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 WGT Fifa 2007 Rules, Updated on 23 October 2007

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post Sep 23 2007, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(razin_iylia12 @ Sep 23 2007, 11:50 AM)
International again?Damn it!!
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Internationals? isn't we gonna choose a club this time around for WGT?
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QUOTE(razin_iylia12 @ Sep 23 2007, 11:50 AM)
International again?Damn it!!
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QUOTE(neorage_x @ Sep 23 2007, 03:48 PM)
Internationals? isn't we gonna choose a club this time around for WGT?
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Please don't complain about whether it's International or Club. Any which of it will have no difference. Learn to use both of them.

QUOTE(luige @ Sep 23 2007, 03:03 PM)
if u guys volunteer to become marshal, then i will have 1 marshal for each game biggrin.gif

if ther's not internet connection, ok...
- Q combinations is banned
- No DIRECT LONG BALL TO STRIKER POSITION / FURTHEST PLAYER
- Long ball which required challenges will still be banned


at the moment, tat's it
i will update the rules by tmr
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Yeah Luige, those are the rules i'm supporting and suggesting as well thumbup.gif

Another thing i would like to add, I hope there's internet connection as well. Not for only FIFAbot, but also for the Online Patcher. I believe that the Online Patcher needs internet connection to work. If there's no internet connection available, the Online Patcher will not work and the game speed will be NORMAL and the difficulty level is not WORLD CLASS, like what happened during WCG. Since the rules stated we should play FAST and WORLD CLASS, then i think we should really play like how the rules have stated. Unless, the Offline Patcher will work for our versions because it was said that the Offline Patcher will probably work only for German, France and UK versions. Anyway, i think i will do some experiments on both the Online and Offline patchers and will get to you soon.

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u dont get wut i mean
furthest player means no matter which player, a defender,midfielder, striker or even goalkeeper who is in the position beside your opponents last defender, it will consider as furthest position.

got it ar?
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post Sep 23 2007, 08:38 PM

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Which rule of FIFA 07 is true?In this forum or at the website.(cause the website says can use international and club)
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post Sep 23 2007, 08:44 PM

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It HAS DIFFERENCE.It has difference in quality between the international and club.Besides, ive never got a chance to use a club in any competitions ive ever enter.

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QUOTE(bpwx @ Sep 23 2007, 05:50 PM)
Your second point : About this furthest player thing, its quite hard to judge... Seriusly... How do you determine the furthest player? Sometimes in the game, the striker can be in the midfield position even when they set the striker in the striker position when setting their team managements.... Sometimes, midfielders can be in striker positions in counter attacks and/or when the player sets his team to 'attack mode'....

Your third point : You should know that clearances with 'D' and 'A' are simultaneously long balls which requires challenges as well... For example, when I clear the ball with 'D' and 'A', the ball will then reach the place where my striker fights with the defender for the header, thus becoming the 'long ball that requires a challenge'.... By banning it, you're actually banning the clearance using 'D' and 'A' as well..... Like what highwind said before, its almost impossible to defend by banning the usage of it... To be honest, normally in fighting for the ball in the air during the challenge for the ball from the long ball, the defending player will have the advantage, for me at least. Because the attacking player will be looking to chest the ball while the defending player will be looking to head the ball...So I don't see any reason to ban it...

P.S. I'm not trying to be bossy in demanding that my stuff be made the rules, but I think I speak for most of the FIFA participants out there when stating my case....
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QUOTE(bpwx @ Sep 23 2007, 07:42 PM)
When defending, I clear the ball in a counter attack to Fernando Torress. Fernando Torress is my "furthest player" while Fabregas is not my furthest player, but my 2nd furthest player, who's nearby and starts moving. When Torress receives the ball, he then passes to Fabregas who is now further away from him... My opponent then complains that I did a long ball to Fernando Torress, who was my furthest player.... I argue that Torress is NOT my most furthest player, but Fabregas is... And we argue and argue.....See what I mean?
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BPWX, i think you are still unclear with the rules. I think the 3 rules are good enough.

Again, let's not forget what's the long ball issue is.

LONG BALL STRAIGHT TO THE PLAYER WHO CAN EASILY RECEIVES THE BALL AND RUN STRAIGHT TOWARDS TO THE GOAL TO HAVE A 1V1 CHANCE WHILE THE OPPOSING TEAM'S DEFENDER CAN ONLY WATCH IN HORROR!

Ok with that, just forget about whether the player is a defender, midfielder or striker. It doesn't matter. As long as a long ball is sent from own half and directly to a player who got past the last defender, receive it and start sprinting like mad cow straight to the keeper, THIS IS NOT ALLOWED! And this is darn obvious to see. Whether it's fair or unfair. Once you see your opponent did this, just raise your hand and ask for the marshal, AT THE SAME TIME, warn your opponent about it.

You are just making unnecessary comments on the clearance rule. Before that long balls are banned and it's unacceptable because we can't clear the ball. Now we can clear ball but you still want to comment on whether you can challenge the ball to continue your attack? It's already good enough for you to clear the ball at the first place. And i tell you, if you clear the ball from your penalty box area with D of course, the ball will end up in your own half. Only if you use A to clear with full bar, the ball might reach the opponent's half. In this case, just let your opponent wins the possession while you feel grateful that you've cleared the ball from a dangerous situation. This is not a necessary thing to be worried of i think.

Regarding your second post, about the Torres situation, i don't think there's any problem to it. As long as the long ball doesn't result in a DIRECT 1V1 CHANCE, then it's not a situation which is UNFAIR. The thing here is Torres who received the ball first, then only he passes to the other player. This case is fair and it does not create any lame and easy 1v1 chance.

Please do not just look at the rule but please imagine also how something will be looked as UNFAIR play. You guys start to include other situations other than the straight long ball to the player who's standing right behind the last defender and NOT GETTING AN OFFSIDE.

Again, i think my diagram explains all. Any situations are allowed but as long as a player is standing with the opposing team's last defender, you are not allow to pass to him. This can be clearly seen as unfair when the player starts running past the defender while the ball is still on the air, receives it and starts running towards the keeper without any other defenders around to stop him. Please remember that this applies to long ball from OWN HALF straight to the opponent's half.

*Note that now i start to use the term PLAYER instead of STRIKER. Because it doesn't matter what the receiving player is. As long as the situation is any of your player from your own half sends a high and long ball to the opponent's half and ANY PLAYER who runs past the last defender without any offside and straight get an easy 1v1 chance, it's not allowed. If any of these situations happen, you're expecting your opponent to kick the ball out of play or he does not run straight to the goal. If you accidentally sent a long ball to your player and you see it's kinda unfair, then just BE A MAN and lose the possession OR you can pass back to your own half to retain possession and slowly attack back up. Think this to avoid any arguments. If a gamer is good, long balls are not the only way to score. In football, it needs creativity to create chances to score. I rest my long and repetitive explanations yawn.gif smile.gif


Added on September 23, 2007, 9:26 pm
QUOTE(razin_iylia12 @ Sep 23 2007, 08:44 PM)
It HAS DIFFERENCE.It has difference in quality between the international and club.Besides, ive never got a chance to use a club in any competitions ive ever enter.
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Yeah it has a difference. You only can choose the best team THAT SUITS YOU in either International or Club. So start doing some research and picking a team in INTERNATIONAL to start your practice. There's no use to only stick to a team to play with in FIFA 07. Start trying other teams as well, International teams and Club teams. At the end of the day, during the tournament, your opponent will also use an International team. If you like you can choose the same team as he's using, so there's no argument to say "His team is better than mine". It's all about your own creativity, skills and formation you use. Good luck! biggrin.gif

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no direct long which leads to a 1 v 1 situation

stop writing essay bpwx
the more u write, the worst it gets
i will make a rule everything against u
its very clear..i repeat, no direct long ball which leads to a 1 v 1 situation

even tho i dun play fifa, if u do watch football, u will get wut i mean

no more long comments plz
i wont take note of the examples becoz the rules stated clearly already
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haha like i said luige rules tongue.gif
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QUOTE(luige @ Sep 24 2007, 12:00 AM)
no direct long which leads to a 1 v 1 situation

stop writing essay bpwx
the more u write, the worst it gets
i will make a rule everything against u
its very clear..i repeat, no direct long ball which leads to a 1 v 1 situation

even tho i dun play fifa, if u do watch football, u will get wut i mean

no more long comments plz
i wont take note of the examples becoz the rules stated clearly already
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this statement is clear enough,luige ! thanks!
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QUOTE(luige @ Sep 23 2007, 03:03 PM)
if u guys volunteer to become marshal, then i will have 1 marshal for each game biggrin.gif

if ther's not internet connection, ok...
- Q combinations is banned
- No DIRECT LONG BALL TO STRIKER POSITION / FURTHEST PLAYER
- Long ball which required challenges will still be banned

at the moment, tat's it
i will update the rules by tmr
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No long comments or examples... luige... just want to ask about how do the players go about when encounter or did the above banned moves? Are the action suchs as:-

1. Goals being scored the above methods will be disallowed and the oppossing player that did the invalid move be given a yellow card for unsportsmanship or just a warning?

2. If the player accidentally does the move, be it without an intention, what should the player do?
a. kick the ball out for throw in for the opposing player?
b. end the attacking run and repass back the playin ball back to his midfielders or defenders (push the ball back
below the half line and continues the game with the ball in his side?)

What are the steps or procedure on handling banned moves/illegal moves? How to go about it? Maybe luige can provide some insight on how to deal with the matter. Thanks, no hurry for the reply, take your time.

kEnN-iEd

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QUOTE(bpwx @ Sep 23 2007, 09:40 PM)
What if I made a full 'A' bar to one of my striker.. It didn't result in a 1v1 chance automaticaly with my striker already running to receive the ball, but my striker had to WIN the ball by chesting the ball, then turning around and out-running the defender, resulting in a 1v1 chance for me? Is THIS allowed?

Now another issue, what if in a counter attack where my opponents throw all their players in attack already, leaving almost NO defenders behind. I cleared the ball with 'D' and the ball arrived on my striker... Since there are no defenders as they were too busy attacking, it is legal for my striker to run all the way for a 1v1 chance?
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Why you wanna ask so much about such questions leh? Well just don't do a long ball from your own half to your striker. That's IT! Don't care chest or win or struggle or steal, just don't do any long balls to the furthest player to avoid problems to yourself. As i've said, if you're good enough, you don't need to depend on such situations in order to get goals only. Pass the ball back and slowly work your way up.

In that issue, i knew what kinda situation you're meaning as i've tried before. Normally your strikers will still stand in the middle line while the opposing team defenders are all up. So just cross the ball to the strikers who are still on the middle line. IN MY OWN OPINION, i don't see this as any unfair play. It's the carelessness of the opponent himself to press Q Q Q Q Q too many times until the defenders are all up. So if you ask me, i guess that's allowed. But you know Luige is da boss here! laugh.gif

QUOTE(luige @ Sep 24 2007, 12:00 AM)
no direct long which leads to a 1 v 1 situation
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Yeah Luige just stick to the 3 rules. thumbup.gif

And thanks for the time in reviewing our problems and suggestions. notworthy.gif


Added on September 24, 2007, 2:57 am
QUOTE(ken0777 @ Sep 24 2007, 02:41 AM)
1. Goals being scored the above methods will be disallowed and the oppossing player that did the invalid move be given a yellow card for unsportsmanship or just a warning?

2. If the player accidentally does the move, be it without an intention, what should the player do?
    a. kick the ball out for throw in for the opposing player?
    b. end the attacking run and repass back the playin ball back to his midfielders or defenders (push the ball back
        below the half line and continues the game with the ball in his side?)
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1. Goals will definitely not be counted if scored in such forbidden methods. I suggest gamers to just raise your arm or stand up to call for a marshal as soon as you see your opponent continues with his run towards your goal. I think gamers should be briefed first about the new rules before starting. Even after that, some gamers might do it on accidental. I don't think anyone will dare to do it since they have been briefed and warned. If you can notice your opponent purposely do the long ball and run straight towards your goal, he definitely will get a yellow card for his act.

2. In my opinion, i think option (b) should be used. As long as you don't do the unfair long ball to get an easy goal, that's good enough. Have some sportsmanship and pass the ball all the way back below the half line. With this i think it's fair to both gamers. Whoever wins the ball, he gets the possession. And if the attacking side wins the ball, he's fair enough to not launch an attack but pass back instead in order not to create the lame 1v1 chance. Well this sounds crazy if you are talking about this in REAL FOOTBALL laugh.gif but well this is FIFA 07 and there are rules, so we just will have to follow the rules and after all rules are there for FAIR PLAYS thumbup.gif

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