More due to the full time AWD than the engine itself.

I read that XV is actually having very good FC despite having full time AWD. But not forester.

in terms of maintenance yes in long term which is a big unknown and depending on luck as well, unless being well prepared with deep pockets shouldn't be an issue.
But with my current situation, having cx5 is a safer bet with some control while trade off some of the safety features which forester doesn't have. Some of the feature is a good to have but it's not mandatory, as I believe cars will have more tech stuff in coming years and more features becoming as standards.

in summary I've gone for cx5, park this thread as a reference if any individuals who will face this delima in future.

Well, is all about your feet control & also the place/traffic your drive.
We got member manage to get around 6~7L/100km for latest SK Forester, most of them get it if you can control your rpm around 2k range and on highway speed around 80~110km/h. The previous SJ Forester gen my best record is around 8L/100km, not to bad for such a big SUV with permanent AWD.

which CX-5 did you buy in the end?

Good luck with the new purchase.
Anyway for long term maintenance Mazda is also a mix bag.
If your ride got problem especially after warranty, their parts is not cheap to replace also.
Within 5 years should be worry free much.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 13 2021, 05:56 PM

2.0 high spec

Thanks! If the forester offers 5 yrs free maintenance/parts/labour, i would 100% go for it.
Cant brain why forester doesn’t get the same treatment as xv

Same with my family car, 2.0 high line

any reason why not the 2.0L CRV? Its the design right? I mean its ok, I also love the shape...Or is it at least due to handling ?

I have tested the CRV but not the CX-5. If I were to based on the comparisons online, I read that CX-5 has even better handling.

Crv 2.0 doesn’t have the safety specs with we want, which is no honda sensing. Where the 1.5 turbo has, BUT its out of budget

It just a typical Japanese car. Parts are average price or similar to any other Japanese car parts price. Brakepad, absorber, spark plug, driveshaft. For brakepad, the most expensive at sc is for honda car, rm700/pair. But low quality when it will get brake juddering issue.

Neither do you get it with cx-5 2.0 high spec right?

Well, not accounted with the gearbox & also oil pump low pressure issue if unlucky (VVT issue usually follow with this), engine mounting also usually need to change after 100k. All these are not cheap tho to replace or fix after warranty ends, price is not average bro if went with original Mazda parts. Nowadays Mazda already consider as premium and near to continental part price already as they already push up their standards unless you go for China or other OEM parts.

If not mistaken you can ask for it, but the car price might be higher as is just add in the maintenance cost over the 5 years into the car price.
Previously when i purchase my Subaru, the sales person give me 2 options 1 is with all the maintenance cost included, while another is just free labor cost. i choose the later as i don't want to loan more money to add up the interest.

engine mounting for Honda also not cheap. Rm2.4k+ for engine mounting parts before installation. GB issues with Mazda cz they declare it as seal for life. can resolve it via send it outside to change ATF, so can make it last long. most owner don't change the atf due to above and had issue for mileage >100k km

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Dec 14 2021, 09:38 AM

Yeah, funny thing this ATF change need to be done outside and not official SC. If found tempered, warranty can also void..

Invest a battery charger, just a Foxur will do. CX5 is famous on eating battery.

My subordinate changed 2 batteries in 3.5 years of ownership.

I've heard this before the root cause of it is due to the istop?
Foxur = Foxsur?

Not sure, it could also be due to other factors not just i-stop. My subordinate drives about 50km each day to/fro work, 70% highway. I don't think the i-stop was being triggered many times unless it is driven at stop and go traffic. As it's happening so frequent to CX5, just get a charger, charge it once a month, peace of mind.

Ya ya, Foxsur.

Mazda nowadays using a lot of electrical control items even off the istop also similar outcome, the battery you need to purchase is Q-85 spec. battery which is not cheap. It is an open secret that Mazda battery wont last long, the most around 2 years already consider very lucky.

BTW battery & tires is not included in your free maintenance package, so you need to pay for it if warranty limit off. If not mistaken the warranty for the battery is around 1 to 1.5 year or around 20~30k range. After that is yours problem already.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 14 2021, 12:18 PM