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 Moving to Singapore after 30, Too late or never too late

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post Jun 17 2022, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(weehournow @ Mar 1 2022, 09:45 AM)
I am currently 30 years old with 5+ years of working experience in the legal industry. For my current job I am drawing a salary of RM4600+. I work in Johor btw. I feel that I am somehow stuck due to my slow career progression so I have been thinking about moving to Singapore.

I found a potential job which offers SGD3.5k at most, which means most likely they will only be paying 3.2k (optimistic?). I know for a fact that if I move to KL I could land a job that would pay me MYR5k+. So the dilemma is should I go to SG for smaller pay (disregard the conversion) and start afresh or to KL?

Appreciate any constructive view. Thanks.

Edited:

Since some of you replied asking for more details before giving advice, i thought I should supplement more info:

1. Single. No plan to start a family. In fact no plan to get into a relationship. Can foresee myself single till the day I die.

2. My previous jobs include lawyer and legal editor. Now working as a legal exec (in house).
Update [15/06/2022]

Finally received an offer after months of job applications. Just to update anyone who read this topic. Thanks.
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post Jun 27 2022, 05:51 PM

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Dear all sifus,

tumpang question ya. If one age btw 35-39 with a year of working experience in spore with Doctorate degree. Is it possible to get PR approved ?
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post Jun 27 2022, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pakatan SinMa Plus @ Jun 16 2022, 01:22 PM)
4.5k is quite a good offer as a start here in singapore. Usually people will not consider about the citizenship conversion so soon. you will have to come and stay for a few years first, and then apply for the SPR. After that, If you like the life in singapore, and would like to build your family here/stay here for long term , then you can apply for the citizenship.

By the way, earning SGD and investing real estate in MYR is not very difficult, the more difficult thing is managing your properties in malaysia after the purchase.
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Hi any tips in managing property in KL while working in SG? I am in this dilemma at the moment.
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post Jun 27 2022, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(beebo101 @ Jun 27 2022, 05:51 PM)
Dear all sifus,

tumpang question ya. If one age btw 35-39 with a year of working experience in spore with Doctorate degree. Is it possible to get PR approved ?
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Yes but why the rush?
Wait and work for another 2 years confirm get PR.
Plus if you Malaysian chinese and no bad record 99% will get.
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post Jun 27 2022, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 16 2022, 08:30 AM)
C-level taxes, failed public transport, hours of life wasted in jam~

Idk.. what is so great about Msia now (in current context) that things have gotten expensive due to inflation?
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That's not excatly fair la.
Sure Malaysia has its bad points but so is Singapore la.
Speaking about cost of living and inflation, Singapore GST is confirmed to go up to 9% in 2024 (8% in 1Jan 2023). Prices of goods and services are going to hike exponentially.
And guess what? Despite recession, interest rate hike, etc property prices and rentals going up like crazy.
Meanwhile salary except for a few sector like Technology and IT is generally flat.
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post Jun 28 2022, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Don't Troll me! @ Mar 1 2022, 10:05 AM)
if you accept the social life there why not.. mind you.. it would not easy to work with singaporean.. they are very fast paced and high in result.

my friend work there for 5 years and salary is gooding (around 8k sgd) but he still eating alone everyday at canteen because all of his colleague are singaporean.
Note - he is friendly and talkative person

your choice smile.gif
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Update: my friend recently back to Malaysia and he brought back around RM600k in saving after worked at spore for 7-8 years. He plan to retired for a year but recently one local company offered him RM18k lol.. no rest day for him haha


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post Jun 28 2022, 01:11 AM

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may i add on the integrating part. i can safely put a 80% figure of msian working in sg bring across the typical msian characteristics which is shunned upon and many instances msian themselves dont realize, lets make it short in point form:

- Trashing sg food on a daily basis
- huge tendency to convert office spaces into mini chinatown speaking ching chong,
- broken & poor command of english
- weird chinese accent (Being a neutral listener as a semi banana myself, i do distinguish the 'kampong' 'canto' style of msian's mandarin
- converting sgd/myr mindset in every transaction = cheapskate calculative
- huge tendency to backstab/being gossipy in workplace (Mind you this trait is common across every individual, just that msian are more fond of it)
- lower social standing / usually work eat sleep hiking save money boring routine and lifestyle

In msia we segregate btwn Eng & chinese educated. By and large in comparison, everyone in sg is what we perceive as 'Eng' educated, and most msian working in sg are chinese ed. Seen plenty alr, like chances how the fug an eastern coast kampong guy from Kelantan can integrate easily with a pure english speaking city-dweller, indulging the same life upbringing. Hence, those who harp on msian & sg having similar culture is actually a fallacy. And all these top off with xenophobia of locals against 3rd world foreigners (Malaysia is a third world country if you have not realized) snatching their PMET job (Thanks to the open leg policy of PAP gahmen).

Locals against msian in a subtle way has never been a new thing. Though we may never be able to 100% integrate, but its how much the extent that we can from 0-100%. Those from KL at least by far has more in common than those typical ones from JB, etc. Hypothetically ask urself, if ur workplace is invaded by Indo chinese who chances bear 50 50% loyalty to the country, do u still find the need to have the decency to treat them? Simply its no, cos u dont owe these transient beings anything.
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post Jun 28 2022, 02:28 AM

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post Jun 28 2022, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Jun 28 2022, 01:11 AM)
may i add on the integrating part. i can safely put a 80% figure of msian working in sg bring across the typical msian characteristics which is shunned upon and many instances msian themselves dont realize, lets make it short in point form:

- Trashing sg food on a daily basis
- huge tendency to convert office spaces into mini chinatown speaking ching chong,
- broken & poor command of english
- weird chinese accent (Being a neutral listener as a semi banana myself, i do distinguish the 'kampong' 'canto' style of msian's mandarin
- converting sgd/myr mindset in every transaction = cheapskate calculative
- huge tendency to backstab/being gossipy in workplace (Mind you this trait is common across every individual, just that msian are more fond of it)
- lower social standing / usually work eat sleep hiking save money boring routine and lifestyle

In msia we segregate btwn Eng & chinese educated. By and large in comparison, everyone in sg is what we perceive as 'Eng' educated, and most msian working in sg are chinese ed. Seen plenty alr, like chances how the fug an eastern coast kampong guy from Kelantan can integrate easily with a pure english speaking city-dweller, indulging the same life upbringing. Hence, those who harp on msian & sg having similar culture is actually a fallacy. And all these top off with xenophobia of locals against 3rd world foreigners (Malaysia is a third world country if you have not realized) snatching their PMET job (Thanks to the open leg policy of PAP gahmen).

Locals against msian in a subtle way has never been a new thing. Though we may never be able to 100% integrate, but its how much the extent that we can from 0-100%. Those from KL at least by far has more in common than those typical ones from JB, etc. Hypothetically ask urself, if ur workplace is invaded by Indo chinese who chances bear 50 50% loyalty to the country, do u still find the need to have the decency to treat them? Simply its no, cos u dont owe these transient beings anything.
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If you’re from KL and often converse in English, 9/10 Singaporeans can’t tell the difference between a local and Malaysian

This is even more true if you’re a Malaysian Chinese who claimed to be a non mandarin/hokkien speaker [banana] and studied abroad [say LSE for example]

Malaysians [regardless of race] are the easiest expat to integrate to Singapore by virtue of our common communal ties, values and looks and appearance
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post Jun 28 2022, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(maidenless @ Jun 28 2022, 07:01 AM)
If you’re from KL and often converse in English, 9/10 Singaporeans can’t tell the difference between a local and Malaysian

This is even more true if you’re a Malaysian Chinese who claimed to be a non mandarin/hokkien speaker [banana] and studied abroad [say LSE for example]

Malaysians [regardless of race] are the easiest expat to integrate to Singapore by virtue of our common communal ties, values and looks and appearance
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if you can speak hokkien, they will even more WOW at you. speak hokkien to the hawker store aunties and you might get special treatment too

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post Jun 28 2022, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Jun 27 2022, 07:17 PM)
Hi any tips in managing property in KL while working in SG? I am in this dilemma at the moment.
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house in Shah Alam has been vacant since we moved. But have a friend staying there at times (she alternates between her hometown and KL depending on what work she does) to help take care of the place for us.

only managed to make a trip back after 2.5 years recently, and started clearing up our things for disposal, with the plans to eventually sell it off. We're lucky somewhat, as we only moved in for about a year+ before moving, so not too much stuff accumulated yet.

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post Jun 28 2022, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Jun 28 2022, 01:11 AM)
may i add on the integrating part. i can safely put a 80% figure of msian working in sg bring across the typical msian characteristics which is shunned upon and many instances msian themselves dont realize, lets make it short in point form:

- Trashing sg food on a daily basis
- huge tendency to convert office spaces into mini chinatown speaking ching chong,
- broken & poor command of english
- weird chinese accent (Being a neutral listener as a semi banana myself, i do distinguish the 'kampong' 'canto' style of msian's mandarin
- converting sgd/myr mindset in every transaction = cheapskate calculative
- huge tendency to backstab/being gossipy in workplace (Mind you this trait is common across every individual, just that msian are more fond of it)
- lower social standing / usually work eat sleep hiking save money boring routine and lifestyle

In msia we segregate btwn Eng & chinese educated. By and large in comparison, everyone in sg is what we perceive as 'Eng' educated, and most msian working in sg are chinese ed. Seen plenty alr, like chances how the fug an eastern coast kampong guy from Kelantan can integrate easily with a pure english speaking city-dweller, indulging the same life upbringing. Hence, those who harp on msian & sg having similar culture is actually a fallacy. And all these top off with xenophobia of locals against 3rd world foreigners (Malaysia is a third world country if you have not realized) snatching their PMET job (Thanks to the open leg policy of PAP gahmen).

Locals against msian in a subtle way has never been a new thing. Though we may never be able to 100% integrate, but its how much the extent that we can from 0-100%. Those from KL at least by far has more in common than those typical ones from JB, etc. Hypothetically ask urself, if ur workplace is invaded by Indo chinese who chances bear 50 50% loyalty to the country, do u still find the need to have the decency to treat them? Simply its no, cos u dont owe these transient beings anything.
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Sounds like you are butthurt and feel embarrassed that Malaysians behave like Malaysians
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post Jun 28 2022, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Jun 28 2022, 01:11 AM)
may i add on the integrating part. i can safely put a 80% figure of msian working in sg bring across the typical msian characteristics which is shunned upon and many instances msian themselves dont realize, lets make it short in point form:

- Trashing sg food on a daily basis
- huge tendency to convert office spaces into mini chinatown speaking ching chong,
- broken & poor command of english
- weird chinese accent (Being a neutral listener as a semi banana myself, i do distinguish the 'kampong' 'canto' style of msian's mandarin
- converting sgd/myr mindset in every transaction = cheapskate calculative
- huge tendency to backstab/being gossipy in workplace (Mind you this trait is common across every individual, just that msian are more fond of it)
- lower social standing / usually work eat sleep hiking save money boring routine and lifestyle

In msia we segregate btwn Eng & chinese educated. By and large in comparison, everyone in sg is what we perceive as 'Eng' educated, and most msian working in sg are chinese ed. Seen plenty alr, like chances how the fug an eastern coast kampong guy from Kelantan can integrate easily with a pure english speaking city-dweller, indulging the same life upbringing. Hence, those who harp on msian & sg having similar culture is actually a fallacy. And all these top off with xenophobia of locals against 3rd world foreigners (Malaysia is a third world country if you have not realized) snatching their PMET job (Thanks to the open leg policy of PAP gahmen).

Locals against msian in a subtle way has never been a new thing. Though we may never be able to 100% integrate, but its how much the extent that we can from 0-100%. Those from KL at least by far has more in common than those typical ones from JB, etc. Hypothetically ask urself, if ur workplace is invaded by Indo chinese who chances bear 50 50% loyalty to the country, do u still find the need to have the decency to treat them? Simply its no, cos u dont owe these transient beings anything.
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Let's be honest here. Isn't this the excat same complains by the malays in malaysia against malaysian chinese ? So i am not sure what you are trying to insinuate here? Are you closet sinkie trying to take a veiled jab at malaysian chinese?

This post has been edited by Rolexseller123: Jun 28 2022, 08:51 AM
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post Jun 28 2022, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jun 28 2022, 08:31 AM)
Sounds like you are butthurt and feel embarrassed that Malaysians behave like Malaysians
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He probably read too much comments on edmw.
Just know that edmw opinion does not represent the opinion of majority of singaporean. Edmw is a forum for degenerate, borderline mental illness, bbfa and loser bottom feeding 20% of singaporeans to vent frustration. Its kinda like reading comments on some ketuanan forums and think it applies in general. Their comments are quite frankly laughable at best.

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post Jun 28 2022, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Rolexseller123 @ Jun 28 2022, 08:54 AM)
He probably read too much comments on edmw.
Just know that edmw opinion does not represent the opinion of majority of singaporean. Edmw is a forum for degenerate, borderline mental illness, bbfa and loser bottom feeding 20% of singaporeans to vent frustration. Its kinda like reading comments on some ketuanan forums and think it applies in general. Their comments are quite frankly laughable at best.
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post Jun 28 2022, 09:24 AM

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i work in IT, move to SG 6 years ago, i was mid 30 during that time
i moving my whole family (wife and 2 kids) together.
took me sometime to settle down.
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post Jun 28 2022, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Rolexseller123 @ Jun 27 2022, 10:45 PM)
Yes but why the rush?
Wait and work for another 2 years confirm get PR.
Plus if you Malaysian chinese and no bad record 99% will get.
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Is there an age concern to get Singapore PR approvale.g chances for approval is higher for age 39 and below and when hitting 40 approval rate will be lower ?
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QUOTE(beebo101 @ Jun 28 2022, 04:44 PM)
Is there an age concern to get Singapore PR approvale.g chances for approval is higher for age 39 and below and when hitting 40 approval rate will be lower ?
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Nobody knows as the criterias are not made publicy known.
However based on hearsay, if you are in a white collared job with a degree, relevant work experience and decent pay i.e. on an EP, it would be favourable.

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