this are different suspension and steering geometry, lock to lock turns, how the steering is damped for NVH and how the steering is powered.

That said, it's not a problem if you are not a sporty driver and just want ...a car.
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If you want best feedback then drive Axia/MyVi. Luxury car mostly numb steering biggrin.gif
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For those people that still want to maintain practically and driving dynamics that SUVs and MPVs lack there remains options of larger hatchbacks or station wagons. Both share the large and square rear door openings and big boot opening of the SUV without suffering from the comfort orientated suspension and higher ride height of the former. Rare and expensive in our market now because we simple don't appreciate cars like that now, unlike in Europe.

Cars like the Subaru Legacy wagons and Levorg (and related outback versions), Volvo wagons and those from the Germans offer both practicality and good driving dynamics.

If one really don't want both the wagons and hatchbacks, BMW makes a range of "GT" versions of the 3 and 5 series for that. Audi has the Sportback A5 and A7, and VW has the Arteon

Sporty SUVs does exist, but that's in another price range alltogether.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 03:44 PM)
Thanks for pointing out these things. Seems like if main concern is baby, the SUV should be the choice.
Yes, for sedan, this or Civic FE are in the shorlist.
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Do consider the cost of maintaining such vehicle as well. I started to look into ownership of a particular vehicle if it's worthy before final purchase.

SUV, Sedan and MPV have different road tax category and maintenance for instance price of as tires, car batteries (those norm wear and tear stuff).

Many consumer just think of purchasing price most of the time.


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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 11 2022, 10:21 AM)
Numb steering aka, uncommunicative steering is where the steering feel is so isolated and muted that it doesn't transmit any feel of what the front wheels are doing or how much grip the front has. Numb steering may also mean vague on centre feel and steering return feel after you have made a turn. This has been made worst with the move to electric assisted power steering Vs older hydraulic systems, making the steering feel vague and slightly "disconnected"

It is an antithesis of a sporty car as you need to feel the limits of grip to push the car to its limits.

Factors that contribute to this are different suspension and steering geometry, lock to lock turns, how the steering is damped for NVH and how the steering is powered.

That said, it's not a problem if you are not a sporty driver and just want ...a car.
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Yup, maybe I'm not a sporty driver at all. I'm appreciative of the electric assisted power steering that makes turning and u-turning such a breeze. Now when driving other cars, I'm no longer used to their steering which feels too heavy for my liking.
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QUOTE(TORA datang lagi! @ May 11 2022, 02:50 AM)
SUV due to practicality and space to put baby stroller. Yes sedan also has enough space to put baby stroller. But only laying down position and wasting bonet space. In SUV u can put folded stroller in upright position and saving space for other luggage. Summore it is asier to put in and take out from bonet in upright position.

I have 5 mo baby and used HRV. Really2 convenient to put baby stroller. Also tips from me get car seat than can rotate 360°, much easier to put baby in and out.
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people see on paper trunk size pakai liter, dont think proper usable space for odd shaped stuff like stroller.

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If budget allows, buy both.
1x C segment crossover SUV and a C or D sporty sedan.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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a very wise choice, indeed

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 11 2022, 10:29 AM)
If you want best feedback then drive Axia/MyVi. Luxury car mostly numb steering  biggrin.gif
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the current myvi steering also like wth? very light indeed.

wonder how tf those kids can drive it beyond 130km/h on highway
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ May 11 2022, 12:30 PM)
people see on paper trunk size pakai liter, dont think proper usable space for odd shaped stuff like stroller.
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Yep. Also the loading "hole" size and shape. And the load floor height.

Normal quoted boot space is usually calculated to the window line, so for SUVs and MPVs it is sometimes deceptively smaller than a sedan (even a B segment City has 500L, bigger than most SUV/MPV) but very often a SUV/MPV can easily load things past the window line. Safe or not or police kacau is another story.

A lot of things that makes sense for families don't necessarily make a lot of sense otherwise. Like sliding MPV doors for example...great for children to use and not to worry about them smashing the doors into other cars. Compared to MPVs with normal swing out doors like on the Alza that are very long and swing out very far, tough for tight parking spots (fortunately he Alza is fairly narrow).

A lot of people buy cars based on Thier emotions and not the technically and functionality and fail to test out these aspects when car shopping.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 11 2022, 12:41 PM)
the current myvi steering also like wth? very light indeed.

wonder how tf those kids can drive it beyond 130km/h on highway
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Not a problem. The faster you go the moment force by tire rotation will make the steering more heavy to turn. This is physics. It will not be lighter like when you are slow. Need more force to turn. Anyway, once high speed you do not want to turn the steering abruptly biggrin.gif

I own a MyVi also and sometimes I drive fast too. At 130km/h, it is still okay for me. Normally, I just cruise to work in the morning at 80km/h. I think truck drivers also get mad. I signal them to overtake me and move aside to give more room all the time. Container trucks at 100+km/h on highway are normal. I let them pass. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ May 11 2022, 01:30 AM)
people see on paper trunk size pakai liter, dont think proper usable space for odd shaped stuff like stroller.
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Boi u must be still single 😋. If have children, people tend to plan ahead what type of car they will buy and the cargo space/layout it offers to put baby accessories and other items.

For me, I dont believe buta2 what manufacturer state on paper because different car have different usable space and layout.
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SUV,
Because if u encounter long Q for u turn, can skip the Q, u turn at the divider.
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vellfire is sedan suv or bus?
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
to fulfill ego needs, SUV

for driving pleasure, Sedan

pratical, still sedan

cheaper to maintain, is still sedan.
but why SUV more popular?

i can only tell u, UMNO also popular here despite all the corruption.
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Suv higher ride height, easier ingress and egress, wider & taller door opening useful to load baby in car seat, no need to bend, more cargo space with bigger hatch boot etc


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SUV,
Because if u encounter long Q for u turn, can skip the Q, u turn at the divider.
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true... when accident can fly over divider also...
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 11 2022, 01:04 PM)
Not a problem. The faster you go the moment force by tire rotation will make the steering more heavy to turn. This is physics. It will not be lighter like when you are slow. Need more force to turn. Anyway, once high speed you do not want to turn the steering abruptly  biggrin.gif

I own a MyVi also and sometimes I drive fast too. At 130km/h, it is still okay for me. Normally, I just cruise to work in the morning at 80km/h. I think truck drivers also get mad. I signal them to overtake me and move aside to give more room all the time. Container trucks at 100+km/h on highway are normal. I let them pass.  sweat.gif
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I dont know man. the moment that car hit 120km/h the front wheels feels like it is ready to lift off

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vellfire is sedan suv or bus?
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why maintaining a sedan is more cheap then SUV?
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why maintaining a sedan is more cheap then SUV?
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The SUV is more on those with 4WD or AWD. Other than engine oil, need to change also differential oil. If the 2WD model I think about the same.
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It's a van.
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ May 11 2022, 04:53 PM)
why maintaining a sedan is more cheap then SUV?
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2 key things, bigger and heavier body = more material, bigger rims/tyres = more expensive.
Engine is subjective. Can be more or less the same if in between 1.5T to 2.5L engines.
This is of course comparing similarly priced sedan equivalents.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 11 2022, 12:44 PM)
Yep. Also the loading "hole" size and shape. And the load floor height.

Normal quoted boot space is usually calculated to the window line, so for SUVs and MPVs it is sometimes deceptively smaller than a sedan (even a B segment City has 500L, bigger than most SUV/MPV) but very often a SUV/MPV can easily load things past the window line. Safe or not or police kacau is another story.

A lot of things that makes sense for families don't necessarily make a lot of sense otherwise. Like sliding MPV doors for example...great for children to use and not to worry about them smashing the doors into other cars. Compared to MPVs with normal swing out doors like on the Alza that are very long and swing out very far, tough for tight parking spots (fortunately he Alza is fairly narrow).

A lot of people buy cars based on Thier emotions and not the technically and functionality and fail to test out these aspects when car shopping.
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maybe because most people are just common people laugh.gif

they dont have such specific need like i must fold my stroller upright laugh.gif

people just MAKE DO.

if you have 200k budget and have tonnes of free time then of course you can do all kind of test .

but most just dont laugh.gif

and they get rewarded by easy to access repairing and resale, if comparing with niche selection like getting a subaru laugh.gif or a peugeot.
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im surprised when people mentioning Ikea here.

hiring ikea to send your stuff to your house is like rm50 only.

you dont need to base your 5 years commitment on ikea shopping.

and how often do you do shopping in ikea for bulky stuff? you renovate every 6 months?


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Tyres.

A 19inch vs 16/17inch tyres a lot different.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 12:58 PM)
Hi,

I plan to buy car, family consist of me + wife + 8m/o son + unborn child. Car will use for daily drive,(fetch 2 kids to babysitter), and use as family car long distance travel(maybe once a month). Office and babysitter distance is only like 20minutes from my house. Do you guys think SUV or Sedan better for us?
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For family, SUV or MPV.
For ownself, sedan or coupe.
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QUOTE(TORA datang lagi! @ May 11 2022, 04:01 PM)
Boi u must be still single 😋. If have children, people tend to plan ahead what type of car they will buy and the cargo space/layout it offers to put baby accessories and other items.

For me, I dont believe buta2 what manufacturer state on paper because different car have different usable space and layout.
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What? I dari awal say get suv cause stroller lor
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What? I dari awal say get suv cause stroller lor
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QUOTE(-H20- @ May 11 2022, 05:22 PM)
im surprised when people mentioning Ikea here.

hiring ikea to send your stuff to your house is like rm50 only.

you dont need to base your 5 years commitment on ikea shopping.

and how often do you do shopping in ikea for bulky stuff? you renovate every 6 months?
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It's an option lah. You say like that, might as well don't buy car. Why commit 5 years for a hunk of metal. Just take grab everywhere.
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It's an option lah. You say like that, might as well don't buy car. Why commit 5 years for a hunk of metal. Just take grab everywhere.
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not sure why ppl keep mentioned is hard to keep stroller in sedan.
i drove a persona, my boot can keep 2 stroller and still got space to put some bags.

Also for TS, sooner when your kids age around 3 - 4, they rarely wanna use stroller anymore.

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SUV at least can escape from floods. Sedan need to climb out from the sunroof and wait for help.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 10 2022, 01:22 PM)
my budget around 130k sir
130k around there +-
Thanks, never drive a SUV. Previoisly Sedan & Coupe. currently in SUV list is Corolla Cross, new HRV, 2008
too expensive my budget only 130k.
Agree but this car I will use daily to work also. i dont think I can drive Serena to work daily. Maybe 10 years from now huhu
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corolla cross hybrid will be a good choice at that budget

save on fuel especially town driving


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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 10 2022, 03:58 PM)
When shopping for a car. Bring your child seat along. Have it fitted and see how easy you can get your kid in and strap them in. Bring stroller and what ever baby crap you have and see how you can load them in.
BTW when your wife is 8 months pregnant, she will appreciate a seat that matches her hip point, so it is easy to just slide the legs in and out and get in/out. A sedan will have a seat lower than the hip height so you have to sit DOWN and get UP. Just get something reasonable and not an SUV that is too tall.

Btw the civic has a fairly low roofline. Do the child seat test first.

Take it from experiences of a parent to another parent. Unlike /k forever alone. My wife jokes I bought a car for the kids instead of for her. She got her own car now that the kids are older and can strap themselves in. My youngest is 9 and is still on a booster seat. The eldest is 12 and don't need one now.
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I have both. Still prefer sedan.
Family go pasar, A to B => SUV
Personal weekend up genting, winding road and to enjoy driving -> sedan/coupe
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sedan more practical because it has a proper boot space covered and separated away from passenger cabin, and also more comfortable than SUV due to lower height.

unless your area is prone to flood, then a slightly higher SUV (or pickup truck even better, more ground clearance) makes sense otherwise no point getting one. and most family-oriented SUVs are not that tough to begin with, your typical shiny bling bling CRV CX-5 are certainly not Toyota Fortuner.

another viable option would be MPV. not talking about Alphard Vellfire Serena kind of MPV but something like Exora, Sienta, Wish etc. they quite good to drive and perfect for family outing.

ps: compare apple to apple in terms of size and pricing, not Ativa vs. Bentley ok...
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For RM130k-140k, I would choose Corolla Cross (hybrid) for 4 pax.

I have tested it, it is comfortable. The benefit of an SUV style is always the seating height and it is less hard on the knees and back when you bend down etc and need to pick up babies and stroller and luggage. Entry and egress also super easy compared to certain sedans.

In the same category you also have Subaru XV which is even smaller but more expensive. And also potentially the new HRV, but it remains to be seen what are the trim and engine options you can get at 130k (hopefully a lot) and for now it appears bigger than the outgoing model, yet we dont know for sure how practically bigger....??

The downside of Corolla cross is the size again in terms of width, it will be narrow for 3 adults side by side. It depends if you really need that tiny extra 2inch of hip / shoulder width. Why Toyota didnt package this wider, I am not sure. Then again they show with CH-R they can miss the entire package and not suffer.

Due to this, I opted for Civic which will accommodate full 3 adults....although just barely. It would've better if I went for a D segment but budget limited. A SUV style is also great when you want to collapse the rear seat to buy a baby crib or ikea furniture.

I directly overlook any vehicle that does not have any ADAS, for 130k.

To complete my story I have a Nissan Grand Livina if I need to do weird carrying duties...


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mind sharing what car u and ur wife are driving now?
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I have a T30 X trail AWD and a Hyundai matrix. Wife now drives a Yaris after trading in her Citra MPV.

All our cars are in fact hatchbacks...never owned a sedan.

For fun and adrenaline rush, I just take my bike now. Retired the "fun" car long time ago.

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If got old people in family, SUV can be troublesome for them
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 12 2022, 11:49 AM)
If got old people in family, SUV can be troublesome for them
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Actually it depends. Smaller MPVs and SUVs are better because the seat height matchers the hip point, so it is easy to get in and out. Just don't get a SUV that is too tall can already.

You should try and see.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 12 2022, 11:35 AM)
For RM130k-140k, I would choose Corolla Cross (hybrid) for 4 pax.

I have tested it, it is comfortable. The benefit of an SUV style is always the seating height and it is less hard on the knees and back when you bend down etc and need to pick up babies and stroller and luggage. Entry and egress also super easy compared to certain sedans.

In the same category you also have Subaru XV which is even smaller but more expensive. And also potentially the new HRV, but it remains to be seen what are the trim and engine options you can get at 130k (hopefully a lot) and for now it appears bigger than the outgoing model, yet we dont know for sure how practically bigger....??

The downside of Corolla cross is the size again in terms of width, it will be narrow for 3 adults side by side. It depends if you really need that tiny extra 2inch of hip / shoulder width. Why Toyota didnt package this wider, I am not sure. Then again they show with CH-R they can miss the entire package and not suffer.

Due to this, I opted for Civic which will accommodate full 3 adults....although just barely. It would've better if I went for a D segment but budget limited. A SUV style is also great when you want to collapse the rear seat to buy a baby crib or ikea furniture.

I directly overlook any vehicle that does not have any ADAS, for 130k.

To complete my story I have a Nissan Grand Livina if I need to do weird carrying duties...
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looking forward for new HRV too. Hope it is lower than 130k for the top spec.
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ May 12 2022, 02:19 PM)
looking forward for new HRV too. Hope it is lower than 130k for the top spec.
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elsewhere in ASEAN, the 1.5T HRV is almost the exact same price as Civic (which you know top spec is RM144k) so perhaps 130k you won't get top spec for HRV.

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QUOTE(geforce88 @ May 12 2022, 10:12 AM)
sedan more practical because it has a proper boot space covered and separated away from passenger cabin, and also more comfortable than SUV due to lower height.

unless your area is prone to flood, then a slightly higher SUV (or pickup truck even better, more ground clearance) makes sense otherwise no point getting one. and most family-oriented SUVs are not that tough to begin with, your typical shiny bling bling CRV CX-5 are certainly not Toyota Fortuner.

another viable option would be MPV. not talking about Alphard Vellfire Serena kind of MPV but something like Exora, Sienta, Wish etc. they quite good to drive and perfect for family outing.

ps: compare apple to apple in terms of size and pricing, not Ativa vs. Bentley ok...
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Thanks, agree, after test drive, I think I prefer sedan over SUV. But my wife as passenger said sitting in the back of SUC are more comfortable compare to sedan.

I didn't have MPV in the list because of the size of the car and the fuel consumption. It will be used as a daily car, to send my kids and travel to office. My area so far not flood issue. When I sat in the SUV, I was overwhelmed by the its size, too big for me.

QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 12 2022, 10:35 AM)
For RM130k-140k, I would choose Corolla Cross (hybrid) for 4 pax.

I have tested it, it is comfortable. The benefit of an SUV style is always the seating height and it is less hard on the knees and back when you bend down etc and need to pick up babies and stroller and luggage. Entry and egress also super easy compared to certain sedans.

In the same category you also have Subaru XV which is even smaller but more expensive. And also potentially the new HRV, but it remains to be seen what are the trim and engine options you can get at 130k (hopefully a lot) and for now it appears bigger than the outgoing model, yet we dont know for sure how practically bigger....??

The downside of Corolla cross is the size again in terms of width, it will be narrow for 3 adults side by side. It depends if you really need that tiny extra 2inch of hip / shoulder width. Why Toyota didnt package this wider, I am not sure. Then again they show with CH-R they can miss the entire package and not suffer.

Due to this, I opted for Civic which will accommodate full 3 adults....although just barely. It would've better if I went for a D segment but budget limited. A SUV style is also great when you want to collapse the rear seat to buy a baby crib or ikea furniture.

I directly overlook any vehicle that does not have any ADAS, for 130k.

To complete my story I have a Nissan Grand Livina if I need to do weird carrying duties...
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I test drive corolla cross and corolla altis yesterday. Definitely prefer altis though both interior are quite outdated compared to others in the same segments. the comfort and handling of altis is very nice.

Didnt like C.Cross because of the manual foot brake, outdated interior, too plain for me. And I think Altis is still bigger than C.Cross. Haven't test drive Civic and Mazda 3 Sedan.

QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ May 12 2022, 02:19 PM)
looking forward for new HRV too. Hope it is lower than 130k for the top spec.
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Should be around this price according to Honda SA. And she said will probably launch on September.

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QUOTE(boboke @ May 12 2022, 03:13 PM)
Thanks, agree, after test drive, I think I prefer sedan over SUV. But my wife as passenger said sitting in the back of SUC are more comfortable compare to sedan.

I didn't have MPV in the list because of the size of the car and the fuel consumption. It will be used as a daily car, to send my kids and travel to office. My area so far not flood issue. When I sat in the SUV, I was overwhelmed by the its size, too big for me.
I test drive corolla cross and corolla altis yesterday. Definitely prefer altis though both interior are quite outdated compared to others in the same segments. the comfort and handling of altis is very nice.

Didnt like C.Cross because of the manual foot brake, outdated interior, too plain for me. And I think Altis is still bigger than C.Cross. Haven't test drive Civic and Mazda 3 Sedan.
Should be around this price according to Honda SA. And she said will probably launch on September.
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if you are fine with Sedan, go with Honda Civic. Size, feature, power, price all wins. If you are a person who don't care at all for power but prefer reliable badge, then Corolla and also a bit more comfortable. Dont discount the hybrid Cross until you also considered the potential petrol savings if you drive a lot, stuck in jam a lot and petrol price shoot up. All in all you I can't even feel the difference in handling between it and another sedan when driven in normal traffic conditions.

HRV is a great option if you can wait till Sept, except again we won't know exact details until then. To me, a short time till Sept....just book it and anytime when details or actual car is available and you don't want it, you can easily drop the booking.
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 12 2022, 03:13 PM)
Thanks, agree, after test drive, I think I prefer sedan over SUV. But my wife as passenger said sitting in the back of SUC are more comfortable compare to sedan.
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Is the vehicle moving or not when she is sitting at the back? Sit in a show room sure la more comfortable as more headroom and space.

talking of similar price sedan/SUV and not moded or lowered type , I dont think SUV more comfortable then sedan when it is being driven on highways or trunk road, pot holes, stop and go traffic... as higher ride, more body roll, diving under brake, bouncy suspension, etc...
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i thought HRV will be launch by July??
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My uncle sold his hrv n bought x50 he say x50 feels like mercedes very luxury n many computer can detect which tyre puncture n user friendly cruise control. He say x50 feels like drive Tesla
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ May 12 2022, 06:39 PM)
My uncle sold his hrv n bought x50 he say x50 feels like mercedes very luxury n many computer can detect which tyre puncture n user friendly cruise control. He say x50 feels like drive Tesla
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i already got one proton. I think that is enough. smile.gif

x50 or x70 is difficult to find spare parts nowadays
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QUOTE(boboke @ May 12 2022, 03:13 PM)
Thanks, agree, after test drive, I think I prefer sedan over SUV. But my wife as passenger said sitting in the back of SUC are more comfortable compare to sedan.

I didn't have MPV in the list because of the size of the car and the fuel consumption. It will be used as a daily car, to send my kids and travel to office. My area so far not flood issue. When I sat in the SUV, I was overwhelmed by the its size, too big for me.
I test drive corolla cross and corolla altis yesterday. Definitely prefer altis though both interior are quite outdated compared to others in the same segments. the comfort and handling of altis is very nice.

Didnt like C.Cross because of the manual foot brake, outdated interior, too plain for me. And I think Altis is still bigger than C.Cross. Haven't test drive Civic and Mazda 3 Sedan.
Should be around this price according to Honda SA. And she said will probably launch on September.
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Civic generally is ok. Super big space. For short people like me 160cm my wife sitting at the back is like having S class legroom already.

I think FE and FC have similar low roofline. When you carry baby in out of car seat just careful not knocking the roof, although it is annoying sometimes.
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SUV - in case got small flash flood, still can drive through.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 13 2022, 09:41 AM)
Civic generally is ok. Super big space. For short people like me 160cm my wife sitting at the back is like having S class legroom already.

I think FE and FC have similar low roofline. When you carry baby in out of car seat just careful not knocking the roof, although it is annoying sometimes.
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For some reason, feels like more C-segment cars are having lower back head room already. Even the latest TNGA Corolla is too low for me. I'm 180cm...previous Altis felt roomier behind. I'm in a hunt for a C-segment sedan, but for now, Civic FE seems to be the best option at that price point...
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 11 2022, 12:39 PM)
a very wise choice, indeed

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 13 2022, 09:41 AM)
Civic generally is ok. Super big space. For short people like me 160cm my wife sitting at the back is like having S class legroom already.

I think FE and FC have similar low roofline. When you carry baby in out of car seat just careful not knocking the roof, although it is annoying sometimes.
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QUOTE(jian5481 @ May 13 2022, 01:15 PM)
For some reason, feels like more C-segment cars are having lower back head room already. Even the latest TNGA Corolla is too low for me. I'm 180cm...previous Altis felt roomier behind. I'm in a hunt for a C-segment sedan, but for now, Civic FE seems to be the best option at that price point...
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Civic might have S class legroom but after a while you will feel nausea due to the suspension setup + claustrophobic

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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 12 2022, 05:10 PM)
Is the vehicle moving or not when she is sitting at the back? Sit in a show room sure la more comfortable as more headroom and space.

talking of similar price sedan/SUV and not moded or lowered type , I dont think SUV more comfortable then sedan when it is being driven on highways or trunk road, pot holes, stop and go traffic... as higher ride, more body roll, diving under brake, bouncy suspension, etc...
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on Jap SUV, that one expected lah. especially sampan Toyolta

hardly can feel that on X3/X5/XC90
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QUOTE(gahpadu @ May 10 2022, 01:08 PM)
SuV easy to put childseat /baby inside. No need to bend.

Or compact MPV like coming alza also might be a in list
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QUOTE(gahpadu @ May 16 2022, 12:25 PM)
SuV easy to put childseat /baby inside. No need to bend.

Or compact MPV like coming alza also might be a in list
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Ya. When u bend. U kana
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that's why CX-5 is the best selling soccer mom SUV in MY

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you can humban everything inside. stroller, wheelchair, school bags, grocery bags, corpse

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 16 2022, 12:09 PM)
on Jap SUV, that one expected lah. especially sampan Toyolta

hardly can feel that on X3/X5/XC90
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like that then you compare with 320, 520 and v90
Lembu Goreng
post May 16 2022, 12:36 PM

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If dont use child seat, then no point asking

And because use child seat, easy decision- suv


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post May 16 2022, 12:39 PM

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No choice.. Only can SUV.

Ahem.. flash flood.
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post May 16 2022, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 16 2022, 12:36 PM)
like that then you compare with 320, 520 and v90
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MY price list is like F one

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