Chat if your salary lower than i.t ppl. fail in life?
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 Nov 24 2021, 02:09 PM, updated 5y ago
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i.t ppl in Malaysia income i believe around rm 8-15k a month.
if senior position. i believe more than that. live happy because job bersepah. world now need i.t ppl but if your income lower than that. do you feel fail in life? This post has been edited by ikankering: Nov 24 2021, 02:11 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:14 PM
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spm worker can go 14th floor?
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Nov 24 2021, 02:14 PM
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8-15K is consider B40 income. Should be >RM100K per month to be considered as borderline achiever
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Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Nov 24 2021, 02:14 PM) 8-15K is consider B40 income. Should be >RM100K per month to be considered as borderline achiever go work drive Lamborghini. |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:09 PM) i.t ppl in Malaysia income i believe around rm 8-15k a month. can you show me the job listing for IT job around 8-15k a month. i go apply now.if senior position. i believe more than that. live happy because job bersepah. world now need i.t ppl but if your income lower than that. do you feel fail in life? or you just trolling and pulling number out of your ass? |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM
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yup, last time fresh started, every night crying dont even know why i even in kl for < 8k.
spent next 4 years rage flipping job till 8k. now rage flipping till 15 This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Nov 24 2021, 02:17 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM) can you show me the job listing for IT job around 8-15k a month. i go apply now. where to check job listing?or you just trolling and pulling number out of your ass? |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM) yup, last time fresh started, every night crying dont even know why i even in kl for < 8k. what a wonderful life. high income.spent next 4 years rage flipping job till 8k. now rage flipping till 15 |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:18 PM
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here comes the sohai again.. Username is username liked this post
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Nov 24 2021, 02:20 PM
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Lol what am I doing with my life. Dulu uitm offer computer course... I reject because computers are for nerds with no life... Now I'm a poorfag engineer with no life.
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Nov 24 2021, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Nov 24 2021, 02:20 PM) Lol what am I doing with my life. Dulu uitm offer computer course... I reject because computers are for nerds with no life... Now I'm a poorfag engineer with no life. we all learn from mistake |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:22 PM
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ayam 2.5k nett celery... still ok jer.. can own a used car < cash buy......rent flat.... cukur on my achievement darkhunter16 and lordgamer3 liked this post
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Nov 24 2021, 02:24 PM
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Only idiots comparing salary oe_kintaro and MummySLB liked this post
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Nov 24 2021, 02:24 PM
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what??
i'm in IT only 3k/mth.... |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:26 PM
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computer job very boring
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Nov 24 2021, 02:27 PM
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i rage flip from mcd and then now i flip NFT (considered IT kan) for 100k amonth. so how a?
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Nov 24 2021, 02:27 PM
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It job have life?
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Nov 24 2021, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 03:21 PM) we all learn from mistake It's too late for me... But I'll tell my future 11 football team kids to take computer course whilst being a deadbeat dad |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:28 PM
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If you are happy with your life you are successful in my eyes.
Right now I unhappy not because of my peasant salary. |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:29 PM
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Rm8-15k consider mid to senior level. IT (if we talking about programming) do have higher average but not that crazy high. If managerial or principle/architect then can be more than 15-20k or more depends on company
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Nov 24 2021, 02:29 PM
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8-15k, programmer kot.. i.t still b40 salary only..
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Nov 24 2021, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Fluffeh @ Nov 24 2021, 02:27 PM) It job have life? yes. Saturday Sunday off. |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM) can you show me the job listing for IT job around 8-15k a month. i go apply now. kek , confirm pull from his assor you just trolling and pulling number out of your ass? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Nov 24 2021, 02:29 PM) 8-15k, programmer kot.. i.t still b40 salary only.. i tot same job. |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Nov 24 2021, 02:29 PM) 8-15k, programmer kot.. i.t still b40 salary only.. definitely programmer or maybe sales engineer? support or operation impossible unless manager |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:33 PM
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in sarawak the IT head that has to do A-Z (software, programming, hardware, networking and maintenance of all company computers) gets 6k lul
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Nov 24 2021, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Nov 24 2021, 02:33 PM) in sarawak the IT head that has to do A-Z (software, programming, hardware, networking and maintenance of all company computers) gets 6k lul that's like small kedekut china man company la... programmer shouldn't do IT (infra/laptop stuff) unless we talking about devops which is another beast itself. in the right company devops can earn you legit 8-15k depends on your expertise |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Nov 24 2021, 02:33 PM) in sarawak the IT head that has to do A-Z (software, programming, hardware, networking and maintenance of all company computers) gets 6k lul 6k in sarawak = rm 20k in klang valley |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:36 PM
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IT job , RM8k-15k in malaysia ? LOLOLOLOL , this TS always smoke weed and make COLD story
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Nov 24 2021, 02:37 PM
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IT. 5k
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Nov 24 2021, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Nov 24 2021, 02:33 PM) in sarawak the IT head that has to do A-Z (software, programming, hardware, networking and maintenance of all company computers) gets 6k lul Programming what lvl first , if u say software engineer Programming , RM6k is low , but normal programming + everything u mention , for senior lvl should be around there |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:45 PM
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you guys dont know whos ikankering? 1m income factory owner. trolling uoll only.
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Nov 24 2021, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Nov 24 2021, 02:40 PM) Programming what lvl first , if u say software engineer Programming , RM6k is low , but normal programming + everything u mention , for senior lvl should be around there SQL, ERP and Pivot/accounting system and maintain daily network/hardware..Actually i think they are paying less than 6k |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Nov 24 2021, 02:47 PM) SQL, ERP and Pivot/accounting system and maintain daily network/hardware..Actually i think they are paying less than 6k around there, my friend does what u mention, and he work in SIME Darby, get around Rm6.5k |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:49 PM
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Yes, celery only 5k, feel veli sad.
Thinking of joining IT as well. Hope can get into average IT celery soon. |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:50 PM
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topkek la ikankering.
8-15k is senior lvl la dei. just focus on ur factory la. no need it here it there. |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM) can you show me the job listing for IT job around 8-15k a month. i go apply now. or you just trolling and pulling number out of your ass? QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Nov 24 2021, 02:29 PM) 8-15k, programmer kot.. i.t still b40 salary only.. QUOTE(xHj09 @ Nov 24 2021, 02:31 PM) kek , confirm pull from his ass » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(joevo2 @ Nov 24 2021, 02:34 PM) that's like small kedekut china man company la... programmer shouldn't do IT (infra/laptop stuff) unless we talking about devops which is another beast itself. in the right company devops can earn you legit 8-15k depends on your expertise QUOTE(TianJian @ Nov 24 2021, 02:36 PM) IT job , RM8k-15k in malaysia ? LOLOLOLOL , this TS always smoke weed and make COLD story QUOTE(TianJian @ Nov 24 2021, 02:40 PM) Programming what lvl first , if u say software engineer Programming , RM6k is low , but normal programming + everything u mention , for senior lvl should be around there https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5217303&hl=Report from PIKOM, dun shoot the messenger |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:52 PM
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Nov 24 2021, 02:53 PM
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Nov 24 2021, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Nov 24 2021, 02:49 PM) around there, my friend does what u mention, and he work in SIME Darby, get around Rm6.5k actually i saw the ad again. this time they put 2.5-3.5K  This post has been edited by anndroid: Nov 24 2021, 02:54 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:09 PM) i.t ppl in Malaysia income i believe around rm 8-15k a month. No la. Actually rm8k - 15k is range for senior devs. Even MNC also offer similar salary for local branch.if senior position. i believe more than that. live happy because job bersepah. world now need i.t ppl but if your income lower than that. do you feel fail in life? |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:56 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ahahha , I don't trust a word from him , IT job , among all industrial, O&G or Government sector can hit that salary range |
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Nov 24 2021, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Nov 24 2021, 02:53 PM) actually i saw the ad again. this time they put 2.5-3.5K that 1 is normal salary range for junior , even now also this salary range for junior |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 24 2021, 02:50 PM) topkek la ikankering. ok ok. i believe u.8-15k is senior lvl la dei. just focus on ur factory la. no need it here it there. |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Nov 24 2021, 02:20 PM) Lol what am I doing with my life. Dulu uitm offer computer course... I reject because computers are for nerds with no life... Now I'm a poorfag engineer with no life. Cukur I just go with it |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Nov 24 2021, 02:53 PM) No la. Actually rm8k - 15k is range for senior devs. Even MNC also offer similar salary for local branch. dem so i underpaid by MNC as senior dev. brb, go flip table in front my boss. |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Nov 24 2021, 03:20 PM) Lol what am I doing with my life. Dulu uitm offer computer course... I reject because computers are for nerds with no life... Now I'm a poorfag engineer with no life. Dont bs la...unker neber engineer repair helikopter almost rm10k every month...itu pun mau resign balik kerteh got offer 20-30k...her mom dah tua kuat sembang inform unker one   |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Nov 24 2021, 04:12 PM) dem so i underpaid by MNC as senior dev. tunggu vss dapat compenstaion 1-2 years baru cabut company lain larbrb, go flip table in front my boss. |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:22 PM
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last time I.T salary very low, now very high, next time what job high salary? lordgamer3 liked this post
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Nov 24 2021, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 24 2021, 03:20 PM) tunggu vss dapat compenstaion 1-2 years baru cabut company lain lar since they underpaid my, i don't think they will fire me anytime soon. haih....last two round already many senior (many years of service those) kena vss.... |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 24 2021, 03:22 PM) last time I.T salary very low, now very high, next time what job high salary? Politician |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Nov 24 2021, 04:23 PM) since they underpaid my, i don't think they will fire me anytime soon. haih.... Unker wife close friend frw months back kena vss.. she work thr quite long. Got compensated 1year++ worth of monthly salary...last two round already many senior (many years of service those) kena vss.... After barely 1 month trus get other job offer. Untung wat |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 24 2021, 03:28 PM) Unker wife close friend frw months back kena vss.. she work thr quite long. Got compensated 1year++ worth of monthly salary... Correct, they vss those high compa ratio people first, usually those stayed very long, every year steady increment and no plan to move higher position.After barely 1 month trus get other job offer. Untung wat I think I katak will be faster at this rate.. sigh... |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:09 PM) i.t ppl in Malaysia income i believe around rm 8-15k a month. I IT guy but salary below 6k how?if senior position. i believe more than that. live happy because job bersepah. world now need i.t ppl but if your income lower than that. do you feel fail in life? Worst than ikankering? |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:35 PM
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Saw this post for coingecko some time back when they were hiring
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Nov 24 2021, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:18 PM) what a wonderful life. high income. tauke buat bantal kan? boleh buat bantal saiz custom? printing dakimakura bole? |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 24 2021, 03:35 PM) Saw this post for coingecko some time back when they were hiring they follow international punya market levelthat high bracket C-level punya almost equal to MNC/GLC Group CEO punya salary local market level lower than that |
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Nov 24 2021, 03:58 PM
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ts factory owner can go 14th floor
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Nov 24 2021, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Nov 24 2021, 02:36 PM) IT job , RM8k-15k in malaysia ? LOLOLOLOL , this TS always smoke weed and make COLD story Ok kot.. ayam is dba/data analytics and Java+ASP.net+Angular + nodejs + react/graphql Software engineer (modern noobs will call it fullstack but me is old school so dont consider myself fullstack), got offered RM13k for some data science role... with 4 years experience when offered. But of course AUS/SG offer much higher when converted so im in SG because income tax lower. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Nov 24 2021, 04:01 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 24 2021, 03:58 PM) Ok kot.. ayam is dba/data analytics and Java+ASP.net+Angular + nodejs + react/graphql Software engineer (modern noobs will call it fullstack but me is old school so dont consider myself fullstack), got offered RM13k for some data science role... with 4 years experience when offered. around lo , DBA those position always high pay 1, 7 years back was like RM8k , now should be more , but I work as MIS manager in Singapore is low , the people work under me high pay , XD ! i just goyang kaki , do approval/interviewBut of course AUS/SG offer much higher when converted so im in SG because income tax lower. This post has been edited by TianJian: Nov 24 2021, 04:13 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 04:13 PM
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ayam drive iswara amoi see ayam see invisible =(
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Nov 24 2021, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Nov 24 2021, 04:23 PM) since they underpaid my, i don't think they will fire me anytime soon. haih.... vss? last two round already many senior (many years of service those) kena vss.... wat industry? |
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Nov 24 2021, 04:27 PM
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Feeling fail 30k celery here
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Nov 24 2021, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 24 2021, 03:35 PM) Saw this post for coingecko some time back when they were hiring I think this is still lower than crypto market. But If I am not mistaken coingecko is not building their own crypto tech or coin. Coingecko is just like a SEO for crypto and they get money when new coins wana be listed in their website. Pretty genius, proud that there are like Coinmarketcap version.Meanwhile those crypto programmer that can code new coin or do blockchain stuff can easily get paid 10-20k USD / month. OR create new coin, do rug pull or honeypot easily become multi-millionaire lol |
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Nov 24 2021, 04:45 PM
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8K-10K depend on location...if KL yes, but if given some ulu place like penang...sure wont reach 8K also....
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Nov 24 2021, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Nov 24 2021, 04:11 PM) around lo , DBA those position always high pay 1, 7 years back was like RM8k , now should be more , but I work as MIS manager in Singapore is low , the people work under me high pay , XD ! i just goyang kaki , do approval/interview Yea.. but dba role punya days are counting especially with micro services event sourcing and cloud.Deswai i quit dba and become solutions architect.. much more career progression. sadly cant goyang kaki, everyday meeting and presentation. |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 24 2021, 04:39 PM) I think this is still lower than crypto market. But If I am not mistaken coingecko is not building their own crypto tech or coin. Coingecko is just like a SEO for crypto and they get money when new coins wana be listed in their website. Pretty genius, proud that there are like Coinmarketcap version. Used to have alot of lucrative blockchain dev role using blockchain tech to create a p2p mainframe as transact database for highly secure and high data integrity system solutions... but end up 10/10 that i know end up create crypto currency instead of the initial goal Meanwhile those crypto programmer that can code new coin or do blockchain stuff can easily get paid 10-20k USD / month. OR create new coin, do rug pull or honeypot easily become multi-millionaire lol  then all become pump and dump companies |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Nov 24 2021, 05:13 PM) ayam drive iswara amoi see ayam see invisible =( Sound tu amoi. Unker got 150k kl studio. Ko ada? |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 24 2021, 05:07 PM) Yea.. but dba role punya days are counting especially with micro services event sourcing and cloud. wondering what is the pay range for solution architect in sg?Deswai i quit dba and become solutions architect.. much more career progression. sadly cant goyang kaki, everyday meeting and presentation. so you just focus on solutioning only or also involve in the delivery? |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:22 PM
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contract doctors gaji 4.2k saja works average 12hours per day 6 days a week in certain depts.
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Nov 24 2021, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Nov 24 2021, 02:16 PM) can you show me the job listing for IT job around 8-15k a month. i go apply now. Most IT before 30yo already 8kor you just trolling and pulling number out of your ass? You must be 25yo. Be patient. In few years time you will hit 8k |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 24 2021, 04:39 PM) I think this is still lower than crypto market. But If I am not mistaken coingecko is not building their own crypto tech or coin. Coingecko is just like a SEO for crypto and they get money when new coins wana be listed in their website. Pretty genius, proud that there are like Coinmarketcap version. Coingecko is not really SEO, more like a data feed company. Their main revenue is likely from their API.Meanwhile those crypto programmer that can code new coin or do blockchain stuff can easily get paid 10-20k USD / month. OR create new coin, do rug pull or honeypot easily become multi-millionaire lol |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:28 PM
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Yup the world is heading towards IT. Everyone is studying IT nowadays and they are overloading the IT job market.
IT life have long working hours, Saturday and Sunday no freedom, still need to work to. Depends on the company job position level. If management level work office hours, Sat and Sun off day. Most of the IT jobs I have seen are shift works. |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:30 PM
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RM6k a month from driving busses already cukup makan. Why need so much money?
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Nov 24 2021, 05:32 PM
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#75
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QUOTE(orangtua @ Nov 24 2021, 02:14 PM) spm worker can go 14th floor? Can go cari ikankering |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Nov 24 2021, 02:33 PM) in sarawak the IT head that has to do A-Z (software, programming, hardware, networking and maintenance of all company computers) gets 6k lul Sarawak is different from KL la....You go to Sarawak then you see why they earn RM6k, look at their lifestyle pace. |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 24 2021, 05:22 PM) contract doctors gaji 4.2k saja works average 12hours per day 6 days a week in certain depts. audit gaji <3k, average also >10 hours per day, 6 days per week |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:38 PM
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never know I fail in life.
brb go to 14th floor |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 05:19 PM) wondering what is the pay range for solution architect in sg? It's everything. Including delivering the long term support procedures. Basically starting from getting requirements from BA... everything onwards is the SA's role from start to end until the termination of the IT solution. so you just focus on solutioning only or also involve in the delivery? Which includes from proposal to procure hardware/cloud Infrastructure and frameworks... to system architecture/module design and even hiring / finding outsource dev, performing code review various QA stuff to lastly also hiring helpdesk haha.... deswai alot of meeting and have to listen to alot of sales pitch  and worse is stalking on vendor's progress. afaik.. the pay ranges from 7k sgd all the way to 20+k sgd. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Nov 24 2021, 05:40 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:09 PM) i.t ppl in Malaysia income i believe around rm 8-15k a month. Finance and Legal can earn as much . The one which most kesian is semicon and telco engineer sohai. Tht one god alsokenot save frpm overwork n gaji ciputif senior position. i believe more than that. live happy because job bersepah. world now need i.t ppl but if your income lower than that. do you feel fail in life? |
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Nov 24 2021, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 24 2021, 05:38 PM) It's everything. Including delivering the long term support procedures. Basically starting from getting requirements from BA... everything onwards is the SA's role from start to end until the termination of the IT solution. I see. so your company mainly outsource the project ?No internal dev team to run the show?Which includes from proposal to procure hardware/cloud Infrastructure and frameworks... to system architecture/module design and even hiring / finding outsource dev, performing code review various QA stuff to lastly also hiring helpdesk haha.... deswai alot of meeting and have to listen to alot of sales pitch and worse is stalking on vendor's progress. afaik.. the pay ranges from 7k sgd all the way to 20+k sgd. wow . your role like company director. every single layer need your presence . Company offer your share issit haha. I thought the starting salary for SA should be around 10K at least. I have a friend in a medical company Sharepoint developer role getting 9k le. Met few architect from a SI company from sg 5 year back.That time they already getting around 7k le. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Nov 24 2021, 05:25 PM) Most IT before 30yo already 8k agree.You must be 25yo. Be patient. In few years time you will hit 8k need sabar a lot. novblaze liked this post
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Nov 24 2021, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Nov 24 2021, 02:20 PM) Lol what am I doing with my life. Dulu uitm offer computer course... I reject because computers are for nerds with no life... Now I'm a poorfag engineer with no life. Never too late bro, I jump to IT from engineering too.Started with 0.Now ok already can make decent living.. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 05:52 PM) I see. so your company mainly outsource the project ?No internal dev team to run the show? No lor... working in Conglomerate corp so have many different businesses under the main umbrella.. im under asia pacific region HQ... so there's many diff systems and it's never ending. Of course got few other SA as well. BA alone got 20+ people so you can imagine haha (SA of course fewer)wow . your role like company director. every single layer need your presence . Company offer your share issit haha. I thought the starting salary for SA should be around 10K at least. I have a friend in a medical company Sharepoint developer role getting 9k le. Met few architect from a SI company from sg 5 year back.That time they already getting around 7k le. Yes no internal dev.. actually only around 10 mainly to judge the outsource, do consulting and occasionally doing adhoc support and troubleshooting before escalating to vendor to fix... in short super senior developers haha. Depending on project size and quantity lor... handling small and few project then small pay, big projects and many then high pay... especially mission critical ones. Note it's SGD ya.... sharepoint can get 9k SGD meh? This post has been edited by Bonchi: Nov 24 2021, 06:10 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Nov 24 2021, 05:28 PM) Yup the world is heading towards IT. Everyone is studying IT nowadays and they are overloading the IT job market. While this is true but it is not physical demanding work like some engineering work(at site/lab).Mostly can done online and remotely..IT life have long working hours, Saturday and Sunday no freedom, still need to work to. Depends on the company job position level. If management level work office hours, Sat and Sun off day. Most of the IT jobs I have seen are shift works. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(hZa23 @ Nov 24 2021, 06:07 PM) Never too late bro, I jump to IT from engineering too.Started with 0.Now ok already can make decent living.. what is so hard with IT?I think any SPM holder with a decent understanding in Math can do well in IT. Degree is slightly better ticket to land the job only. I have seen someone without a degree working in IT. TBH , having a degree in IT is an overkill .Those thing you learn from school , 99 % not applicable to your job one. Suggest TS to fast fast change your pillow company to IT company. cause SPM holder also can do the job. Plus It is the trending now .Sure can make ton of profit than selling bantal . This post has been edited by teckyuan: Nov 24 2021, 06:22 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:30 PM) yes. Saturday Sunday off. buto kau that just in contract ,you think ItT people dont work alternate weekend and 24/7 ? |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Nov 24 2021, 02:20 PM) Lol what am I doing with my life. Dulu uitm offer computer course... I reject because computers are for nerds with no life... Now I'm a poorfag engineer with no life. I second upper mechanical engineer now kuli construction.Work under sun and rain almost kena 10 wheel lorry langgar die and almost kena piling machine jatuh and pancake for low gaji This post has been edited by novblaze: Nov 24 2021, 06:14 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 06:12 PM) what is so hard with IT? DEGREE in IT overkill but in cooperate level especially project type need degreeI think any SPM holder with a decent understanding in Math can do well in IT. Degree is slightly better ticket to land the job only. I have seen someone without a degree working in IT. TBH , having a degree in IT is an overkill .Those thing you learn from school , 99 % not applicable to your job one. IT doesnt mean programming only |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:17 PM
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apa you kisah? hire more spm worker will do.
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Nov 24 2021, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 24 2021, 05:22 PM) contract doctors gaji 4.2k saja works average 12hours per day 6 days a week in certain depts. biar betul. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 06:12 PM) what is so hard with IT? You just need the will to learn and right logics…I think any SPM holder with a decent understanding in Math can do well in IT. Degree is slightly better ticket to land the job only. I have seen someone without a degree working in IT. TBH , having a degree in IT is an overkill .Those thing you learn from school , 99 % not applicable to your job one. Suggest TS to fast fast change your pillow company to IT company. cause SPM holder also can do the job. Plus It is the trending now .Sure can make ton of profit than selling bantal . |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ Nov 24 2021, 06:14 PM) DEGREE in IT overkill but in cooperate level especially project type need degree managerial level in IT mostly got no IT background. lel...IT doesnt mean programming only your hardly see some manager helping you to write SQL script . i was lucky i met one .haha. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 06:12 PM) what is so hard with IT? interesting...I think any SPM holder with a decent understanding in Math can do well in IT. Degree is slightly better ticket to land the job only. I have seen someone without a degree working in IT. TBH , having a degree in IT is an overkill .Those thing you learn from school , 99 % not applicable to your job one. Suggest TS to fast fast change your pillow company to IT company. cause SPM holder also can do the job. Plus It is the trending now .Sure can make ton of profit than selling bantal . |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:32 PM
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Ts sembang kencang
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Nov 24 2021, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(hZa23 @ Nov 24 2021, 06:28 PM) You just need the will to learn and right logics… one of the thing i hate to see in developer is they dont even bother to study the tools they use before they start the thing.end up creating technical debt. fk those developer. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 06:31 PM) interesting... time to divest your portfolio. kekenow u can make 2mil in one month le. if TS is bumi , can go bid gov project. Gov project margin lagi tinggi yoh. you're welcome! This post has been edited by teckyuan: Nov 24 2021, 06:35 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:39 PM
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What kind of IT we're talking about?
You've old tech hw/sw L1/L2 support to the likes of new tech intelligent automation/IOT kind of thing. Then what's your role. I do know some L1/L2 support personal still being paid 3k after years of working and I've know PM and solution architect who's taking home more than 30k. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 06:31 PM) managerial level in IT mostly got no IT background. lel... true also but they involve in MIS alsoyour hardly see some manager helping you to write SQL script . i was lucky i met one .haha. |
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Nov 24 2021, 06:58 PM
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tumpang thread, anyone looking for devops pre-sales role with MNC, my team is hiring. more info here or just PM me:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=119&t=5215297 |
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Nov 24 2021, 07:04 PM
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if your salary of any job lower than politician salary, mmg la fail in life
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Nov 24 2021, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Nov 24 2021, 07:04 PM) if your salary of any job lower than politician salary, mmg la fail in life reason ppl want become politicians. |
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Nov 24 2021, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:09 PM) i.t ppl in Malaysia income i believe around rm 8-15k a month. Are you indirectly saying you're "leaps and beyond more successful" than the average joe since you claim you own a factory while paying your workers peanuts while benchmarking yourself against the average salary range in the IT industry?if senior position. i believe more than that. live happy because job bersepah. world now need i.t ppl but if your income lower than that. do you feel fail in life? |
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Nov 24 2021, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:17 PM) where to check job listing? Tinder. |
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Nov 24 2021, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(teutonic @ Nov 24 2021, 07:58 PM) Tinder. i search now |
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Nov 24 2021, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(hZa23 @ Nov 24 2021, 07:07 PM) Never too late bro, I jump to IT from engineering too.Started with 0.Now ok already can make decent living.. How old were you? |
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Nov 24 2021, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Nov 24 2021, 05:30 PM) RM6k a month from driving busses already cukup makan. Why need so much money? my life hasn't reached the height like you to say "why need so much money?"I only can say "The more the merrier." for now. I believe many in their 30s still are struggling with debts, commitment and expectation. I am no exception. i only realized life is hard when i step into the society.  Poor's problem. but i do hope one day i can confidently say "why need so much money"  |
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Nov 24 2021, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 24 2021, 06:08 PM) No lor... working in Conglomerate corp so have many different businesses under the main umbrella.. im under asia pacific region HQ... so there's many diff systems and it's never ending. Of course got few other SA as well. BA alone got 20+ people so you can imagine haha (SA of course fewer) yes. all the figure in SGD. I think Sharepoint is a very niche product and lot of big company and gov agency using it .TBH , it is very rare to find a Sharepoint developer these days.Yes no internal dev.. actually only around 10 mainly to judge the outsource, do consulting and occasionally doing adhoc support and troubleshooting before escalating to vendor to fix... in short super senior developers haha. Depending on project size and quantity lor... handling small and few project then small pay, big projects and many then high pay... especially mission critical ones. Note it's SGD ya.... sharepoint can get 9k SGD meh? I find your company structure little bit weird. why you need to design and ask outsource to vendor to build it instead of asking vendor to purpose design and deliver. Working with offshore team is a test of patience especially those from india. |
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Nov 24 2021, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(hZa23 @ Nov 24 2021, 06:07 PM) Never too late bro, I jump to IT from engineering too.Started with 0.Now ok already can make decent living.. I dont even have IT cert haha, engineer also... started with being an intern doing online banking system and then become contract dev while finishing off the final fyp which instead of engineering stuff, i go do algorithm simulation... then grad and IT all the way.I got a friend's brother even more troll. Was an MO then do postgrad neurosurgery in NUH (scholarship), but decide to do tech startup self learn and code some AI stuff, got twitter's attention and now very helang working there become some AI team lead. |
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Nov 24 2021, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 09:41 PM) yes. all the figure in SGD. I think Sharepoint is a very niche product and lot of big company and gov agency using it .TBH , it is very rare to find a Sharepoint developer these days. Sharepoint salary on average i think 5k? Your friend probably very lucky then. Cuz it's not that technical... alot of yindia capable already available as we outsourced our sharepoint project one off for very cheap and now maintained by a system admin. I find your company structure little bit weird. why you need to design and ask outsource to vendor to build it instead of asking vendor to purpose design and deliver. Working with offshore team is a test of patience especially those from india. Well it's not a small company it's pretty big.we have many business entities in the region and separate requirements so cant expect 1 vendor to do all. the current outsourced dev all combined headcount is a 1000+... That's why we have inhouse BA, SA, and very senior software engineers to act as the control tower for all the systems in the region especially when all of the systems have to interface with accounting and analytics in the end. The scale is too big already. So yeah treat it as the system is our in house product and we have the full ownership, the vendor is basically a just a manpower provider. Also alot of trade secret in the workflow such as on the assembly line management methods and supply chain management... so when we get diff vendors to develop diff modules and then only piece the whole system together then the "secret" wont be leaked to outside  This post has been edited by Bonchi: Nov 24 2021, 10:36 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 24 2021, 10:22 PM) Sharepoint salary on average i think 5k? Your friend probably very lucky then. Cuz it's not that technical... alot of yindia capable already available as we outsourced our sharepoint project one off for very cheap and now maintained by a system admin. he is a sharepoint developer and also a SP admin. i think this is why he gets this figure.Well it's not a small company it's pretty big.we have many business entities in the region and separate requirements so cant expect 1 vendor to do all. the current outsourced dev all combined headcount is a 1000+... That's why we have inhouse BA, SA, and very senior software engineers to act as the control tower for all the systems in the region especially when all of the systems have to interface with accounting and analytics in the end. The scale is too big already. So yeah treat it as the system is our in house product and we have the full ownership, the vendor is basically a just a manpower provider. Also alot of trade secret in the workflow such as on the assembly line management methods and supply chain management... so when we get diff vendors to develop diff modules and then only piece the whole system together then the "secret" wont be leaked to outside wow .1000+ headcount is very huge team.You company might as well setup their own dev team le. The biggest team i ever worked on is like 100++ on functional team. I've been working in the development track for almost 5 year .Recently got assigned to do internal assessment on Service request. Spending more time writing assessment than code .Start to feel littlie bit sienz. |
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Nov 24 2021, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 10:59 PM) he is a sharepoint developer and also a SP admin. i think this is why he gets this figure. Probably just lucky and probably cant get the same figure when quit... cuz got a contact in equinix who is a senior SP also 7K nia. wow .1000+ headcount is very huge team.You company might as well setup their own dev team le. The biggest team i ever worked on is like 100++ on functional team. I've been working in the development track for almost 5 year .Recently got assigned to do internal assessment on Service request. Spending more time writing assessment than code .Start to feel littlie bit sienz. Bruh.. dev team in SG is 3k min a month per head. Outsourced dev team is 1/3 of that manpower cost. Then when no active big project and only need like 300 dev... then the remaining 700+ how? Cant just simply fire them lol. Also the company is not a tech company, no purpose of keeping so many dev inhouse. Just a few super experienced software engineer is enough to lead the outsource dev. Sommore most of the outsource we chose is to china.... with many graduated or interns from tsing hua and xi'an, tiptop quality for a fraction of the price. Local SG and Malaysia kalah teruk This post has been edited by Bonchi: Nov 24 2021, 11:18 PM |
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Nov 24 2021, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 24 2021, 11:04 PM) Probably just lucky and probably cant get the same figure when quit... cuz got a contact in equinix who is a senior SP also 7K nia. haha.true also la.hope your company pay you well for managing such a huge team and helping company cut cost.Bruh.. dev team in SG is 3k min a month per head. Outsourced dev team is 1/3 of that manpower cost. Then when no active big project and only need like 300 dev... then the remaining 700+ how? Cant just simply fire them lol. Also the company is not a tech company, no purpose of keeping so many dev inhouse. Just a few super experienced software engineer is enough to lead the outsource dev. |
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Nov 24 2021, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Nov 24 2021, 11:16 PM) haha.true also la.hope your company pay you well for managing such a huge team and helping company cut cost. No la, im not the only SA... got about 6 of us and im the most junior haha. (I got 6 working years experience jer)And we not leading the dev team. We give directions and expect to see and judge their functional deliverables. The one leading the dev is the software engineers. But of course SA have to obviously be very code proficient... because need to do code review or in some cases, the outsource fcked up then we have to get our hands dirty with fixing their code along with the software engineers. Note.. SA is not PM.. we dont really manage but we create plans and expect budget for the PM to approve and then the PM will be the one managing. Literally like a building's architect. Comfortable la and quite happy cuz memang a challenging long term jobscope that is enjoyable if got the mind capacity... have to constantly seek out new knowledge/product in the market, learn them, test them, grade them haha. But the sien part is alot of documentation especially on proposal. Need to specify cost and risk. And do alot of meeting with stake holders and 3rd parties. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Nov 24 2021, 11:40 PM |
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Nov 25 2021, 12:57 AM
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So salary below FB owner = fail in life?
Ok. |
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Nov 25 2021, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Nov 24 2021, 09:18 PM) How old were you? 28 that time |
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Nov 25 2021, 03:26 AM
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My salary is lower than 1,000 ringgit but I have 1,000 bitcoins.
problem is i forgot my wallet password! |
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Nov 25 2021, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE(Fluffeh @ Nov 24 2021, 02:27 PM) It job have life? QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 24 2021, 02:30 PM) yes. Saturday Sunday off. Off...hahhahahahahhahaha.....sorry....hahahhahahhahahahaOnly sohai think it job can easily off sat and Sunday hahhahahahahaba. System maintenance and system upgrade all on sat and sun and public holiday. TS ur imagination very setronk.. |
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Nov 25 2021, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(c00lbeans @ Nov 24 2021, 06:58 PM) tumpang thread, anyone looking for devops pre-sales role with MNC, my team is hiring. more info here or just PM me: IBM hiring..https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=119&t=5215297 Seem the JD more to container/devops presales More on Software or Cloud/System. Need full knwoledge on IBM PowerVS/CloudPack? Or general K8s is sufficient? |
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Nov 25 2021, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 25 2021, 04:12 AM) Off...hahhahahahahhahaha.....sorry....hahahhahahhahahaha Dont lieOnly sohai think it job can easily off sat and Sunday hahhahahahahaba. System maintenance and system upgrade all on sat and sun and public holiday. TS ur imagination very setronk.. Me of saturdat/Sunday WFH somemore Can jalan2 lagi |
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Nov 25 2021, 04:19 AM
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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Nov 25 2021, 04:18 AM) Dont lie Yeah yeah. U sukak lor.Me of saturdat/Sunday WFH somemore Can jalan2 lagi |
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Nov 25 2021, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Nov 25 2021, 04:18 AM) Dont lie lucky u.Me of saturdat/Sunday WFH somemore Can jalan2 lagi |
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Nov 25 2021, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(craxors @ Nov 24 2021, 02:24 PM) what?? u are in the wrong IT department then.i'm in IT only 3k/mth.... The actual IT field that is making tons of money are those with JAVA/PHP programmer, web security/ IT analyst and those in banking lines. not those ones who repair PC, re-format PC or installing software. |
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Nov 25 2021, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(KHunterz @ Nov 25 2021, 10:32 AM) u are in the wrong IT department then. how much income a month ?The actual IT field that is making tons of money are those with JAVA/PHP programmer, web security/ IT analyst and those in banking lines. not those ones who repair PC, re-format PC or installing software. |
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Nov 25 2021, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(KHunterz @ Nov 25 2021, 10:32 AM) u are in the wrong IT department then. dem... no wonder la...The actual IT field that is making tons of money are those with JAVA/PHP programmer, web security/ IT analyst and those in banking lines. not those ones who repair PC, re-format PC or installing software. my job scope only reply whatsapp whole day.... |
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Nov 25 2021, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 25 2021, 10:35 AM) how much income a month ? definitely lower than you, bos.  |
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Nov 25 2021, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(KHunterz @ Nov 25 2021, 11:00 AM) definitely lower than you, bos. i work hard to make sure my income better than pilot. KHunterz liked this post
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Nov 25 2021, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 24 2021, 03:35 PM) Saw this post for coingecko some time back when they were hiring FML, I lead, but only 13.5k.. okay la. Can go suicide LiaoFucking underpaid Liao Knnccb! |
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Nov 25 2021, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Nov 25 2021, 11:19 AM) FML, I lead, but only 13.5k.. okay la. Can go suicide Liao MNC?Fucking underpaid Liao Knnccb! I fullstack also reaching 17k |
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Nov 25 2021, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Nov 25 2021, 11:27 AM) MNC? if MNC confirm more d laI fullstack also reaching 17k i am only in a small local company FML! sigh... title lead, but pay like shit |
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Nov 25 2021, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Nov 25 2021, 11:27 AM) MNC? How many years of experience? 🤔I fullstack also reaching 17k |
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Nov 25 2021, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(craxors @ Nov 25 2021, 10:51 AM) dem... no wonder la... Your job scope reply whatsapp only..3k already..my job scope only reply whatsapp whole day.... That very nice job lol.. |
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Nov 25 2021, 12:47 PM
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Nov 25 2021, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(ixaRA @ Nov 25 2021, 12:46 PM) Your job scope reply whatsapp only..3k already.. maybe marketing + i.tThat very nice job lol.. ixaRA liked this post
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Nov 25 2021, 01:09 PM
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Not really no. But if you think about it...rm8000 to rm15,000 salary is not a lot for a senior level IT. Most other countries are easily paying, double to triple+ that amount and in USD or GBP again. That's not even before conversion rate.
This line of thinking is failed. |
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Nov 25 2021, 01:17 PM
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Devops engineer here 8k
Feel like I'm underpaid kek |
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Nov 25 2021, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Nov 25 2021, 01:09 PM) Not really no. But if you think about it...rm8000 to rm15,000 salary is not a lot for a senior level IT. Most other countries are easily paying, double to triple+ that amount and in USD or GBP again. That's not even before conversion rate. senior IT can go above rm 25k?This line of thinking is failed. KHunterz liked this post
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Nov 25 2021, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(ixaRA @ Nov 25 2021, 12:46 PM) Your job scope reply whatsapp only..3k already.. tapi can buy viva je... cannot afford myvi. That very nice job lol..  |
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Nov 25 2021, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(craxors @ Nov 25 2021, 01:56 PM) tapi can buy viva je... cannot afford myvi. Vivo also good enough already.. no need to waste money for car.. |
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Nov 25 2021, 02:45 PM
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yes. already fail this life. hope not fail in the afterlife.
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Nov 25 2021, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Nov 25 2021, 12:44 PM) How many years of experience? 🤔 5-6 yearsBut I full stack cover few job roles. Doing all in one. |
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Nov 25 2021, 02:58 PM
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869 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Derp Village
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ayam 24k, 10 years experience, last time use to lead dev. but nowadays just do programming as lead people is not my thing
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Nov 25 2021, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Nov 25 2021, 02:50 PM) 5-6 years Cibai I full stack, 8 years also rm13k+ only. But I full stack cover few job roles. Doing all in one.  |
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Nov 25 2021, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 25 2021, 01:54 PM) senior IT can go above rm 25k? Impossible to attain in Malaysia, US$25k or GBP25k is possible outside of Malaysia. |
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Nov 25 2021, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Nov 25 2021, 03:01 PM) Cibai I full stack, 8 years also rm13k+ only. Be appreciate lol. Just lucky, I met my boss and other managers willing to pull me up Lord Tiki Mick liked this post
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Nov 25 2021, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(EmpireAnt @ Nov 25 2021, 02:45 PM) yes. already fail this life. hope not fail in the afterlife. very deep. |
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Nov 25 2021, 03:32 PM
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872 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Classified
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Nov 25 2021, 03:21 PM) Be appreciate lol. Just lucky, I met my boss and other managers willing to pull me up You work in small/medium company, SME, or big MNC? I think u r not working in MNC coz they usually got standard pay, not easy to convince HR for that high pay. |
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Nov 25 2021, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Nov 25 2021, 03:21 PM) Be appreciate lol. Just lucky, I met my boss and other managers willing to pull me up Nevermind la. It's not like I do a lot of things now. I basically goyang kaki. *sighs* |
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Nov 25 2021, 03:44 PM
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Sigh - envy betul. I think one of my concern is that am not manager material, or at least, am currently performing better in technical tasks, than people managing, so I'm thinking my current pay has peaked, and as my age catch up to me, the only way forward is downwards.
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Nov 25 2021, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(000022 @ Nov 25 2021, 03:44 PM) Sigh - envy betul. I think one of my concern is that am not manager material, or at least, am currently performing better in technical tasks, than people managing, so I'm thinking my current pay has peaked, and as my age catch up to me, the only way forward is downwards. same. i don't have skills manage ppl.workers make my hypertension increase. i work alone. |
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