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post Dec 10 2021, 10:35 AM

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2020 Forester with rebates, did they put it in shade whole year or under sun? Better buy a brand new car, so in this case CX5.

2nd, prefer car without CVT gb for reliability concern and last long. Normal gear much reliable than cvt in general
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post Dec 10 2021, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 10 2021, 10:49 AM)
Well, if taken care CVT also can last long.
We got members going strong with the original CVT gearbox over 200k without issues and Subaru CVT use chain driven compare to others mostly just steel belt.
Mazda gearbox is also not god made, a lot of case now after warranty also gg as Mazda SC did not allow gearbox oil change within 5 years or 100k. If you always abuse it and drive hard be prepare to change the body valve after warranty ends or pandai pandai go outside and get other mechanic to help change the AT oil in between.
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it did not said allow but more to they put it as seal for life atf. but most user change it outside or at SC for ATF and it work great, based on CX5 fb car club member.
The CVT in general is not reliable vs Normal Gear, in the case of Subaru CVT, not sure how it is since u said using a chain plus lesser owner compare to other car brand. But in case of Proton CVT, Honda City, HRV, many had claim a new cvt gb under warranty, which was famous on the fb car club group. Under warranty mean they follow the manufacturer recomended service by SC. Remember last time Audi base spec give CVT also k.o and cost too much to replace it. Now no more CVT in Audi car.

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post Dec 10 2021, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 10 2021, 11:01 AM)
Well, personally seen new car got put cover over it during storage at motor image center, not sure if other center got follow.
Since manufacturer got 5 years warranty, any issue just claim with SC.
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it would be bad if they put under sun and make all the rubber harden, the door inner parts, the tyre, and rubber between door hinge, rear boot and engine bonnet.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 10 2021, 11:01 AM)
Well, personally seen new car got put cover over it during storage at motor image center, not sure if other center got follow.
Since manufacturer got 5 years warranty, any issue just claim with SC.
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post Dec 10 2021, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 10 2021, 12:20 PM)
I've been saying it for a few times in other threads. The Hybrid does not make economical sense.
Its the same system from Prius performance wise, 122ps/hp and 140Nm torque. Compare that to the 1.8V regular petrol 139PS 170Nm torque.

You are paying more for less performance. All you gain is better fuel economy. In the highway its going to be similar while it will be great for urban. You need to do your own ROI. For me it doesnt even pay back, not to mention potentially battery replacement.

But, the NEW 1.8V (Petrol) CKD has all the full Toyota Sense bells and whistles. And 130k only. All that driving assist, perhaps only lacking in full time 4WD and really road handling.

I'm willing to bet Forester will surely win in handling, and perhaps in active safety such strength and crash impact maybe. I drove the Cross petrol and handling is not shabby at all if you don't go drifting or high speed cornering those kind of things. Day to day, bumps and humps all performed well.

Its ONLY ONLY lacking in space. As you noted between B and C, to me at the back is really that. Between B and C......it is really a shame to ask 3 adults to sit there for 2 hours and above. Relatively, I will not hesitate to ask the same 3 adults to sit in the CRV for 3hours.

My wife and I are kinda considering...we just really have 2 kids and perhaps it will be fine.....
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Hybrid, better buy it from used with a warranty still intact, buy from owner who still service it at sc. The price drop too much to take for hybrid model, but good for used car market grabber.
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post Dec 13 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 13 2021, 04:15 PM)
Well it depends on how.long you want to keep the car.

The boxer 4 tend to be more expensive to maintain in the long term, as well as more parts for the AWD drivetrain.
For me, the only reason to get the Forrester is the XT turbo, which we don't get here. Otherwise I would lean on the CX5 if you don't need AWD.
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one i found suprise was the boxer engine FC is not that great vs inline 4 normal engine.
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post Dec 13 2021, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(lansi_raju @ Dec 13 2021, 07:06 PM)
2.0 high spec
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Same with my family car, 2.0 high line
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post Dec 14 2021, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 13 2021, 05:51 PM)
Good luck with the new purchase.
Anyway for long term maintenance Mazda is also a mix bag.
If your ride got problem especially after warranty, their parts is not cheap to replace also.
Within 5 years should be worry free much.
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It just a typical Japanese car. Parts are average price or similar to any other Japanese car parts price. Brakepad, absorber, spark plug, driveshaft. For brakepad, the most expensive at sc is for honda car, rm700/pair. But low quality when it will get brake juddering issue.
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post Dec 14 2021, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 14 2021, 09:09 AM)
Well, not accounted with the gearbox & also oil pump low pressure issue if unlucky (VVT issue usually follow with this), engine mounting also usually need to change after 100k. All these are not cheap tho to replace or fix after warranty ends, price is not average bro if went with original Mazda parts. Nowadays Mazda already consider as premium and near to continental part price already as they already push up their standards unless you go for China or other OEM parts.
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engine mounting for Honda also not cheap. Rm2.4k+ for engine mounting parts before installation. GB issues with Mazda cz they declare it as seal for life. can resolve it via send it outside to change ATF, so can make it last long. most owner don't change the atf due to above and had issue for mileage >100k km

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post Dec 14 2021, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 14 2021, 12:07 PM)
Mazda nowadays using a lot of electrical control items even off the istop also similar outcome, the battery you need to purchase is Q-85 spec. battery which is not cheap. It is an open secret that Mazda battery wont last long, the most around 2 years already consider very lucky.

BTW battery & tires is not included in your free maintenance package, so you need to pay for it if warranty limit off. If not mistaken the warranty for the battery is around 1 to 1.5 year or around 20~30k range. After that is yours problem already.
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Varta rm475. Never saw any manufacturer give a free maintenance package including tire.
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post Dec 14 2021, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 14 2021, 01:44 PM)
If not mistaken there is a car brand which people can claim or help kautim new tyres within 2 years using so call wheel & tyre protection plan.
I dont want to name it, but many owners manage to get free tire set if they knew the person in charge.  brows.gif
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That one is bmw cz many issues with RFT Goodyear. But also got owner unable to claim it under warranty. Tyre crack within 3-6 month. Rest manufacturers claimed it as wear and tear.

 

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