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 EU plans one mobile charging port for all, in setback for Apple

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post Apr 26 2022, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 26 2022, 01:52 PM)
you think its easy to double clock rate ka? somemore need to be stable for at least 1 meter of lenght.
40gbps over 4 data pin is already impressive enough.

even if intel release thunderbolt5, it going to be exclusive for intel chipset only, there is no way for intel to license that to the like of apple or amd for few years.
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Except for external GPU enclosure, I've heard of no use of them.
So, like vapourware.

Of proliferate up to thumbdrive, external HDD, and mass adoption by monitors like display port, then can argue.
Now, really feel like vapourware.
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post Apr 26 2022, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 26 2022, 01:53 PM)
So if car manufacturers die² insist left side driving despite Malaysia is more towards right side driving..that means you are backing the manufacturers? icon_idea.gif
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why not?
i thought we are free market?

some car manufacturers want left , some want right...up to them la
they want do 3 tayar car , 6 tayar car...
as long as safety is there....tak kesah

everything also u want control...
do u need government to tell u how many tea spoon of sugar u put in ur milo everyday?

mulut cakap democracy
tapi suka cccp control restriction laugh.gif
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post Apr 26 2022, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Apr 26 2022, 12:30 PM)
again, all those are soft specifications.

Nobody denying that type-C is more superior in terms of charging speed and connectivity.

But my point is that doesn’t mean type-C is physically better than lightning.

Lightning win over Type-C at physical level
- smaller
- easier to plug in
- the female is more robust (don’t have stress point like type-C did and the cable is directly supported by the phone metal case), also the male is more standardised in size.
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I have seen more breaks in iPhone cables than android ones. Just sayin'
and85rew
post Apr 26 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 26 2022, 01:55 PM)
why not?
i thought we are free market?

some car manufacturers want left , some want right...up to them la
they want do 3 tayar car , 6 tayar car...
as long as safety is there....tak kesah

everything also u want control...
do u need government to tell u how many tea spoon of sugar u put in ur milo everyday?

mulut cakap democracy
tapi suka cccp control restriction  laugh.gif
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The irony is strong here tongue.gif
Cannot defend anymore eh?
Your reasonings fail
And surely usb-c is way better than lightning
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post Apr 26 2022, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 26 2022, 01:57 PM)
The irony is strong here tongue.gif
Cannot defend anymore eh?
Your reasonings fail
And surely usb-c is way better than lightning
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i said is up to apple what
dunno why u so support EU control what apple put on their product

later EU said all android phone must have only 1500 battery
u support? laugh.gif

today they control ur charging port
tmr they control ur chipset....

oh wai sounds like cccp laugh.gif
and85rew
post Apr 26 2022, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 26 2022, 01:58 PM)
i said is up to apple what
dunno why u so support EU control what apple put on their product

later EU said all android phone must have only 1500 battery
u support?  laugh.gif

today they control ur charging port
tmr they control ur chipset....

oh wai sounds like cccp laugh.gif
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So you're telling me govt is wrong to teminate 3g?
Why not allow telcos pick what they want? icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 26 2022, 02:00 PM)
So you're telling me govt is wrong to teminate 3g?
Why not allow telcos pick what they want? icon_idea.gif
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of course is wrong.
i never agree on that

dun change topic brows.gif

today EU control charging port
next year EU will control ur handphone battery
next next year EU will said oh only 6gb ram will do ....

is this what u want?
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 26 2022, 01:52 PM)
you think its easy to double clock rate ka? somemore need to be stable for at least 1 meter of lenght.
40gbps over 4 data pin is already impressive enough.

even if intel release thunderbolt5, it going to be exclusive for intel chipset only, there is no way for intel to license that to the like of apple or amd for few years.
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but thunderbolt still use USB-C connector and cross compatible with normal USB.
thats not really an issue.
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 26 2022, 02:01 PM)
of course is wrong.
i never agree on that

dun change topic brows.gif

today EU control charging port
next year EU will control ur handphone battery
next next year EU will said oh only 6gb ram will do ....

is this what u want?
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Wrong analogy
USB-C way better than lightning

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post Apr 26 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 26 2022, 02:02 PM)
Wrong analogy
USB-C way better than lightning
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so?

EVEN if u said usb c is way better

so what?

apple want to put 1gb ram ...into iphone
that is apple problem


u tak suka, u beli samsung huawei xiaomi....sony...motorola

is a free market...
like i said again n again
why u like a country to control what a company can do or not on its own product?


zerorating
post Apr 26 2022, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 26 2022, 01:55 PM)
Except for external GPU enclosure, I've heard of no use of them.
So, like vapourware.

Of proliferate up to thumbdrive, external HDD, and mass adoption by monitors like display port, then can argue.
Now, really feel like vapourware.
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current thunderbolt4 can only drive two display of 4k@60fps and 2k@60fps (HBR3). sorry, its not enough. we need more bandwidth.
vaporware or not, belambak device out there already utilize thunderbolt protocol.

not using thunderbolt then use what? even usb4 is using thunderbolt protocol
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 26 2022, 02:01 PM)
of course is wrong.
i never agree on that

dun change topic brows.gif

today EU control charging port
next year EU will control ur handphone battery
next next year EU will said oh only 6gb ram will do ....

is this what u want?
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It all depends on why EU are doing it?

Why can't there be a standardized charging port?

Isn't it better for everyone?

I am sure you'll say its up to individual to decide.

However, the role of government whether it is democratic or autocratic is to set policies where they think it is the best for the people.
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Apr 26 2022, 02:01 PM)
but thunderbolt still use USB-C connector and cross compatible with normal USB.
thats not really an issue.
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controller need to be developed what.
with fixed usb-c connector and electrical medium, manufacturer only have 6 data pins to play around, it is not easy to develop a new controller that will be twice as fast as current controller.

and we all know intel current focus right now is making faster CPU(probably GPU too), they dont have much resource to play with interconnect stuff.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 26 2022, 02:13 PM
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Apr 26 2022, 02:09 PM)
It all depends on why EU are doing it?

Why can't there be a standardized charging port?

Isn't it better for everyone?

I am sure you'll say its up to individual to decide.

However, the role of government whether it is democratic or autocratic is to set policies where they think it is the best for the people.
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problem is yes...today u said standardized charging port
tmr will u said retina display > amoled? then every phone SHOULD USE retina display?
then next year , no more snapdragon, meditek , SHOULD USE apple m1 chip??

is just a small freaking phone charging
there are over 20-50 brands of phone outside

if ppl think lighting sucks , ios sucks...
buy la samsung...huawei , xiaomi , oppo , SONY , motorola...

no one force u to use lightning.

i dun see why EU must force apple in this issue.

u think pepsi too sweet?
drink coke...drink 100 plus lor.

u think maggie sucks?
buy cintan la laugh.gif laugh.gif

set policies where they think it is the best for the people
sounds like cccp said baidu is better then google laugh.gif

This post has been edited by M4A1: Apr 26 2022, 02:15 PM
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:14 PM

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post Apr 26 2022, 02:15 PM

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Wireless charging is not efficient at all. Energy lost due to heat lost.
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 26 2022, 02:14 PM)
problem is yes...today u said standardized charging port
tmr will u said retina display > amoled? then every phone SHOULD USE retina display?
then next year , no more snapdragon, meditek , SHOULD USE apple m1 chip??
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You are thinking too much too far.
You are going off topic.

Today they are only proposing one thing: Power cable.

Power is essential to every devices. No power no device.

This is very basic requirement.

You are dragging it to other issue. Unreasonable.
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Apr 26 2022, 02:17 PM)
You are thinking too much too far.
You are going off topic.

Today they are only proposing one thing: Power cable.

Power is essential to every devices. No power no device.

This is very basic requirement.

You are dragging it to other issue. Unreasonable.
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did u even read before comment?

Power is essential to every devices. No power no device
u dun said?

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post Apr 26 2022, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 26 2022, 02:02 PM)
Wrong analogy
USB-C way better than lightning
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https://youtube.com/shorts/ZXO0LtDvt-M?feature=share
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 26 2022, 02:20 PM)
did u even read before comment?

Power is essential to every devices. No power no device
u dun said?

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please come back with more reliable argument.

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