it would be bad if they put under sun and make all the rubber harden, the door inner parts, the tyre, and rubber between door hinge, rear boot and engine bonnet.

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This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Dec 10 2021, 11:23 AM

Just because of few bad apples did not mean all CVT gearbox is not reliable. Same as 6AT gearbox, those early days use by BMW like E60/E90 also sucks and fail alot because of the so call lifetime gearbox oil, many owner also did not change the ATF oil within the warranty limit and after that gg a lot of gearbox body valves also.. Does that mean all 6AT gearbox must be bad..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 10 2021, 11:28 AM

Dont worry so much, i drove Xv for over 6 years and another Forester 5 years in my household with no rubber harden, door inner parts fail, or any rear boot or engine bonnet failure also.. The tire manufacturer can provide certain warranty if any crack or material issue found within warranty limit, besides that more & more tire manufacturer also recommend to pick up tires over 1 year of manufacturing date due to better curing. You can ask those professional tire shop which is better, fresh new tires or new tires which is 1~2 years mature.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 10 2021, 11:36 AM

cross is also one of my shortlist, yet to test drive yet.
but cross is in between B n C seg...but seems cross hybrid which is around 140k with all safety features in it. Doubt if it's on par with forester.
gonna try out the cross then only know

If safety, corolla cross cant came close to Forester if you pick up with the eyesight system.
Forester is one of the best safety rated suv in Japan & also US if you look into their safety test report.
The only advantage of corolla cross is fuel efficient should be better due to hybrid.

speaking of hybrid, battery replacement/parts can be an issue after certain of years, >8 years maybe, although toyota has 8 yrs warranty but issues will come after 8 i guess and it's not cheap (assume few k) to upkeep.
for me, more tech stuffs, more things to upkeep, more $ spend.

still haven't a firm decision yet. gonna test cross, cx5 and forester (again) to make conclusion.

Edit: with the MY road condition, alot of pot holes, etc. forester should be no issue handling it, where cx5 will has issue due to resistance not so strong as forester?

This post has been edited by lansi_raju: Dec 10 2021, 11:57 AM

majority of comments here choose forrester, but majority of the car on the road is cx5

haha! CX5 really flooded...

I've been saying it for a few times in other threads. The Hybrid does not make economical sense.
Its the same system from Prius performance wise, 122ps/hp and 140Nm torque. Compare that to the 1.8V regular petrol 139PS 170Nm torque.

You are paying more for less performance. All you gain is better fuel economy. In the highway its going to be similar while it will be great for urban. You need to do your own ROI. For me it doesnt even pay back, not to mention potentially battery replacement.

But, the NEW 1.8V (Petrol) CKD has all the full Toyota Sense bells and whistles. And 130k only. All that driving assist, perhaps only lacking in full time 4WD and really road handling.

I'm willing to bet Forester will surely win in handling, and perhaps in active safety such strength and crash impact maybe. I drove the Cross petrol and handling is not shabby at all if you don't go drifting or high speed cornering those kind of things. Day to day, bumps and humps all performed well.

Its ONLY ONLY lacking in space. As you noted between B and C, to me at the back is really that. Between B and C......it is really a shame to ask 3 adults to sit there for 2 hours and above. Relatively, I will not hesitate to ask the same 3 adults to sit in the CRV for 3hours.

My wife and I are kinda considering...we just really have 2 kids and perhaps it will be fine.....

Another thing, that Forester ID (industrial design) man, really hard to stomach. And I am mechanical engineer who in theory doesn't even mind the ATIVA ID.

Where did they hire this particular designer....did he fall off the truck on the way to ISUZU or lorry design team?

Hybrid, better buy it from used with a warranty still intact, buy from owner who still service it at sc. The price drop too much to take for hybrid model, but good for used car market grabber.

Yup. Most people pick looks more towards overall package.
I got few friends which buy CX5 due to looks and go for the cheapest 2.0 variant.

If the previous SJ forester still quite a number on the road but the current SK Forester is way lesser due higher price point imported from Thailand compare to CX5 local CKD. If look into mechanical technology & safety features at the discounted price point now it is more value.

There are few videos from carlist & YS Khong in youtube explaining about Subaru safety, AWD & SUV car battle.
If you haven driven a real AWD ride & tested the best safety features like eyesight from Subaru, it is worth a life experience.

Well, Subaru main core is safety first. If your in industrial design i believe you might encounter that certain design might impact safety & also related space. It is quite similar to Volvo in the past when they are still prefer safety features first and their design also meh before Geely tookover. Most Subaru or JDM rides prefer boxy style to max the internal space as in Japan their cars does got certain dimension or criteria to meet, but this might be changing as more & more models will start to share with Toyota starting from GT86/BRZ and the next EV SUV Solterra/Bz4X.. Many Subaru hardcore fans also saying that Subaru is losing their design trend after Toyota took over them..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Dec 10 2021, 12:42 PM

I don’t completely buy that ID has to be bad to make a safe car…..every single Volvo nowadays look very nice, so does every Subaru except the forester.

Again as an engineer I can absolutely not see why certain design elements cannot be made in a more aesthetic way in the forester. It’s better to just chalk it up to “certain taste” or “heavy taste” haha.

Bro, is this the GT Edition?

not GT edition.
its eyesight...fyi, GT edition also 30k off..if u wan the SA, i can share u his ctc..PM me if you want

Not everybody has same taste like you. Being Forester big market is in the US, you can see the similarity in the US car design that most American prefer.

Well it depends on how.long you want to keep the car.

The boxer 4 tend to be more expensive to maintain in the long term, as well as more parts for the AWD drivetrain.


For me, the only reason to get the Forrester is the XT turbo, which we don't get here. Otherwise I would lean on the CX5 if you don't need AWD.

one i found suprise was the boxer engine FC is not that great vs inline 4 normal engine.