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post Apr 3 2022, 07:56 AM

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UHT is not fresh milk. thats why cheaper
kcchong2000
post Apr 3 2022, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 3 2022, 04:48 AM)
wrong

UHT is just a process, can be used both on reconstituted and Fresh Milk™
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QUOTE(twosocks @ Apr 3 2022, 06:52 AM)
Probably they label UHT milk as susu segar for marketing purposes

Very misleading but this is the way it is in our country
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QUOTE(c64 @ Apr 3 2022, 07:29 AM)
No. I buy fresh milk all the time. Nobody labels UHT as 100% Fresh Milk.
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To be fair no matter pasteurized or UHT, it is processed milk aka removed those bacteria etc. How fresh is pasteurized, lol only gods know.

If u want fresh just drink after just milk from cow. Whether u can tahan or not. Lol gods only know.
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post Apr 3 2022, 08:09 AM

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Double. Kns.

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post Apr 3 2022, 08:31 AM

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welp.... /ktards mudah keliru.
topik boleh bergaduh; buat apa nak bersusah payah dibawa bincang.
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post Apr 3 2022, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(eidrag @ Apr 3 2022, 02:35 AM)
bored doing work at night, I compiled both dutch lady fresh milk and full cream in various form

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you shift malam pertahankan gudang susu kah?
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post Apr 3 2022, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Apr 3 2022, 08:09 AM)
To be fair no matter pasteurized or UHT, it is processed milk aka removed those bacteria etc. How fresh is pasteurized, lol only gods know.

If u want fresh just drink after just milk from cow. Whether u can tahan or not. Lol gods only know.
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No, it's totally different. You can't use UHT to make latter or cappucino.

If you try to foam UHT, you will get a clump of horrible bubbles that looks like vomit

I make my own latte and cappuccino at home.
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post Apr 3 2022, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 3 2022, 12:45 AM)
This is you not getting my whole point (and you are probably confused about UHT). there is UHT milk from RECONSTITUTED milk and UHT milk from FRESH milk (milk that has never been made into milk pwder and reconsituted).  UHT is just HEAT treatment at higher temp than pasteurization, it DOES NOT say anything about using milk powder and reconstituting it, adding Water etc etc.

Here is thought experiment. milk from nenen can be unpasteurized, it is still fresh milk right (except we call it RAW milk). why cant that same fresh milk undergo UHT? why does UHT automatically make it not fresh in your eyes but pasteurization still is?

This is the UHT milk from reconstituted from my fridge, the ingredient clearly says from milk solids and isnt marketed as FRESH milk. btw, it is also RM6.2, and the packaging is clearly diff from your UHT Fresh dutch lady milk.
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PS: I do agree they should label fresh milk that is pasteurized vs fresh milk that gone UHT much clearer, but at least they do say so at the back.

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This,many malaysian failed to comprehend 😅😅 , claim been cheated..
Pasteurized or uht is important, better don't drink raw milk, raw milk have many bacteria.

Kek at people who die die want "fresh".

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post Apr 3 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 2 2022, 10:50 PM)
Nah uh. My son's ped actually suggested he take some full cream milk as he needs the fat for his brain development. And this is coming from a ped who graduated from UK and is nearing retirement
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From what age onwards should a toddler take full cream milk?
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 3 2022, 08:32 AM)
you shift malam pertahankan gudang susu kah?
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closing period mah, somehow other region already closed but Japan will send tons of invoices during wd 1,2. I pergi other company pun same problem. They have like other 28 days in months to submit invoice, die2 want to submit last month invoice on 1st day of next month, then expect to pay withn same month, gila.
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Apr 3 2022, 12:12 AM)
take farm fresh fresh milk la, cheaper bro, rm7.3 and 6.5 if discount at tesco

the 2L ones also good at rm13

at least farm fresh fresh milk cows were from NZ, or bred from NZ cows and live in msia. Yarra is farm fresh 'UHT' version. reconstituted.
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Farm Fresh took RM 300 million from gahmen, say want to make cow farm that not stay in condo, but they do liow still cannot hit kpi (milk quantity not met, so buy from all the small farms also which are not from Holstien dairy cows, then add into their main milk volume, so if you add less quality milk to the good quality milk but quality still meet standards,,,you faham, i faham how they achieve the quality standards lar (blink blink)
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(c64 @ Apr 3 2022, 08:32 AM)
No, it's totally different. You can't use UHT to make latter or cappucino.

If you try to foam UHT, you will get a clump of horrible bubbles that looks like vomit

I make my own latte and cappuccino at home.
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later ill show you my foam and latte using the UHT dark blue packet in post 72 using a delonghi machine.
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post Apr 3 2022, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(lifeislikeadream @ Apr 3 2022, 09:17 AM)
From what age onwards should a toddler take full cream milk?
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according to ktard experts, UHT is not meant for human consumption. why are you even considering how young to start with?


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post Apr 3 2022, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 3 2022, 09:58 AM)
later ill show you my foam and latte using the UHT dark blue packet in post 72 using a delonghi machine.
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You are right. I tried to foam uht fresh milk this morning.. macam fuk but the fresh milk foam smooth


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post Apr 3 2022, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 3 2022, 08:36 AM)
This,many malaysian failed to comprehend 😅😅 , claim been cheated..
Pasteurized or uht is important, better don't drink raw milk, raw milk have many bacteria.

Kek at people who die die want "fresh".
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Tgk depan package lar sayang. UHT kenot said fresh milk.

It is like i jual sotong ring but actually is usus babi....oooo wai.....
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post Apr 3 2022, 11:01 AM

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Lol type of milk has nothing exclusive over the treatment process. I guess TS is one of the many misinformed bunch that may believe UHT milk is absolute inferior to pasteurised milk.
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post Apr 3 2022, 11:11 AM

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Most /k are ignorance of science, don't know the difference between pasteurization, uht, full cream, fresh milk, etc.

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post Apr 3 2022, 11:13 AM

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they are the same. just buy whichever is cheaper and that is UHT
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post Apr 3 2022, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 2 2022, 10:41 PM)
I just bought this higher but less wide dutch lady milk at village grocer (on left) and wider but shorter box (on right)

Notice the difference in labelling ? Even protien is less. Price for the taller box is 9.30 while right box is 8 something

Left is from malaysia fresh milk and right is from nz but uht
Both packaging fresh milk!
Why so much variable for same type of model damn feel kena con less protien liao

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Left Pasteurize, shelf life < 1.5 month
Right UHT shelf life 1 year

Fresh milk is actual 100% milk to processing
Full cream milk, it can be recombine with various source of milk and to mix and match until the attritubes of a milk



It's all in MOH food act

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Apr 3 2022, 11:13 AM)
they are the same. just buy whichever is cheaper and that is UHT
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Yeap, because UHT milk can last longer on the shelves thus having longer period to be sold. While HTST or more generally known to the public as 'pasteurised' milk (although both HTST and UHT are actually variants of pasteurisation treatment) have much shorter shelves life, therefore manufacturers have to factor in the loss of sales into the price thus making 'pasterurised' milk more expensive.

I think TS got confused between the different types of milk ingredients and the heat treatment applications.

Unless the listed ingredients on the packaging said milk curdledsor milk solids but advertised as 'fresh milk', then it's definitely not misleading.

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post Apr 3 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Apr 2 2022, 10:44 PM)
topkek that now they even consider UHT = susu segar

UHT is supposed to be reconstituted milk
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UHT is process

Milk source can be different

For reconstitute milk in Malaysia law, can deem under full cream milk
For fresh milk labeling, u have to be 100% fresh milk

Not I say 1, is Malaysia Food act from MOH say 1


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