can i confirm with anyone in the know, eye-sight model is now RM150k (only)?

Well, the other cars you list don't have free service/parts/labour too i suppose and it may be worth say RM10k over 5 years? 2020 car should be no big deal la.

I couldn't convince my wife to take any non Toyota and Honda car. (I know Subaru is affiliated with Toyota). and 150k is still personally 20k too much for me.

I'm going to swallow the smaller size and either go with Corolla cross, Civic or Corolla.

Its a damn shame that Mazda choose to attach their full ADAS not on CX5. Its like Vincent Tan slapping every customer that goes out the door and giving them a shorter life expectancy, and THEN pocketing the extra change.

I've been saying it for a few times in other threads. The Hybrid does not make economical sense.
Its the same system from Prius performance wise, 122ps/hp and 140Nm torque. Compare that to the 1.8V regular petrol 139PS 170Nm torque.

You are paying more for less performance. All you gain is better fuel economy. In the highway its going to be similar while it will be great for urban. You need to do your own ROI. For me it doesnt even pay back, not to mention potentially battery replacement.

But, the NEW 1.8V (Petrol) CKD has all the full Toyota Sense bells and whistles. And 130k only. All that driving assist, perhaps only lacking in full time 4WD and really road handling.

I'm willing to bet Forester will surely win in handling, and perhaps in active safety such strength and crash impact maybe. I drove the Cross petrol and handling is not shabby at all if you don't go drifting or high speed cornering those kind of things. Day to day, bumps and humps all performed well.

Its ONLY ONLY lacking in space. As you noted between B and C, to me at the back is really that. Between B and C......it is really a shame to ask 3 adults to sit there for 2 hours and above. Relatively, I will not hesitate to ask the same 3 adults to sit in the CRV for 3hours.

My wife and I are kinda considering...we just really have 2 kids and perhaps it will be fine.....

Another thing, that Forester ID (industrial design) man, really hard to stomach. And I am mechanical engineer who in theory doesn't even mind the ATIVA ID.

Where did they hire this particular designer....did he fall off the truck on the way to ISUZU or lorry design team?

I don’t completely buy that ID has to be bad to make a safe car…..every single Volvo nowadays look very nice, so does every Subaru except the forester.

Again as an engineer I can absolutely not see why certain design elements cannot be made in a more aesthetic way in the forester. It’s better to just chalk it up to “certain taste” or “heavy taste” haha.

which CX-5 did you buy in the end?

any reason why not the 2.0L CRV? Its the design right? I mean its ok, I also love the shape...Or is it at least due to handling ?

I have tested the CRV but not the CX-5. If I were to based on the comparisons online, I read that CX-5 has even better handling.

Neither do you get it with cx-5 2.0 high spec right?