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TSFyonne
post Sep 18 2007, 09:54 AM, updated 19y ago

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Forgive me if this is old news.

It seem that AMD is goin go release this 3x (triple core) proc, maybe for those who think dual core arent suffiecient n quad is overkill. I dunno, but it seem pretty interesting, perhaps for those who wanted more than dual core but cant support to get quad. Well we have to wait to see it coming in this 1st quarter of 2008

source http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33895/135/
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post Sep 18 2007, 09:56 AM

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already know this few days ago. nothin interestin IMHO. just bad yield and trying to sell it as tri core.

this is the advantages of AMD proc design.
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:04 AM

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duo core tri core quad core ... there are no differences if the applications u are running are not optimised to take full advantage of them
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:06 AM

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more choice always better smile.gif triple-core Toliman and Heka ( wat a name sweat.gif )
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When you can't make 4 make 3 and call it a feature. biggrin.gif

But it'll be interesting to see how AMD markets this one: duals are cheap and quads are just slightly costlier; any tri-core would have to fit in the small gap in between. AMD already has their hands full with the fallout from Barcelona's muted launch and lukewarm market response + getting Phenom out. More SKUs = more work = more issues.
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(eye @ Sep 18 2007, 10:04 AM)
duo core tri core quad core ... there are no differences if the applications u are running are not optimised to take full advantage of them
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I am sure those days will come whereby utilization of those cores will be there. Heck, getting dual core nowadays are getting cheaper.. smile.gif
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Lolz, Isn't it obvious AMD trying to clear their old stocks before Phenoms coming?? laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:38 AM

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when it comes to computers ah, the next step is almost always 2x the previous (other than processor model and GPU that is).

this is true especially for RAM sizes and processor cores. smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 18 2007, 10:30 AM)
When you can't make 4 make 3 and call it a feature.  biggrin.gif

But it'll be interesting to see how AMD markets this one: duals are cheap and quads are just slightly costlier; any tri-core would have to fit in the small gap in between. AMD already has their hands full with the fallout from Barcelona's muted launch and lukewarm market response + getting Phenom out. More SKUs = more work = more issues.
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actually tri core is a quad core with 1 of the core being cut off. so they stil releasing quad core with tri-core as 'middle-end' proc i guess
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 17 2007, 09:30 PM)
When you can't make 4 make 3 and call it a feature.  biggrin.gif

But it'll be interesting to see how AMD markets this one: duals are cheap and quads are just slightly costlier; any tri-core would have to fit in the small gap in between. AMD already has their hands full with the fallout from Barcelona's muted launch and lukewarm market response + getting Phenom out. More SKUs = more work = more issues.
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Indeed, marketing will be interesting. As far as intel is concerned, there seems to be no gap between quad and dual cores, pricing wise. The Q6600 is already really cheap for a quad core.


QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Sep 17 2007, 09:37 PM)
Lolz, Isn't it obvious AMD trying to clear their old stocks before Phenoms coming?? laugh.gif
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This IS a phenom.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Sep 18 2007, 10:54 AM)
Indeed, marketing will be interesting. As far as intel is concerned, there seems to be no gap between quad and dual cores, pricing wise. The Q6600 is already really cheap for a quad core.
This IS a phenom.
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post Sep 18 2007, 12:20 PM

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hmmm~ i think triple core is more efficient than double dual core (current intel quad)...
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I reckon AMD will do anythin to catchup.. by the time this is released intel quad will be so cheap.. GOOD LUCK AMD! blush.gif

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post Sep 18 2007, 01:09 PM

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Speaking of bad yield, what if the quad core have two defective cores? Can they still make use of the other 2 cores?
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 18 2007, 12:09 AM)
Speaking of bad yield, what if the quad core have two defective cores? Can they still make use of the other 2 cores?
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Of course. If they can disable one, there's no reason they can't disable 2 or 3.
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I agree that it doesn't necessarily have to be a matter of having a core that won't work at all. If one of them won't clock as high as the other three it may make more sense to just disable it.

i.e. 3 cores are stable at 2.5GHz, but one of the cores isn't stable past 2.0GHz - so do you sell it as a 2.5GHz tri-core CPU or a 2.0GHz quad-core?

I would thik that AMD would be more interested in fixing the root level manufactuing problem though.

Another way to think about it, may be that AMD has been able to boost the clock speed across the CPU, but only by cutting power to one of the cores. (in other words there is not a problem with any of the cores, but if you disable any one of them, then you can clock the rest of the CPU higher.) If this is the case though it would seem to suggest that there is an archetectual problem with heat dissipation though.
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post Sep 18 2007, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:20 PM)
hmmm~ i think triple core is more efficient than double dual core (current intel quad)...
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Hehe,why you say so?Any documents or benchmark from internal? brows.gif
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:19 PM

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lol like ruffstuff said, it's not a feature, it's just their yields are blardy low. Oh Monolithic....when will people learn it's not as good as it's cracked up to be.
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You guys forgot about the sub-Q6600 market.

Market demand is a LOT less in the Q6600 area (even when it's that cheap), most people would pay RM500-600 for a decent mid/high chip, no more.

X3 could be that possibility, clock the chips higher, price them lower, they have the flexibility to do so- as these weren't even supposed to be actual retail chips.

That said, I'd like to see Intel responding with an even cheaper quaddie. And also cut the darn platform price too.
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post Sep 18 2007, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Sep 18 2007, 04:59 PM)
That said, I'd like to see Intel responding with an even cheaper quaddie. And also cut the darn platform price too.
There is already a cheaper quaddie than the Q6600. Do you know that the Xeon X3210 is actually using LGA775 package? brows.gif

Check it out: Neoseeker: X3210 Xeon Core 2 Quad: Overclocking Monster in Sheep's Clothing! wink.gif

Sooner or later, the quad prices will come down even further with Phenom and Penryn on the horizon wink.gif


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