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 Moving to Singapore after 30, Too late or never too late

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rexus
post Jun 15 2022, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 15 2022, 04:17 PM)
Update: I got an offer and decided to go to Singapore. Will be there in August 2022.
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As a legal counsel as well?
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post Jun 15 2022, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 02:47 PM)
TS, I moved to SG recently, on EP.

It depends on your commitments and lifestyle honestly.

1) At 30, probably most people will be looking at settling down with a partner and have children. 4.6k in Johor, with wife working also probably can lead a decent life with 1 child (assuming household income probably 7-8k in Johor).

2) But 3.2k in Singapore, don't dream of starting a family. Will die. You will lead a single life possibly until your 40s. 3.2k can survive in Singapore as a single.

3) 3.2k in Singapore is fresh graduate level, not really the salary for a professional lawyer but hey again, thousands of Malaysians cross the border for half that amount. 

4) Going to Singapore doesn't necessarily mean you will be better career wise. Sometimes you shoot yourself in the foot. When u return to Malaysia, employers will benchmark against 3.2k, not 10k this is very important ya. Don't assume employers so generous will offer you 12-13k. They will look at what u get in Singapore, without conversion.

5) If you ok with staying single forever, yes you can come to Singapore.

6) See point 1 and 2. Need to ask yourself, where are you now and where you want to go.

If you have any questions let me know
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i wouldn't encourage someone to start a family if they will be in financial difficulties, and unable to provide a comfortable living for both the parent and children

then again, i know people who earn rm1.5k who has 2 mouth to feed

but, regardless of how much you earn, shouldn't household income be taken into consideration if mau start family?

QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Mar 1 2022, 07:26 PM)
if you're living in johor isnt it already automatic that you should aim for SG instead of KL?
just commute to SG via johor and kick back on that 6krm (3.2kSGD) job or does it not work that way?
at least your 50 pages passport will see some use compared to everyone else that has a 50 page passport but only use 3 pages at most before need to renew lol
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6krm? or you mean 10krm?
Mr.Robert
post Jun 15 2022, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(cocobunana @ Jun 15 2022, 06:22 PM)
i wouldn't encourage someone to start a family if they will be in financial difficulties, and unable to provide a comfortable living for both the parent and children

then again, i know people who earn rm1.5k who has 2 mouth to feed

but, regardless of how much you earn, shouldn't household income be taken into consideration if mau start family?
6krm? or you mean 10krm?
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I disagree with ur statement.

Your grandpa can raise up 10 children with few dollars income.

Just because today's life is more competitive and monetization, it should not stop human from procreate, regardless of ur income.

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post Jun 15 2022, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(rexus @ Jun 15 2022, 04:52 PM)
As a legal counsel as well?
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post Jun 15 2022, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(LaSat @ Mar 3 2022, 11:56 PM)
SG if you can save SGD500 = RM1500 already saving, every month!
Malaysia, don't think you can save that amount with Bangla Low-salary benchmark here!

If, you opt for PR after 2-years, you definitely can get higher salary as Singaporean & have more saving upto SGD1000 = Rm3000 /per month!
I had seen my friends done that, usually the 1st 5-years need to struggle abit, after that almost like SGreans already!
If borders & the JB MRT start in 2-years time, can save even more staying in JB, buy any JB Semi-D & having a HDB not a problem!
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When the RTS is ready in 2026, 3.5years later, more will go Spore. Can always buy jb property joint name with siblings or parents if want to get a hdb. Money in cpf will worth more when retire in 20+ years, probably 1SGD=5MYR. By then u could be a multi millionaires (MYR)
Few hitech industries that have good futures r biomed, pharmaceutical, semi-con.

This post has been edited by MGM: Jun 15 2022, 07:43 PM
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post Jun 15 2022, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 09:45 AM)
I am currently 30 years old with 5+ years of working experience in the legal industry. For my current job I am drawing a salary of RM4600+. I work in Johor btw. I feel that I am somehow stuck due to my slow career progression so I have been thinking about moving to Singapore.

I found a potential job which offers SGD3.5k at most, which means most likely they will only be paying 3.2k (optimistic?). I know for a fact that if I move to KL I could land a job that would pay me MYR5k+. So the dilemma is should I go to SG for smaller pay (disregard the conversion) and start afresh or to KL?

Appreciate any constructive view. Thanks.

Edited:

Since some of you replied asking for more details before giving advice, i thought I should supplement more info:

1. Single. No plan to start a family. In fact no plan to get into a relationship. Can foresee myself single till the day I die.

2. My previous jobs include lawyer and legal editor. Now working as a legal exec (in house).
Update [15/06/2022]

Finally received an offer after months of job applications. Just to update anyone who read this topic. Thanks.
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base on point 1: just do it!
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post Jun 16 2022, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Mar 4 2022, 02:09 PM)
If you choose to stay = what will you get from Malaysia?
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C-level taxes, failed public transport, hours of life wasted in jam~

Idk.. what is so great about Msia now (in current context) that things have gotten expensive due to inflation?
is it because of comfort zone?

QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 09:45 AM)

Update [15/06/2022]

Finally received an offer after months of job applications. Just to update anyone who read this topic. Thanks.
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Congrats, hope your EP approval goes well. Can start room hunting liao.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Jun 16 2022, 08:33 AM
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post Jun 16 2022, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Jun 15 2022, 06:47 PM)
I disagree with ur statement.

Your grandpa can raise up 10 children with few dollars income.

Just because today's life is more competitive and monetization, it should not stop human from procreate, regardless of ur income.
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Exhibit A : Numbnut




Grandpa.....10 kids.....few dollars.....



bruh....you still in the 1960s?
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post Jun 16 2022, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 09:45 AM)
I am currently 30 years old with 5+ years of working experience in the legal industry. For my current job I am drawing a salary of RM4600+. I work in Johor btw. I feel that I am somehow stuck due to my slow career progression so I have been thinking about moving to Singapore.

I found a potential job which offers SGD3.5k at most, which means most likely they will only be paying 3.2k (optimistic?). I know for a fact that if I move to KL I could land a job that would pay me MYR5k+. So the dilemma is should I go to SG for smaller pay (disregard the conversion) and start afresh or to KL?

Appreciate any constructive view. Thanks.

Edited:

Since some of you replied asking for more details before giving advice, i thought I should supplement more info:

1. Single. No plan to start a family. In fact no plan to get into a relationship. Can foresee myself single till the day I die.

2. My previous jobs include lawyer and legal editor. Now working as a legal exec (in house).
Update [15/06/2022]

Finally received an offer after months of job applications. Just to update anyone who read this topic. Thanks.
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How did you get the job? Jobstreet ? JobsDB?
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post Jun 16 2022, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(adam71 @ Jun 16 2022, 09:03 AM)
How did you get the job?  Jobstreet ? JobsDB?
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post Jun 16 2022, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 16 2022, 09:09 AM)
Jobstreet
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Some tips to start up,

1. I use this app called citymapper which shows the multiple routes using train and bus to get you from point A to point B.
The arrival timing of the bus and train is accurate to the minute so it should be a very good indicator on how long it will take you to travel from your house to your work place.

2. When renting room, there is alot of scams happening to ask you to pay deposit before viewing. But what I did recently was to enquire, viewing through online video call, see the owner and/or agent face to vet them, request for house ownership document to confirm that they are the house owners then only put deposit.

If you do all the foot work to find the house through ads on propertyguru and etc, then you should not have to pay agent fee. If you hire an agent to find you a house then you will need to discuss agent fee.

Deposit is normally 1 -2 months for a year tenancy
Single room rentals starts out at 500 for a decent HDB 800 for condo.


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post Jun 16 2022, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(TryingToSurvive @ Jun 16 2022, 09:33 AM)
Some tips to start up,

1. I use this app called citymapper which shows the multiple routes using train and bus to get you from point A to point B.
The arrival timing of the bus and train is accurate to the minute so it should be a very good indicator on how long it will take you to travel from your house to your work place.

2. When renting room, there is alot of scams happening to ask you to pay deposit before viewing. But what I did recently was to enquire, viewing through online video call, see the owner and/or agent face to vet them, request for house ownership document to confirm that they are the house owners then only put deposit.

If you do all the foot work to find the house through ads on propertyguru and etc, then you should not have to pay agent fee. If you hire an agent to find you a house then you will need to discuss agent fee.

Deposit is normally 1 -2 months for a year tenancy
Single room rentals starts out at 500 for a decent HDB 800 for condo.
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Damn thanks for such detailed explanation.

However I started surveying for common room yesterday around circle line MRT and Holand Village area. All rentals are around 900 though.
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post Jun 16 2022, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 15 2022, 07:26 PM)
Yes
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Is the pay higher than SGD3.5K? I was offered SGD5K before the pandemic hit us and kinda regret a little whenever I think back about it.
I can't even save much with my current pay so I decided to stay in Msia as I can still drive around and live quite comfortably here.

This post has been edited by ahjummma: Jun 16 2022, 10:58 AM
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post Jun 16 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(ahjummma @ Jun 16 2022, 10:58 AM)
Is the pay higher than SGD3.5K? I was offered SGD5K before the pandemic hit us and kinda regret a little whenever I think back about it.
I can't even save much with my current pay so I decided to stay in Msia as I can still drive around and live quite comfortably here.
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I was offered 4.5k. I think without car loan I could live with that pay. I do not like to go out much anyway (otaku) so the thought of not having a private car does not affect me much.

Anyway my main motivation to move there is that my condo is gonna be completed in 2 years time and I doubt with my current salry including increment I could afford the mortgage without burning a hole in my wallet. So I took a chance at the currency rate and decided to move there. Ultimate goal is to earn SGD and invest real estate in MYR.

Whether to convert citizenship or not, current plan is not to but if it affects the career advancement then might reconsider the decision.

This post has been edited by weehournow: Jun 16 2022, 11:23 AM
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post Jun 16 2022, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Jun 15 2022, 06:47 PM)
I disagree with ur statement.

Your grandpa can raise up 10 children with few dollars income.

Just because today's life is more competitive and monetization, it should not stop human from procreate, regardless of ur income.
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Comparing grandpa's era with current era?

Do you want to repeat what grandpas did back then and let the children suffer financially or stop schooling after SPM?
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post Jun 16 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 16 2022, 11:22 AM)
I was offered 4.5k. I think without car loan I could live with that pay. I do not like to go out much anyway (otaku) so the thought of not having a private car does not affect me much.

Anyway my main motivation to move there is that my condo is gonna be completed in 2 years time and I doubt with my current salry including increment I could afford the mortgage without burning a hole in my wallet. So I took a chance at the currency rate and decided to move there. Ultimate goal is to earn SGD and invest real estate in MYR.

Whether to convert citizenship or not, current plan is not to but if it affects the career advancement then might reconsider the decision.
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Aiya 4.5k then house loan sap sap sui oledi!

Wana save on rent then don’t la go find place like holl V.
Stay further out from city centre up north ke or west ke
Nearer to mrt sure expensive one
U find a few stops away from mrt la then take shuttle bus. Can save some money. It’s either convenience or money lo
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post Jun 16 2022, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 16 2022, 11:22 AM)
I was offered 4.5k. I think without car loan I could live with that pay. I do not like to go out much anyway (otaku) so the thought of not having a private car does not affect me much.

Anyway my main motivation to move there is that my condo is gonna be completed in 2 years time and I doubt with my current salry including increment I could afford the mortgage without burning a hole in my wallet. So I took a chance at the currency rate and decided to move there. Ultimate goal is to earn SGD and invest real estate in MYR.

Whether to convert citizenship or not, current plan is not to but if it affects the career advancement then might reconsider the decision.
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4.5k is quite a good offer as a start here in singapore. Usually people will not consider about the citizenship conversion so soon. you will have to come and stay for a few years first, and then apply for the SPR. After that, If you like the life in singapore, and would like to build your family here/stay here for long term , then you can apply for the citizenship.

By the way, earning SGD and investing real estate in MYR is not very difficult, the more difficult thing is managing your properties in malaysia after the purchase.
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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 16 2022, 11:22 AM)
I was offered 4.5k. I think without car loan I could live with that pay. I do not like to go out much anyway (otaku) so the thought of not having a private car does not affect me much.

Anyway my main motivation to move there is that my condo is gonna be completed in 2 years time and I doubt with my current salry including increment I could afford the mortgage without burning a hole in my wallet. So I took a chance at the currency rate and decided to move there. Ultimate goal is to earn SGD and invest real estate in MYR.

Whether to convert citizenship or not, current plan is not to but if it affects the career advancement then might reconsider the decision.
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All the best bro.
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QUOTE(weehournow @ Jun 16 2022, 11:22 AM)
Whether to convert citizenship or not, current plan is not to but if it affects the career advancement then might reconsider the decision.
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only consider to change your citizenship to Singaporean IF you have your own family and kids growing up in SG with you.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jun 16 2022, 01:31 PM)
only consider to change your citizenship to Singaporean IF you have your own family and kids growing up in SG with you.
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although most who converted are those with family and kids staying in singapore, i observe that nowadays there are also quite a number of singles who are converting to sgp citizenship. probably they like the life here in singapore, and would like to retire here.

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