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 Moving to Singapore after 30, Too late or never too late

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post Mar 1 2022, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 04:54 PM)
1. I plan to stay in SG. Definitely cannot tahan long commute time.

2. Plan for now is work for long term. TBH cannot see a future in MY with weak currency. I do have a house mortgage and car loan but both are manageable right now as I spend very little and is very thrifty.

3 & 4. No kid. No plan to build family. Single till dead let nurse abuse at old folks home that kind.
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With ur profile n thinking, Singapore is a more suitable place for u.

Can look for me if u need to find a room in the west area. All the best in ur job hunting. 👏👏
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post Mar 1 2022, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Don't Troll me! @ Mar 1 2022, 10:05 AM)
if you accept the social life there why not.. mind you.. it would not easy to work with singaporean.. they are very fast paced and high in result.

my friend work there for 5 years and salary is gooding (around 8k sgd) but he still eating alone everyday at canteen because all of his colleague are singaporean.
Note - he is friendly and talkative person

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Ts come take this advice. If u can live with this, the answer is clear.

QUOTE(Icehart @ Mar 1 2022, 11:07 AM)
Confirm friend problem.
I've no such issues with my Singapore colleagues.
When I travel down to SG, they will offer accommodation and always insist on treating me meals.
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No offence. It means your singaporean frens aren't the performance driven type.
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post Mar 1 2022, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Mar 1 2022, 10:11 PM)
No offence. It means your singaporean frens aren't the performance driven type.
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Pretty clear they are high-performance people when they are Bank, MNC VPs or CEOs of their own company.
Problem I see many Malaysian is they feel entitled or they just sucks at making friends.

Of course not to say all Singaporean are angels. I personally met a few SOB chui Singaporeans but my experience with them has always been generally positive.
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post Mar 1 2022, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Mar 1 2022, 07:44 PM)
Wait, so you are called to the bar here in Malaya?

You're okay with the idea of not practicing in sg?
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Yea I was called to the bar in Malaysia. I know that I could never practise outside of West Malaysia so I am fine with that idea.
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post Mar 1 2022, 11:04 PM

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As a Malaysian who has lived and worked In Singapore for many years I would say its not hard to integrate if you blend in. Singaporeans respect performance and ability. But it is a very materialistic society, not racist but people do respect money. Some look down on Malaysians and foreigners whom they think go there because they are financially desperate, or may resent those taking their jobs. But most will respect those who do well.
I would say though that 3.5K salary for a 30 year old isn't high considering the high cost of living. So you need to think whether it is worth it. For me it would be too low. You will have to lead a really simple life.
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post Mar 1 2022, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 04:54 PM)
1. I plan to stay in SG. Definitely cannot tahan long commute time.

2. Plan for now is work for long term. TBH cannot see a future in MY with weak currency. I do have a house mortgage and car loan but both are manageable right now as I spend very little and is very thrifty.

3 & 4. No kid. No plan to build family. Single till dead let nurse abuse at old folks home that kind.
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Done deal. Singapore will be a paradise for you. Push yourself, have the grit, and network you will do just fine. If you ever regret on 3 & 4, then I will have to edit my feedback.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 1 2022, 02:08 PM)
1. TS, you plan to stay in Sg or JB?

2. You plan to work there for short term or long term? I know of ppl who planned short term but as their commitment increases, they are stuck there.

3. You plan to start a family? You gotta familiarise yourself with their school system when you enrol your kids there.

4. Your kids will be stuck there if they're schooled there. Can't even speak Malay wei.
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A lot of thoughts went into these four questions. Worth highlighting again to TS. Take it as a 20 year forecast and actually mean it.
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post Mar 2 2022, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Cadence16 @ Mar 1 2022, 11:04 PM)
As a Malaysian who has lived and worked In Singapore for many years I would say its not hard to integrate  if you blend in. Singaporeans respect performance and ability. But it is a very materialistic society, not racist but people do respect money. Some look down on Malaysians and foreigners whom they think go there because they are financially  desperate,  or may resent those taking their jobs. But most will respect those who do well.
I would say though that 3.5K salary for a 30 year old isn't high considering the high cost of living. So you need to think whether it is worth it. For me it would be too low. You will have to lead a really simple life.
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Yea, this is a truly materialistic society, where few will take a look at you if u are poor or with lower rank. Ppl generally look up to higher rank or the rich.

But I guess this is the case for most cities in the world, even in kl.
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post Mar 2 2022, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 04:54 PM)
1. I plan to stay in SG. Definitely cannot tahan long commute time.

2. Plan for now is work for long term. TBH cannot see a future in MY with weak currency. I do have a house mortgage and car loan but both are manageable right now as I spend very little and is very thrifty.

3 & 4. No kid. No plan to build family. Single till dead let nurse abuse at old folks home that kind.
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Lol on number 3 and 4. But don't worry, sgp gov has a good retirement plan for you after you have become the spr or sgp citizen.
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post Mar 2 2022, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 09:45 AM)
I am currently 30 years old with 5+ years of working experience in the legal industry. For my current job I am drawing a salary of RM4600+. I work in Johor btw. I feel that I am somehow stuck due to my slow career progression so I have been thinking about moving to Singapore.

I found a potential job which offers SGD3.5k at most, which means most likely they will only be paying 3.2k (optimistic?). I know for a fact that if I move to KL I could land a job that would pay me MYR5k+. So the dilemma is should I go to SG for smaller pay (disregard the conversion) and start afresh or to KL?

Appreciate any constructive view. Thanks.

Edited:

Since some of you replied asking for more details before giving advice, i thought I should supplement more info:

1. Single. No plan to start a family. In fact no plan to get into a relationship. Can foresee myself single till the day I die.

2. My previous jobs include lawyer and legal editor. Now working as a legal exec (in house).
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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 10:59 PM)
Yea I was called to the bar in Malaysia. I know that I could never practise outside of West Malaysia so I am fine with that idea.
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Bro, what a waste men. If you working a normal job, then you can find way better income and prospect in SG. But if you are a lawyer, then you should go to KL. You must understand that you could much easier earn a good living in KL with a legal related job VS you in SG working normal. Yes, short term, with conversion, SG income higher, but i bet that is a higher chance that on long run you can earn more in MY. Not sure why you give up so easily.

I've not heard of shortage of legal position in SG la, unlike doctor and software engineer, and from my understand and limited friends working legal stuff, they worked like mad dog in legal industry, it is absolutely brutal and unhealthy.

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post Mar 2 2022, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Mar 2 2022, 09:38 AM)
Bro, what a waste men. If you working a normal job, then you can find way better income and prospect in SG. But if you are a lawyer, then you should go to KL. You must understand that you could much easier earn a good living in KL with a legal related job VS you in SG working normal. Yes, short term, with conversion, SG income higher, but i bet that is a higher chance that on long run you can earn more in MY. Not sure why you give up so easily.

I've not heard of shortage of legal position in SG la, unlike doctor and software engineer, and from my understand and limited friends working legal stuff, they worked like mad dog in legal industry, it is absolutely brutal and unhealthy.
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Yea I do agree with you that it is kinda a waste to give up on my bar qualification. However I do realize that I am not well suited to continue to practise as a lawyer. I am not sure if you are aware that there is an exodus of young lawyers from the pracitising field, and I just happened to be one of them.

I still appreciate your feedback on this and to a certain extent I concur with your sentiment. That is why I am specifically looking for legal related work in my job hunt, so that I do not waste my degree and legal experience.
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 2 2022, 11:31 AM)
Yea I do agree with you that it is kinda a waste to give up on my bar qualification. However I do realize that I am not well suited to continue to practise as a lawyer. I am not sure if you are aware that there is an exodus of young lawyers from the pracitising field, and I just happened to be one of them.

I still appreciate your feedback on this and to a certain extent I concur with your sentiment. That is why I am specifically looking for legal related work in my job hunt, so that I do not waste my degree and legal experience.
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if your decision is firm, just move ahead with it and dont look back. Tomorrow is always gonna be better.
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 2 2022, 11:31 AM)
Yea I do agree with you that it is kinda a waste to give up on my bar qualification. However I do realize that I am not well suited to continue to practise as a lawyer. I am not sure if you are aware that there is an exodus of young lawyers from the pracitising field, and I just happened to be one of them.

I still appreciate your feedback on this and to a certain extent I concur with your sentiment. That is why I am specifically looking for legal related work in my job hunt, so that I do not waste my degree and legal experience.
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Yes there's no shortage of demand for legal related work. All company needs legal team. Maybe to also equip yourself with future demand like legal aspect related to cybersecurity space or distributed ledger tech
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Just have a go and see if you like it there, what's the worst that could happen? You can use this as a stepping stone to getting a better paying job a year or two down the road so don't worry too much about the salary.

Go and experience the life there and see if you like it, even if you regret and end up coming back you are most likely in a better position financially.
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post Mar 2 2022, 11:26 PM

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You are young enough to give this a try but not for too long. Why not try it out for 2 years? Singapore is a land of opportunity. It is just that the lifestyle and cost of living are quite different. I moved there in my teens, adapted easily. My friends and relatives who went there to work as adults, especially after 25, didn't find it as easy to adapt. I would try to get an offer with higher pay or nego for that if I were you. Will you be on Employment Pass or S pass?
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post Mar 3 2022, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Cadence16 @ Mar 2 2022, 11:26 PM)
You are young enough to give this a try but not for too long. Why not try it out for 2 years? Singapore is a land of opportunity.  It is just that the lifestyle and cost of living are quite different. I moved there in my teens, adapted easily. My friends and relatives who went there to work as adults, especially  after 25, didn't find it as easy to adapt. I would try to get an offer with higher pay or nego for that if I were you. Will you be on Employment Pass or S pass?
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I asked my headhunter to nego for a higher pay. I will see if it is possible. However I do think I will most likely be under S pass as the salary threshold for EP is too high for the current job offer.
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post Mar 3 2022, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 3 2022, 09:46 AM)
I asked my headhunter to nego for a higher pay. I will see if it is possible. However I do think I will most likely be under S pass as the salary threshold for EP is too high for the current job offer.
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All the best whatever you decide. I am.sure you have heard the work culture there is quite different. Not much of work life balance. So long as you are mentally prepared.
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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 3 2022, 09:46 AM)
I asked my headhunter to nego for a higher pay. I will see if it is possible. However I do think I will most likely be under S pass as the salary threshold for EP is too high for the current job offer.
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Get in SG first and have a feel for it. Contract manager, in-house legal, you don't need to be in court for those biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Cadence16 @ Mar 3 2022, 11:20 PM)
All the best whatever you decide. I am.sure you have heard the work culture there is quite different. Not much of work life balance.  So long as you are mentally  prepared.
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There work is work, in a way they're more productive as less lepaking around.
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SG if you can save SGD500 = RM1500 already saving, every month!
Malaysia, don't think you can save that amount with Bangla Low-salary benchmark here!

If, you opt for PR after 2-years, you definitely can get higher salary as Singaporean & have more saving upto SGD1000 = Rm3000 /per month!
I had seen my friends done that, usually the 1st 5-years need to struggle abit, after that almost like SGreans already!
If borders & the JB MRT start in 2-years time, can save even more staying in JB, buy any JB Semi-D & having a HDB not a problem!

This post has been edited by LaSat: Mar 4 2022, 12:01 AM
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Give it a go since you have this opportunity. Worst scenario, if you don't like it just come back

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