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 Modenas/Bajaj Pulsar RS/NS200 and Dominar 400, I'm an Owner and a Foreman, AMA here!!

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TSVi Merkz
post Oct 20 2021, 10:02 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hey guys,

Bajaj has been on our shores for awhile and has been gaining alot of traction due to its affordable price brackets, decent performance, sleek looks, outstanding FC, affordable maintenance and a great starter "tanked" bike for moped riders to ease into higher CC.

Models sold here are the

RS200
NS200
NS200 ABS
Dominar 400
Dominar 400UG

I'm an owner, turned foreman, had tonnes of experience with Bajaj products in Malaysia and recently setup shop and also got our shop officially "Modenas Service Plus".

Purpose of this thread is to assist the growing number of owners(in general, without specifically promoting my shop) and also do my best to answer questions from future owners who are currently considering to purchase the above bike.

So please feel free to shoot!
basilisk
post Oct 21 2021, 09:28 AM

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if u got 'lobang' can get a copy (photocopy oso can) of service manual, i wana buy.
TSVi Merkz
post Oct 21 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 21 2021, 09:28 AM)
if u got 'lobang' can get a copy (photocopy oso can) of service manual, i wana buy.
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We're bound by contract not to disclose, but if im not wrong i think you can purchase the workshop manual from Modenas SC. I do have an older outdated version for the NS on softcopy though. Will share when i get to my PC later biggrin.gif

That said, if you want some reference or spec on certain topics i might be able to help
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post Oct 21 2021, 01:19 PM

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Service manual cannot disclose one? I think some brands I know are openly providing it for their bikes.
basilisk which model cannot find? I try my luck and see?
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post Oct 21 2021, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 21 2021, 01:19 PM)
Service manual cannot disclose one? I think some brands I know are openly providing it for their bikes.
basilisk which model cannot find? I try my luck and see?
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which brand? openly provide ..

normally is not openly for sale to the public.

brand like dukahati , triumph langsung kenot easily find / get, the service staff hv to log in online n view n log out, stuff liddat.

but in the usa, like harley can buy. other jap brand oso got sell in the us for public/bike owner.
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post Oct 21 2021, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 21 2021, 02:02 PM)
which brand? openly provide ..

normally is not openly for sale to the public.

brand like dukahati , triumph langsung kenot easily find / get, the service staff hv to log in online n view n log out, stuff liddat.

but in the usa, like harley can buy. other jap brand oso got sell in the us for public/bike owner.
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you're right, just never checked official sites, normally just google bike model and will have owners forum post liao.

TSVi Merkz
post Oct 21 2021, 11:27 PM

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yup in most cases "officially" cannot, but its the internet age afterall... plenty of copies out in the www.
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post Oct 23 2021, 04:28 PM

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My total garbage low quality ModernAss Dominar has now developed a new problem as the odometer passed the 10,000km mark.

Anytime I pull the throttle more than half & when the tacho passes 5000rpm, it starts to backfire & fart its brains out. I lost half my engine power.

That, and the fork seal has started to leak.... AGAIN.

No choice but limp back to ModernAss service center to claim warranty FOR THE THIRD TIME.

Dominar quality sucks cock.
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post Oct 23 2021, 07:14 PM

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I loathe to post this on the usual FB groups coz there are fanboys there who will defend to the hilt every defect on this bike.

For example, my constantly leaking fork seals are said that be my fault because I didn't cough up more money to install fork gaiters, since Modenas Bajaj fork seals are so special & exotic that they cannot stand dust particles. Not a quality problem, ok!

The other defense was that Modenas Bajaj Dominar fork seals are specially made to function when the bike is ridden daily, so if they leak it's my fault for not riding my bike often enough. Not a quality problem, ok!

Retards. They think I'm 16 riding a birthday gift daddy gave me.

Now I have this engine farting problem. The fanboys will definitely accuse me of twisting the throttle wrongly. Not a quality problem, ok!

I hate this Bajaj piece of shit with a passion.



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post Oct 23 2021, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Oct 23 2021, 07:14 PM)
I loathe to post this on the usual FB groups coz there are fanboys there who will defend to the hilt every defect on this bike.

For example, my constantly leaking fork seals are said that be my fault because I didn't cough up more money to install fork gaiters, since Modenas Bajaj fork seals are so special & exotic that they cannot stand dust particles. Not a quality problem, ok!

The other defense was that Modenas Bajaj Dominar fork seals are specially made to function when the bike is ridden daily, so if they leak it's my fault for not riding my bike often enough. Not a quality problem, ok!

Retards. They think I'm 16 riding a birthday gift daddy gave me.

Now I have this engine farting problem. The fanboys will definitely accuse me of twisting the throttle wrongly. Not a quality problem, ok!

I hate this Bajaj piece of shit with a passion.


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I guess you're the unlucky guy here who got the faulty one, my dominar's only problem was the rear brake no grippy after twice bleeding and I'm back to usual.
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post Oct 24 2021, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Oct 23 2021, 07:14 PM)
I loathe to post this on the usual FB groups coz there are fanboys there who will defend to the hilt every defect on this bike.

For example, my constantly leaking fork seals are said that be my fault because I didn't cough up more money to install fork gaiters, since Modenas Bajaj fork seals are so special & exotic that they cannot stand dust particles. Not a quality problem, ok!

The other defense was that Modenas Bajaj Dominar fork seals are specially made to function when the bike is ridden daily, so if they leak it's my fault for not riding my bike often enough. Not a quality problem, ok!

Retards. They think I'm 16 riding a birthday gift daddy gave me.

Now I have this engine farting problem. The fanboys will definitely accuse me of twisting the throttle wrongly. Not a quality problem, ok!

I hate this Bajaj piece of shit with a passion.


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welp, thats sad to hear bro. I do agree that finishings level definitely isnt up to par, especially mini attention to details. And definitely isnt "OK" and dont agree with fanboys defending existing issues with even more... uhh.. "quality" arguements. To add to this, quality check is obnoxious for all Bajaj especially 2020 onwards. If you lurk in groups enough, you'd notice that 90% of users that has issues with their bikes, are new users or owners who are still under 15k mileage.

Now my personal rant aside, for the price you pay for that dominar, you probably wont be able to get anything else remotely close to what it has to offer. Issues that are haunting the bike arent major issues that cant be fixed.

For your fork issue, you might want to consider aftermarket seals, Ariete performs and last and they arent expensive either. I just ordered some recently to stock up and addressing this issue.

As for your throttle response (farting) issue, you might wanna make use of that warranty and visit any SC or Service Plus to get your bike scanned for errors. My first thoughts are most likely issues with your TPS or sensors.

For warranty and claims, might want to consider visiting Service Plus instead of Dealer, depending on the shop, some of us arent that strict with protocols and alot easier to deal with and provide alternative solution instead of the standard by the book SOP while retaining your warranty.
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post Oct 24 2021, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Oct 23 2021, 08:38 PM)
I guess you're the unlucky guy here who got the faulty one, my dominar's only problem was the rear brake no grippy after twice bleeding and I'm back to usual.
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Yup bro, this is a persisting issue since first gen Doms. Indeed simple bleeding solves the issue, but, instead of bleeding, id recommend flushing out the brake fluid altogether and replacing it with something other than bajaj. While most of their parts and components dont have much issues, their consumables/fluids are definitely something i find hard to recommend, aside from warranty purposes.
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post Oct 24 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Oct 23 2021, 04:28 PM)
My total garbage low quality ModernAss Dominar has now developed a new problem as the odometer passed the 10,000km mark.

Anytime I pull the throttle more than half & when the tacho passes 5000rpm, it starts to backfire & fart its brains out. I lost half my engine power.

That, and the fork seal has started to leak.... AGAIN.

No choice but limp back to ModernAss service center to claim warranty FOR THE THIRD TIME.

Dominar quality sucks cock.
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For the peace of mind. I ride Jap bikes.
No China or India bike.

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post Oct 24 2021, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 24 2021, 04:03 PM)
For the peace of mind.  I ride Jap bikes.
No China or India bike.
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Fair enough, but to be frank, no bike is without its issues, be it Jap or European. Their number of recalls arent fun to remember either, I personally had experience with a number of Suzuki recall back in Japan.

I think its better for everyone if we keep an open mind to products without huge discrimination on their make and origin be it China or anywhere else, tech and manufacturing is improving rapidly so are their management. The japanese/european bike you're currently riding are most likely made in India/Thailand/Indonesia etc.

The best peace of mind, is an open mind and to realize machines are made by human and humans, aren't free of errors.
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ZZR-Pilot I can feel the pissed off-ness.
seems there got ting ting tik tik sound? What is that? I hope it's not cam chain loose and everything just hitting at each other.
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post Oct 24 2021, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 24 2021, 09:14 PM)
ZZR-Pilot I can feel the pissed off-ness.
seems there got ting ting tik tik sound? What is that? I hope it's not cam chain loose and everything just hitting at each other.
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i noticed some noises from the exhaust. Tbh, not a fan of the "dual exhaust" on a single cylinder, its just unnecessarily weird and over complicating simple mechanics sweat.gif

Also, i just browsed through my recently acquired DOM4 UG workshop manual, the valve clearance it calls for is pretty big for an engine this size. Which should explain the louder than usual tappet sound.


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post Oct 25 2021, 05:07 AM

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QUOTE(Vi Merkz @ Oct 24 2021, 02:47 AM)
Now my personal rant aside, for the price you pay for that dominar, you probably wont be able to get anything else remotely close to what it has to offer. Issues that are haunting the bike arent major issues that cant be fixed.


Funny you should say that. Today I noticed rust has started to develop on my left fork stanchion. This, despite the fact in the 10,000km I hv had this bike from new, it spent the vast majority of its life parked in the condo basement parking lot. Facepalm.

My cheebye TNT600 communist tongsan bike had far superior build quality. I bought it off a one-time huat farmer who left it to rot under his house for a whole year, where mice made a nest in its airbox. It ran without a hiccup in the 5 years I owned it as a daily driver. No rust, no leaks, no nothing.

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For your fork issue, you might want to consider aftermarket seals, Ariete performs and last and they arent expensive either. I just ordered some recently to stock up and addressing this issue.


Bike is still under warranty until Jan, so I might as well send it back to Modenas.... for the THIRD time since I dropped RM13k at Eang Chun.

Beyond that, I'll probably check you out. It will be good business for you for sure to service suckers like me who were seduced by the ringgit-to-displacement ratio that Modenas used as bait to con us into buying this piece of shit.

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As for your throttle response (farting) issue, you might wanna make use of that warranty and visit any SC or Service Plus to get your bike scanned for errors. My first thoughts are most likely issues with your TPS or sensors.


Back in the day, the usual suspects would hv been the spark plugs, HT lead, ignition coil or flooded carb/bad diaphragm.

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For warranty and claims, might want to consider visiting Service Plus instead of Dealer, depending on the shop, some of us arent that strict with protocols and alot easier to deal with and provide alternative solution instead of the standard by the book SOP while retaining your warranty.
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The Modenas place in Kg Subang, Shah Alam that I always send my bike to is a Service Plus place.

They replaced my brake master cylinder & fork seals, all of which failed again within 5000km.

The whole thing is just shit through and through.

Now it only has 1 job left to do... train my wife on her first few thousand kms when she gets her bike license... then I'm getting rid of this horseshit.

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After coughing up cash for a new Triumph Tiger 850, I skipped work to send my Dominar back to the Kg Subang service center yet again.

By now, I'm already a familiar face there.

Ran into yet another fanboi while I was there. He accused me of not bothering to read the manual about fork seal maintenance. I told him off.. on which page in the freaking owner's manual does it say anything about fork seal maintenance? "Oh.. ini petua yg sepatutnya ada dalam manual, tapi entah kenapa Modenas tak taruk".

Dah kantoi.

Tak cukup kantoi 1 kali, he goes on to claim that the real maintenance requirement for fork seals is to not let the fork stanchions dry. Need to use axle grease or gearbox oil on the stanchions in order to preserve the fork seals.

Why do fanboys always insult me like this? Me getting a lemon not enough ah?

To further rub salt into my wound, the Grab ride back to Ampang costed me RM70 coz it's hard to get a regular Grab driver around that godforsaken area.


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post Nov 3 2021, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 2 2021, 03:53 PM)
After coughing up cash for a new Triumph Tiger 850, I skipped work to send my Dominar back to the Kg Subang service center yet again.

By now, I'm already a familiar face there.

Ran into yet another fanboi while I was there. He accused me of not bothering to read the manual about fork seal maintenance. I told him off.. on which page in the freaking owner's manual does it say anything about fork seal maintenance? "Oh.. ini petua yg sepatutnya ada dalam manual, tapi entah kenapa Modenas tak taruk".

Dah kantoi.

Tak cukup kantoi 1 kali, he goes on to claim that the real maintenance requirement for fork seals is to not let the fork stanchions dry. Need to use axle grease or gearbox oil on the stanchions in order to preserve the fork seals.

Why do fanboys always insult me like this? Me getting a lemon not enough ah?

To further rub salt into my wound, the Grab ride back to Ampang costed me RM70 coz it's hard to get a regular Grab driver around that godforsaken area.
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i bet you are a fun guy to hangout with when shit talking about other bikes. biggrin.gif .

i have a friend who rides pulsar on daily basis and rides for about 150km both ways. he state that he rather have his buttocks cramp riding a kapchai rather than that bike.
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post Nov 18 2021, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(kualaloco79 @ Nov 3 2021, 12:45 PM)
i bet you are a fun guy to hangout with when shit talking about other bikes.  biggrin.gif .
LOL.. actually I talk shit about the bike I own, because having gone thru so much frustration with this bike I am actually qualified to do so.

It has been 3 weeks since I personally sent my bike back to Modernas Kg Subang to get it fixed under warranty for the 3rd time. Still no news from them.

While waiting, I have enrolled my wife into a driving school to get her B Full licence, she has studied and passed her JPJ exam and she has received her L license. She will start her riding lessons soon and she needs this stupid India bike to practice on.... haizzz....

Seeing what I have gone through with this bike, she doesn't feel confident relying on this hunk of Indian junk for her daily commute. When the insurance expires in Feb nxt year, I will have to reinsure it with some kind of roadside assistance service for her. She needs to thrash this bike for a year before getting rid of it & buying a new bike of her choosing.

My customer experience with the Dominar 400 has been utterly S.H.I.T.E.

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