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 Modenas/Bajaj Pulsar RS/NS200 and Dominar 400, I'm an Owner and a Foreman, AMA here!!

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post Feb 8 2022, 05:50 PM

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dem thats really bad. my d400 issue is nothing if compare to what you been through.
and yes, i totally disagree the part where they mention dust partial or stone stuck in it and cause leaking , that is pure BS.

i get the same explain from the shop i purchase my d400, which i do not buy at it all since changing the fork seal did nothing to solve the issue.
they even told me "thats excessive fork oil when install at factory, after done leak out it will be fine" kind of BS, which i tell my self i will never go to this shop for anything ever again.

and yes, i get the same fanboy defensive explain when i highlight this issue via FB or dominar whatsapp group. they just swipe it aside like its something minor.
or "you pay peanut you get peanut, why you even complain" kind of reply.
as if i should not highlight issue for something i purchase just because it was cheap , ok fine.

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post Feb 9 2022, 12:29 AM

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hi Jay, if i go your shop, can help check my d400 why getting knocking sound during cold start?
also, can you check if my bike need VC?
currently odo clocked at 60k, all this while all ok.
not sure related or not, but issue start after i go change to 3rd party sprocket @ 15-42 (both front and rear is now RK brand).
the reason why i highlight sprocket is because i read at AMS fb , mention that 3rd party front sprocket screw might hit the engine.
also despite done change fresh engine oil, but the engine still feel not smooth not sure why.

also if your side can help on my front fork leaking issue that will be great. done change fork seal 3 times at SC , but leaking still happen.
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Sure do drop by.

Screw isnt really "hitting" the engine per-se, more like, its too long and grinded out a portion of the seal over time. However, changing sprockets should not require changing screws, i think most of us(workshops), simply swap the sprocket and retained the old screws. Furthermore, sprocket kits usually doesnt comes with screws and you need to reuse your old one.

As for knocking sound during cold start, could be 1 or few of many factors.

As for the fork leak, yea we encourage customers to swap out the standard(bajaj) seals with Ari seals. And while we at it, replace the standard(bajaj) oil with better aftermarket ones(motul/ipones/belrays) to a weight of your preference.
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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Jan 24 2022, 01:28 AM)
Just look for me, i'm Jay, its my contact on the FB
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Hi Jay, can you PM me your shop details. Can't seem to find you on FB.

My D400 is due for the 20K service, put on 15k in the last 10 months

. How much do you charge for the 20K VC job?

Thanks

Edit. Sorry, found it. Are you guys open on Saturdays? Might just drop by since quite near to me.

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post Feb 10 2022, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 9 2022, 08:53 PM)
Hi Jay, can you PM me your shop details. Can't seem to find you on FB.

My D400 is due for the 20K service, put on 15k in the last 10 months

. How much do you charge for the 20K VC job?

Thanks

Edit. Sorry, found it. Are you guys open on Saturdays? Might just drop by since quite near to me.
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We're open everyday generally. 20k should be major service, but in D4 case, VC will only be required if the tappet sound is apparent on a stethoscope inspection. Apart from that, for 20k, generally,

1. air filter
2. fuel filter
3. spark plugs
4. Coolant
5. brake systems
6. other general health checks
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Hello guys, I'm in the process of getting my B full license. Came across the NS200 being a cheap and good beginner friendly bike with ABS. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions? I have no riding experience and this will be my first bike.

Would buying a second hand bike be a better option as I may fall ?

Thank you

Edit: would like to add that my budget is below 10k

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post Feb 13 2022, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(scorpio94 @ Feb 13 2022, 12:11 PM)
Hello guys, I'm in the process of getting my B full license. Came across the NS200 being a cheap and good beginner friendly bike with ABS. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions? I have no riding experience and this will be my first bike.

Would buying a second hand bike be a better option as I may fall ?

Thank you

Edit: would like to add that my budget is below 10k
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if sked moto kari,
can search used cfmoto nk250 abs rm7-8k oni..
taobao many stuff can find..:
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post Feb 13 2022, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 13 2022, 01:05 PM)
if sked moto kari,
can search used cfmoto nk250 abs rm7-8k oni..
taobao many stuff can find..:
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Not familiar with the terms, what do you mean Kari ya ?
Also how is the nk250 compared to the NS200 since it's around the same price range?
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QUOTE(scorpio94 @ Feb 13 2022, 01:39 PM)
Not familiar with the terms, what do you mean Kari ya ?
Also how is the nk250 compared to the NS200 since it's around the same price range?
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kari mean Indian bike
NK250 from CF motor, it is quite famous in China, both NK250 and NK400.

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post Feb 13 2022, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(scorpio94 @ Feb 13 2022, 12:11 PM)
Hello guys, I'm in the process of getting my B full license. Came across the NS200 being a cheap and good beginner friendly bike with ABS. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions? I have no riding experience and this will be my first bike.

Would buying a second hand bike be a better option as I may fall ?

Thank you

Edit: would like to add that my budget is below 10k
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Theres quite abit of choice for bikes below 10k in similar classes, hence i wont go into specific comparison. But in general, the NS advantage over most most bikes on the segment(or yours) would be

1. Comparatively cheap, you can get a used NS ABS for 5k or so. A brand new one cost around 9-10k. Given that its a rather straight forward bike without complicated systems, tested and proven, id say its a safe bet to get a used one. Especially so that its your first one, save the extra cash for safety upgrades(tyres/crashbars) and other minor useful accessories or even attend a proper safety riding course instead of ones in driving school.

2. Fall safe, as in, its not expensive to drop nor would damage many parts(minor drops). The bike is pretty simple, even without a crashbar, a simple fall might only cost you a handlebar, side mirrors and a signal lamp replacement.

3. Lightweight, not as light if you were to compare to 150ccs, but for the power vs displacement vs weight, the NS sports a pretty decent ratio. Its handles pretty well for a beginner to learn too.

4. Cheap spareparts and widely available, you can source spareparts directly from modenas or from us, service plus, 3rd party shopee reseller etc. I would go as far as to say, being an "odd brand" in malaysia, its unlikely for you to have issue finding for parts, and not to mention they cost pretty damm cheap in comparison to other smaller niche companies(KTNS/ZONTES/NAZA/CFMOTO).


These, are my personal opinion.
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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Feb 13 2022, 10:01 PM)
Theres quite abit of choice for bikes below 10k in similar classes, hence i wont go into specific comparison. But in general, the NS advantage over most most bikes on the segment(or yours) would be

1. Comparatively cheap, you can get a used NS ABS for 5k or so. A brand new one cost around 9-10k. Given that its a rather straight forward bike without complicated systems, tested and proven, id say its a safe bet to get a used one. Especially so that its your first one, save the extra cash for safety upgrades(tyres/crashbars) and other minor useful accessories or even attend a proper safety riding course instead of ones in driving school.

2. Fall safe, as in, its not expensive to drop nor would damage many parts(minor drops). The bike is pretty simple, even without a crashbar, a simple fall might only cost you a handlebar, side mirrors and a signal lamp replacement.

3. Lightweight, not as light if you were to compare to 150ccs, but for the power vs displacement vs weight, the NS sports a pretty decent ratio. Its handles pretty well for a beginner to learn too.

4. Cheap spareparts and widely available, you can source spareparts directly from modenas or from us, service plus, 3rd party shopee reseller etc. I would go as far as to say, being an "odd brand" in malaysia, its unlikely for you to have issue finding for parts, and not to mention they cost pretty damm cheap in comparison to other smaller niche companies(KTNS/ZONTES/NAZA/CFMOTO).
These, are my personal opinion.
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Thats a pretty valid point. Will check out used ns200. Any recommendations on what I should look out for used units ?
Or would bringing the bike to the foreman be the best solution?
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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Feb 13 2022, 10:01 PM)
Theres quite abit of choice for bikes below 10k in similar classes, hence i wont go into specific comparison. But in general, the NS advantage over most most bikes on the segment(or yours) would be

1. Comparatively cheap, you can get a used NS ABS for 5k or so. A brand new one cost around 9-10k. Given that its a rather straight forward bike without complicated systems, tested and proven, id say its a safe bet to get a used one. Especially so that its your first one, save the extra cash for safety upgrades(tyres/crashbars) and other minor useful accessories or even attend a proper safety riding course instead of ones in driving school.

2. Fall safe, as in, its not expensive to drop nor would damage many parts(minor drops). The bike is pretty simple, even without a crashbar, a simple fall might only cost you a handlebar, side mirrors and a signal lamp replacement.

3. Lightweight, not as light if you were to compare to 150ccs, but for the power vs displacement vs weight, the NS sports a pretty decent ratio. Its handles pretty well for a beginner to learn too.

4. Cheap spareparts and widely available, you can source spareparts directly from modenas or from us, service plus, 3rd party shopee reseller etc. I would go as far as to say, being an "odd brand" in malaysia, its unlikely for you to have issue finding for parts, and not to mention they cost pretty damm cheap in comparison to other smaller niche companies(KTNS/ZONTES/NAZA/CFMOTO).
These, are my personal opinion.
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Hi.

I am looking at 300-400cc bikes as a starter. I have 2 brands in mind, and I would like to pick your brain on quality, and maintenance of these two bikes.

1. Benelli TNT 300
2. Kawasaki Z300

both of them can be found around 2015-2017, the TNT300 at rm 8k and the z300 at RM 12k

Is Kawasaki bikes easier to maintain? ie there are experience technicians to fix, kawasaki is more reliable, spare parts are easily available

is there a particular year /model which is problematic?

Does the age of the bike affect performance and maintenance drastically?

Here are the other bikes which I could also consider
1. Kawasaki ER6N
2. CFMoto NK400


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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Feb 8 2022, 06:50 PM)
and yes, i get the same fanboy defensive explain when i highlight this issue via FB or dominar whatsapp group. they just swipe it aside like its something minor.
or "you pay peanut you get peanut, why you even complain" kind of reply.
as if i should not highlight issue for something i purchase just because it was cheap , ok fine.
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While nobody's expecting to get Honda quality at Bajaj prices, that's no excuse to put up with a grossly DEFECTIVE product.

I was willing to close both eyes if the defects were cosmetic or minor, like the tank badge that peeled off the day I rode it out of the showroom. But stuff like faulty ABS units etc that render the bike unrideable are just not acceptable by any standard.

"Ko nak menyalak buatpa, bodo. Claim je la pastu tolong diam," that was the reply I got from these guys. So yeah OK... then what happens when the warranty runs out & you can no longer claim? By their own logic, you just get rid of it lah... and that's what I did.

Glad to have left all that behind me. What a nightmare.

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 5 2022, 10:51 PM)
While nobody's expecting to get Honda quality at Bajaj prices, that's no excuse to put up with a grossly DEFECTIVE product.

I was willing to close both eyes if the defects were cosmetic or minor, like the tank badge that peeled off the day I rode it out of the showroom. But stuff like faulty ABS units etc that render the bike unrideable are just not acceptable by any standard.

"Ko nak menyalak buatpa, bodo. Claim je la pastu tolong diam," that was the reply I got from these guys. So yeah OK... then what happens when the warranty runs out & you can no longer claim? By their own logic, you just get rid of it lah... and that's what I did.

Glad to have left all that behind me. What a nightmare.
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totally agree . to be honest my 1st thought was glad that you or anyone that riding that bike was unharmed due to that faulty abs.

my guessing is that these people at brand M / B, betting on these "cut costed" part , ditching quality and QC.
they definitely went through all the parts , and decide which part can be fit in using the cheapest and lowest quality part for profit sake.
i know im making assumptions here but as a user i can see a lot of part is very poor quality.

and you know why they dare to reply like that ?
cuz they know most of the people that purchase this bike will do the exact same thing, keeping silent or just swipe it aside and go fix them self.

any kind of question/argument bout the quality will be shutdown by " the bike so cheap , apasal still mao complain/minta lebih ? "
hell, i even get that exact same answer for just suggest that this bike will be better if can have a bigger gas tank.
so i cannot even suggest some improvement ?? seriously ??
you cannot talk anything bad about this bike , not even suggesting some improvement.
especially the front fork seal leaking , that is clearly a defect, and majority owner is experiencing it.
and you know what that brand M did ?
they launch a few days event , so called "walk in and replace fork seal" at their subang SC , very short duration of time,
and then end it with something like "due to very less people actually came for replace, hence this fork seal leaking issue is not major".
mind you their so called walk in to fix this issue is short to no notice in the media , no call or what so ever to me despite i was in the waiting list for fork seal replacement, and those that get the news mostly was circulated within their so called official groups.
how they conclude this issue really is something .
holy cow these people. talk bout taking responsible.

again , my thoughts is , this M brand will never improve, officially they put zero effort in sc
all actual service was delegate to those so called SC plus.

went through their official SC at subang 3 times , i swear i do not want to return there ever again.
A total waste of my time.



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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Mar 6 2022, 12:09 AM)
totally agree . to be honest my 1st thought was glad that you or anyone that riding that bike was unharmed due to that faulty abs.

my guessing is that these people at brand M / B,  betting on these "cut costed" part , ditching quality and QC.
they definitely went through all the parts , and decide which part can be fit in using the cheapest and lowest quality part for profit sake.
i know im making assumptions here but as a user i can see a lot of part is very poor quality.

and you know why they dare to reply like that ?
cuz they know most of the people that purchase this bike will do the exact same thing, keeping silent or just swipe it aside and go fix them self.

any kind of question/argument bout the quality will be shutdown by " the bike so cheap , apasal still mao complain/minta lebih ? "
hell, i even get that exact same answer for just suggest that this bike will be better if can have a bigger gas tank.
so i cannot even suggest some improvement ?? seriously ??
you cannot talk anything bad about this bike , not even suggesting some improvement.
especially the front fork seal leaking , that is clearly a defect, and majority owner is experiencing it.
and you know what that brand M did ?
they launch a few days event , so called "walk in and replace fork seal" at their subang SC , very short duration of time,
and then end it with something like "due to very less people actually came for replace, hence this fork seal leaking issue is not major".
mind you their so called walk in to fix this issue is short to no notice in the media , no call or what so ever to me despite i was in the waiting list for fork seal replacement, and those that get the news mostly was circulated within their so called official groups.
how they conclude this issue really is something .
holy cow these people. talk bout taking responsible.  

again , my thoughts is , this M brand will never improve, officially they put zero effort in sc
all actual service was delegate to those so called SC plus.

went through their official SC at subang 3 times , i swear i do not want to return there ever again.
A total waste of my time.
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Indeed, I think the bulk of the problem is Modenas. After all these years in operations, improvements are much to be desired.


The bike however, is built to a price, which is not a problem with me, as it IS a cheap bike. However it is made much worst when it is being assembled here. We seem to have a tidak apa attitude when it comes to doing things. We have a made in Malaysia Honda Accord that suffers from very poor build quality.

Fortunately, my Dominar has been relatively trouble free short of the odd and rare in gear / throttle off stalling, which seems to be a KTM issue. But my bike has been used hard, off road, touring, daily ride, maxed out to 160 at least once per week, you name it. racking in nearly 20K in 1 year. I bought mine as a pristine , very low mileage secondhand so didnt bother about warranty, and I do most of my work myself. So maybe the bike needs to be used hard.

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Lost my rear signal indicators. Stopped working. Maybe for the last few days.

Front ones work fine. Flasher relay is fine. Checked all the connections, all seem ok. Very very odd problem. Very rare to have both go out.

Front left signal flashes fine when bike not running, but flashes erratically when bike running. Just happened today which is why I noticed the rears are out too.

Really really weird.

Anyone has a copy of the shop manual, really need it to check all the wiring and try to get it sorted out tonight...have a bike trip tmrw
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dominar..
i ve been searching for some time but cant find official bajaj english workshop manual, only old model pulsar foreign language. ...

ok looks like someone uploaded a copy recently,

bajaj call this service manual? only 179pages??

circuit diagram is there at least...

https://guidessimo.com/document/1908799/baj...manual-179.html

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jun 3 2022, 10:16 PM)
dominar..
i ve been searching for some time but cant find official bajaj english workshop manual,  only old model pulsar foreign language. ...

ok looks like someone uploaded a copy recently,

bajaj call this service manual? only 179pages??

circuit diagram is there at least...

https://guidessimo.com/document/1908799/baj...manual-179.html
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Thanks.

Figured out the problem.

It's a Modenas problem. When the bike was assembled, the rear signal wires were not placed properly so when my rear givi pannier racks were installed, they crushed the resistor packs on both lamps. Not the fault of the foreman either..since there is no way for him to see where the wires were.

Just ordered new signal lamps..will do it myself this time around. Properly.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 7 2022, 01:01 PM)
Thanks.

Figured out the problem.

It's a Modenas problem. When the bike was assembled, the rear signal wires were not placed properly so when my rear givi pannier racks were installed, they crushed the resistor packs on both lamps. Not the fault of the foreman either..since there is no way for him to see where the wires were.

Just ordered new signal lamps..will do it myself this time around. Properly.
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This and many of the CKD bike brands in Malaysia.. the QC is really out.. same goes to MForce ... KTM.. HLYM

The bike itself is fine, just the CKD assembly is half A@$@!

That's why Many other brands choose to bring in at least CKD Thai. or CBU direct...especially their big bike unit.
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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Oct 20 2021, 10:02 PM)
Hey guys,

Bajaj has been on our shores for awhile and has been gaining alot of traction due to its affordable price brackets, decent performance, sleek looks, outstanding FC, affordable maintenance and a great starter "tanked" bike for moped riders to ease into higher CC.

Models sold here are the

RS200
NS200
NS200 ABS
Dominar 400
Dominar 400UG

I'm an owner, turned foreman, had tonnes of experience with Bajaj products in Malaysia and recently setup shop and also got our shop officially "Modenas Service Plus".

Purpose of this thread is to assist the growing number of owners(in general, without specifically promoting my shop) and also do my best to answer questions from future owners who are currently considering to purchase the above bike.

So please feel free to shoot!
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Hi TS, would like your expertise on this issue.
I have just gotten a new NS200.. First time riding arnd and notice this strange WHEEZING sound coming from the engine? Also the thighs area can get quite hot.. Is it normal?




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