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IT salary downtrend, Thai surpass us
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teckyuan
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Oct 7 2021, 11:22 AM
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some butthurt fact in IT field is there are many ppl talk cock sing song . Cannot work one. No quality with their delivery.This type of people really piss me off .Overpromised , underdelivered. I have seen someone using RDMS with so many duplicate set of value everywhere as is they are using NOSQL product from a prominent IT firm.What is even funny is they like to use string to store all the value in DB.Dont know lookup key-value pair design ke? Understanding of the product is wrong , hence we have a wrong product design. In layman term , leg is for your to walk but you walk with your hand instead. FML.
This post has been edited by teckyuan: Oct 7 2021, 11:26 AM
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NoNameSoldier
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Oct 7 2021, 11:25 AM
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not a surprise when many dont even know what is DuitNow and its functionalities and features...
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TryingToSurvive
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Oct 7 2021, 11:25 AM
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All si bodoh complaining why IT pay less when in fact it's IT job in Malaysia that pays lesser then the neighbouring countries.
Some idiot say FANG, sure never get offer from Amazon Malaysia or Google Malaysia. In Malaysia only got presales in IT for all faang companies Google only has some rubbish sales marketing in malaysia Give you localised pay that is around top 70% median pay range only. So pathetic
It's Malaysia IT job sector that is the main arguement cause of why IT pay is in a down trend.
This post has been edited by TryingToSurvive: Oct 7 2021, 11:31 AM
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SUSKarl Jung
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Oct 7 2021, 11:27 AM
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The IT pay is getting so rubbish until IT ppl also thinking of doing other shit like foodpand/grab.
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Sycamore
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Oct 7 2021, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 7 2021, 10:34 AM) It is all about digital right? from phone to software 2020 developer hire 9 out of 10 2021 developer hire 8 out of 9 2022 developer hire 7 out of 8 2023 developer hire 6 out of 7 2024 developer hire 4 out of 6 My son said wan. He is IT from top ranking university in china Eventually some of IT jobs will go to AI. But 2024 is an unrealistic timeline.
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Sycamore
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Oct 7 2021, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 7 2021, 10:47 AM) i no tipu you la. he graduated d last year. but i no went his graduation bcs lock down 2020 ma Now salary not much RM4K like that I hear he said want to do master. Maybe start soon. 2024: AI take over IT work is real and it is extremely fast in China. My son said.  交通大學 not bad. If can get high pay tech job should just stay. Unlikely will get this kind of opportunity in kecik country.
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SUStikaram
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Oct 7 2021, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Oct 7 2021, 12:50 PM) 交通大學 not bad. If can get high pay tech job should just stay. Unlikely will get this kind of opportunity in kecik country. I hear everyone there before graduated already got job offer. many join Huawei develop os. but salary still low compare joining us IT company in china top 5 university in china la qs ranking world within 100
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Heroicage
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Oct 7 2021, 12:00 PM
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Kesian.
terima kasih cadangan, tapi awak bukan kerajaan....
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otakotak
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Oct 7 2021, 12:04 PM
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/k trust PIKOM as source of truth & reality? u sell pendrive online also consider as digital profesional in the eyes of pikom
This post has been edited by otakotak: Oct 7 2021, 12:05 PM
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Sycamore
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Oct 7 2021, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 7 2021, 11:55 AM) I hear everyone there before graduated already got job offer. many join Huawei develop os. but salary still low compare joining us IT company in china top 5 university in china la qs ranking world within 100  Best IT university in China if i am not mistaken. Too big talent pools in China liao. If can enter big companies, usually have to climb up slowly.
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Currylaksa
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Oct 7 2021, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Oct 7 2021, 11:22 AM) some butthurt fact in IT field is there are many ppl talk cock sing song . Cannot work one. No quality with their delivery.This type of people really piss me off .Overpromised , underdelivered. While you're not wrong, I challenge you to work with Thai IT / devops teams. Lagi more headache.
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DoomCognition
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Oct 7 2021, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(MPKL @ Oct 7 2021, 09:44 AM) Because Thailand downsized many it staff. U either high pay do multiple men work or unemployed. Link? Or just another syiok sendiri statement?
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Currylaksa
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Oct 7 2021, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Oct 7 2021, 12:14 PM) Link? Or just another syiok sendiri statement? MPKL is a well-known BN/PN cybertrooper.
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DoomCognition
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Oct 7 2021, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Oct 7 2021, 12:15 PM) MPKL is a well-known BN/PN cybertrooper. Yeah, every single statement is full of gosok syiok sendiri style of wording. If cannot win, put down the other party that's better than us.
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DoomCognition
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Oct 7 2021, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(c64 @ Oct 7 2021, 11:10 AM) Too many untalented graduates. Mroe like there are less high value jobs here. With issues such as 51%, cabotage and the lousy 12th Malaysia plan, companies are looking out instead of coming here. From their perspective, better let Malaysians do low level job, pay them cheap, and source high level jobs from elsewhere. At least when got issue where have to let go 51%, can easily jump to another country due to low skill needed. It's all part of Risk Management by IT companies.
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DoomCognition
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Oct 7 2021, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 7 2021, 11:19 AM) next time study betul betul, few of these companies are moving operation to singapore not indea. please explain. SG is now in a condition where they do not have enough manpower to supply the IT sector. u tau ker tidak? People like pfizer is just a cyber trooper. Ignore him. He is a racist in denial. No point answering him in full, just 1 word reply is all he deserves.
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ikankering
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Oct 7 2021, 12:23 PM
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rindu zaman ph.
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SUSKarl Jung
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Oct 7 2021, 12:24 PM
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IT job is also very demanding. Even as a programmer/support u must take shit from project manager and customer.
"Eh when problem solve ar?" When? When ??? When?????
Cibai lah u, it gets solve when it's solved la, CB.
Then only paid rm5k. Sell shit on shoppee also better la.
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DoomCognition
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Oct 7 2021, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Oct 7 2021, 11:22 AM) some butthurt fact in IT field is there are many ppl talk cock sing song . Cannot work one. No quality with their delivery.This type of people really piss me off .Overpromised , underdelivered. I have seen someone using RDMS with so many duplicate set of value everywhere as is they are using NOSQL product from a prominent IT firm.What is even funny is they like to use string to store all the value in DB.Dont know lookup key-value pair design ke? Understanding of the product is wrong , hence we have a wrong product design. In layman term , leg is for your to walk but you walk with your hand instead. FML. I agree than many in IT is more of TCSS. All wan to be project manager, just mange the project, but dun want to actually do the work. But manage project dunno how, keep asking subordinate or propose stupid design.
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narf03
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Oct 7 2021, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Oct 7 2021, 09:46 AM) Too many IT graduate in market. Supply > demand nope, IT is not like pasar borong, you really need skill and experience, things that newb cannot do means newb cannot do, quantity cannot determine the quality. like you have a 10 years database with millions of customers, it doesnt matter how poor are you, you will not let a fresh grad to handle that database.
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