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munak991
post Apr 3 2022, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 2 2022, 10:41 PM)
I just bought this higher but less wide dutch lady milk at village grocer (on left) and wider but shorter box (on right)

Notice the difference in labelling ? Even protien is less. Price for the taller box is 9.30 while right box is 8 something

Left is from malaysia fresh milk and right is from nz but uht
Both packaging fresh milk!
Why so much variable for same type of model damn feel kena con less protien liao

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Left Pasteurize, shelf life < 1.5 month
Right UHT shelf life 1 year

Fresh milk is actual 100% milk to processing
Full cream milk, it can be recombine with various source of milk and to mix and match until the attritubes of a milk



It's all in MOH food act

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post Apr 3 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Apr 2 2022, 10:44 PM)
topkek that now they even consider UHT = susu segar

UHT is supposed to be reconstituted milk
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UHT is process

Milk source can be different

For reconstitute milk in Malaysia law, can deem under full cream milk
For fresh milk labeling, u have to be 100% fresh milk

Not I say 1, is Malaysia Food act from MOH say 1

munak991
post Apr 3 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 2 2022, 10:53 PM)
Not exactly debating but uht to me is of cheaper price and gone thru a process from powdered milk back to normal milk for import purpose. But that is not considered fresh milk.

Fresh milk shud be just named as fresh milk like the box on the left says
We shud be able to choose what milk we get and if the box say fresh milk the content shud never say uht
Something triggered me to compare coz packaging diff i was wondering what is the difference for them to have diff packaging.

The other thing is the uht milk has shelf life of 1 year and fresh one is by end of this month. M
So obviously kena con. If i wanted uht i know where to get i
Fucker dutch lady i want fresh from cow nenen
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Please don't confuse ur self with ingredients source and processed

There's many processes out there
Pasteurization
Ultra heat treatment
Stirilization
Retort process

All to extend shelf life but which tech is most advance is preserve the original taste is subject to perosnal preference
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post Apr 3 2022, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 2 2022, 10:57 PM)
Manufacturing Pasteurized milk is more expensive than UHT milk, actually UHT cannot call Fresh Milk, and this is not retail staff pandai, this is purposely put one, because these company know Malaysian cannot differentiate Pasteurized and UHT, so Malaysian consumer thought that all milk put in chilled isle is fresh milk. The you can slowly raise the price of UHT very near to Pasteurized...more margin.

For those that don't know, Pasteurized milk, raw mat is fresh milk, either packed at country of origin then come to Malaysia on refer containers, or in bulk tank then pasteurized and pack in Malaysia, UHT milk is made from milk powder.
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Wrong, fresh milk can pack in UHT packaging

UHT and pasteurize is a heat treatment process
Don't confuse processes and milk source
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post Apr 3 2022, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 3 2022, 01:19 AM)
Bro thank you for your explanation but i disagree how they cheat like this. I said before fresh milk to me is fresh milk. The taste is definitely different after trying just now. A consumer see fresh milk ok lo buy taste sure nice but instead get uht milk kaninabu market as fresh milk and less milk oomph. Sometime now it trigger me now which i have to check why HL milk makes it feel like im eating cereal with water

I guess at the end all im saying is becareful with what you buy. Read fine print and if have to spend 10 mins to conpare diff milk then have to la since got unscrupulous kaninabu pull this kind of tricks
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After reading ur comment

It's really your perosnal preference liao,
The company never cheat you or the consumer o.
They offer various option for u. Price is the factor.

Pasteurize milk, short shelf life, microb inside may not be fully eliminated but taste closer to raw milk, price highest in MY

UHT fresh milk long shelf life, a bit lesser taste than Pasteurize milk, price lesser than Pasteurize milk

Recombine Pasteurize milk, they use milk powder add water and pasteurize it, cheaper than UHT fresh milk

Recombine UHT Full cream milk, they can whack any source of cow from MY/swiss/aus and make sure the nutrient is match MOH standard, cheapest.

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post Apr 3 2022, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 3 2022, 11:39 AM)
Yes, can, but in Malaysia almost all UHT is from recombined milk, the reason being importing milk powder is cheaper compared to importing fresh milk, and if you import fresh milk, you might as well pasteurized and sell at higher price. Now you see company putting UHT product in the chilled isle because they know most Malaysians cannot differentiate
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Yes majority, because of Malaysian low purchasing, and we are not a cold country where milk cow is easy to breed and fed here. Hence manufacturer also see the high price of making fresh milk products

So far there's few manufacture do offer Fresh Milk UHT.
But I'm suprise Malaysian has been clouded by the pasteurize so much and deemed UHT is a bad product.

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post Apr 3 2022, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 3 2022, 11:50 AM)
I am not saying UHT is a bad product, these products exist to provide the right product to the right market, but I just find it a bit unethical trying to pass off UHT as a pasteurized product (that is why some of these companies now trying to put the ambient product in the chilled aisle, try to pass a quick one off the eyes of the consumer). I work in Shanghai, and I actually have a subscription service to Bright Dairy, they send Fresh milk to my apartment in glass bottles every day (they time it before I go to work in the morning...but now gonna lockdown again so....), you can also opt for UHT product at a cheaper price, at least they tell you upfront, and not trying to chill a UHT product and try to pass it off as pasteurized, you get what I mean?
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Ahhh yes haha, I get u
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post Apr 3 2022, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Apr 3 2022, 11:55 AM)
What about the susubsegar sold in Indian shops or the Singh who rears cows. Are those fresh and not heat treated?
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This is raw milk. Not heat treated b4

Have to consume within few days

 

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