Saw.......they are ppl from a very unrelated background. LOL. What civil engineer in Triumph FX. What Kumon instructor and another old man I saw the typical face ou find in pasar malam, took his picture with his blur house as background wearing a home t shirt.

But after you bring this up, now they will slowly change their Linkedin to make it more believeable.

Aiya....visitors only ma. This is like they do less digital marketing ma fall lower lor, but it might also mean after their army told ppl about this TriumphFX, ppl are less to double check the claim online. It isn't an absolute good news. It might mean bad news and more is falling prey and those who are falling prey are people who does not do any cross check.

You don't ask someone to prove it to be a scam under the pretext of you don't ask someone to prove a negative. If I claim your mother slept with 124 different random men last two years for RM5 per session and if you can't prove she didnt, can we all conclude she did until you prove that she didnt ? Decide which school of prove you want to take and stick with it. Your profile post on Lowyat forum does not make you a better person. Someone who posted 5000 post, IS NOT automatically better in knowledge than those posting just 5. It only means the one posting 5000 post have nothing else better to do online but post regularly to TCSS on an online forum. A mat rempit may have 10000 post, if post count is evident you are better, than a mat rempit must be better than you and you must be a lowlife in contrast to him, based on post count.

So, before you continue about " no one can prove its a scam......" please prove your mother did not slept with 124 different random men in the last 2 years.

And yea, big deal ya about you not being a baby with a P. Cause you got 66 post....wuuuuuu.....now we think you're a legend. You have 43 post more than me and you drive a scary luxurious HRV. I am so scared la, and I so the respect you. People that has 66 post in lowyat and has HRV are very very successful individual. Whoaaa..hebat. I drive Vellfire, I still think its a poor man's car today. I bought it because of family, there is NOTHING to brag about. But yes, if you drive a HRV, whoaaaa.....chioooo ah...all the girls sure fall for u wan. Very very successful. Hebat! Sexy! Wow. 66 post on lowyat ah? Whoaaa, wow....chio ah. Damn experienced and knowledgeable ah. Clever boy ah. Fuuuiiyooooo.

Feeling proud with your 66 post and Honda HRV? Congratulations...your mama always knew you're one of those who would make it in the society as a rich tycoon.

Nonsense!

Whoa, now ure guru already at 67 post! I will catch up! I want to be so clever too!

Paying selectively is the right word for it. They detect algorithm of lines that are potentially bringing them income.

You might be right that their greed takes over all logic, but there is another side of the coin to consider. That they never had a sound logic to begin with in the first place and TriumphFx basically reveals this area of theirs? LOL

Time will prove is correct.

Even Najib have believer despite being proven in court to be songlapping ppl's money ma. Hundreds of millions found in home also ppl still think that's normal.

Scare tactic?
What are we selling that we need to use any kinds of tactic? Proven your friend takda logic. Why do people who have no vested interest in something, need to create " TACTIC " ?

Malaysia don't have strict regulation to manage this and at the same time, my personal speculation is that authorities are partly benefiting from it as well to let it run. Ponzi are easily managed. Funds collection require license. If a channel open up for complaint and if they do it efficiently, one complain leading to summon and subsequently arrest and jail time, Ponzi won't spread so easily here. But no, despite knowing, we just give a slap on the wrist. And then they will return and do another new ponzi.

Of course, our people are also a group of stupids that believe in nonsense such as ghost. Illogical believe requires the mind to remain impaired.

Like sales, profit is not made until money goes into your personal bank account. If you put in USD1000 and in perfect scenario, you get a " profit " of USD1000. You withdraw only USD1000 ( which is your original capital ), you left the USD1000 in the account for it to grow. You profit another USD1000 after another 12 months. Are you going to :

1. Withdraw USD1000 in the following years and leave USD1000 consistently inside for it to so called grow 100% every year? If yes and you're happy making USD1000 yearly, good for you. Can buy Iphone annually. Or..

2. Withdraw the first USD1000 and whatever you make extra, USD1000 year 2, USD1000 year 3, cumulatively and withdraw none out of it, because in 10 years you would have so called compounded 10,000 and now you hope to earn USD10,000 annually....?

Which type are you ?

TriumphFX targets mostly aunties, uncles, uneducated, retired, etc. Rarely you will see them preaching to doctors, stock brokers, lawyers. They will occasionally tell you one or two are....because they let their money grow in there due to the fact that they know, so that they can use their profession to market and say, hey, doctors also invest u know ? Fact is the majority aren't professionals, less likely smart and intelligent people. Of the defenders here, you can mostly see that the way they negotiated and justify their cause in Triumphfx directly reflects their level of intellect and logic. They all have a common, auntie and uncle logic, those who runs to a stock broking firm in the morning shouting aiyaaa....miss the boat ah, this wan can win wan, i should have entered, earlier i feel it was good wan ah. Those kind of pasar crowd. Decide based on instinct, feelings....rarely based on intelligence or facts.

Why the target audience are mostly these type? Because only mostly these type can be duped into it. They know they aren't intelligent enough to see through it and some who has a little education are lazy and hopeful people who think if I don't research the bad on TriumphFX , the bad does not exist. A key form of ignorant, present in most low IQ countries.

Multiple MLM scheme uses these method so the payment become individually managed and not the main culprit. This is about forex so it gets a little tricky. I rmbr back in Lampe Berger days, they do not give " cash " as my friend showed me the money he earns monthly, but it is in Lampe Berger proprietary point. He claimed 1 point is equivalent to RM1, so if he as 30k point this month in earning, he also earns RM30k.

This leads to a mechanism of transfer from one user to another user in form of points while the main top tier do not need to be bothered. At the same time, it is a pyramid discount method in directly selling scheme. If I buy 1 lamp, the lamp is RM500 if I buy 100 lamp, the lamp is RM200, so each lamp I sell at RM500, I earn RM300. The more I store, the more I earn in margin for each transfer. Then the lure of pride comes in, when they call people who commit one shot of say 1000 lamp, we call them some honorary names like " Emporer " or whatever the donkey. So now they feel they are rich. So he will now become the main stockist having a disribution channel of his own. Now he becomes an " entrepreneur " because now he runs his own business and manages distributor. He takes the highest risk but at the same time also the lowest if the scheme is early. Because owning so many lamp, most sale are purchased from his stocks.

The founder of the company already wash hand the moment he found 100 " emporer " . Any compensation, management of fund, talks, seminars, will be managed by emporers while he collects and store money.

I beg to differ. In every selling, there is a product. Only, this may not be a physical product. It might be credit point, or special point system as a product.
I was previously, in the younger days la that is, working for a ponzi company. This is just why I know a little more of their modus operandi. They were selling a " system " as well, there isn't a physical product whatsoever. You would be puzzled at how the system can help generate money. The system is a smoke screen, where they use it to claim it as their product. Just like how forex is doing it. So back then, the investment was on the " usage of the system " . They acquire merchant and as the merchant news grow large, they tell you monies are made there. To earn more, you invest more. It started small as well. But the investment eventually over years went up to RM40k for starters. And they would get back as much as 12%.

When I ask people, are you getting a profit in your first year, it is because the founder personally tells me this " I was merely giving them back their money and if they had potential, I will take from another place to give them their money so that they continue to recruit. They were so big they even had a government agency funding them.

So if an upline gain advantage by owning more " product " which can be in credit, in discount, those ae their products. If the upline can save someone USD100 withdrawal fee, that USD 100 is giveable maybe because if the upline invested above 100k, they are given a RM20k discount, they may use that 20k discount do cut USD100 for their downline, etc.

I don't know the whole system cause I am not in it. But i am sure, ponzi won't run far.

Let's invest la. The way the system works, billionaire is not a problem. See you in forbes top 50 soon!

Whosoever is positively trying to sell something, making claims of being true has the responsibility of proving it to be true. Not the person who don't believe them taking up the responsibility to prove it being fake.

If I make 5000 claims per day of something being true and everyone else who don't believe me has to prove it wrong, imagine how easy it would be for me to make up stories and imagine the life of non believers. It'll be a nightmare for them to do investigation day, night, for years possibly and everyone would be busy only to prove fake news to be fake.

Are you ok? Your reply seemed very inexperienced with life on the general basis.

1. A regulated reputable broker will not " NOT REPLY " you. Try it with any regulated registered broker in Malaysia. That is why " regulated " is important.
2. Unexperience? It's inexperience. What is an " experienced " investor with TFXI ? There should not be any " experienced investor with TFXI. You are not investing in TFXI. It should not be. It was advertised as " FOREX ". You are not investing in TFXI. You are using the service of TFXI only! TFXI does not control forex. Privacy breached? How did BOB STONE get anyone's private data? From a website? Then that website was the one who has violated PDPA. If BOBSTONE manage to get it from some black market, then he has invaded people's private data. If BOBSTONE got it from some other website that published someone's data, go talk to that website. You seemed very very inexperienced with logic overall.

From the year 1919, when Charles Ponzi launched and established a Ponzi scam, there are several hundred thousands of other ponzi over the period of 100 years and millions of humans, educated and uneducated falling prey with billions or most proabably trillions of dollars taken. They never woke up, don't expect them to wake up now with a few msgs in Lowyat. They won't. And after Triumphfx falls...there will be another one, and some will again, fall back into that same trap. And this will go on, over and over and over again for possibly another 100s of years.

[quote=Don Salvatore,Sep 2 2022, 01:55 PM]
Don't come to me telling me about adversiting Forex in TFXI whatsoever. I'm not in TFXI & don't plan to advertise but I did researched TFXI online & have a few friends that does full-time. Hence getting info from them as well. Ofcourse, I don't really trust their statement as it might be one sided.

I will come telling you whatever I want to tell you. It's important that you don't start statement in narcissistic form as though you're entitled to control what others could or could not tell you. We can tell you anything we want. Buf you can choose to ignore or leave. If you choose to stay and respond, you have chosen to listen. So don't go blaming others nor dictating whether or not they should or could or not tell you anything.

And I am baffled by your comment about " pure hearted human " . What is pure hearted human? You mean, like you? You're the sample of pure hearted human? So the things you do and assumed to be right is the moral yardstick of what a pure hearted human is ? Isn't that a little narcissistic again?