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teckyuan
post Oct 7 2021, 11:22 AM

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some butthurt fact in IT field is there are many ppl talk cock sing song . Cannot work one. No quality with their delivery.This type of people really piss me off .Overpromised , underdelivered.
I have seen someone using RDMS with so many duplicate set of value everywhere as is they are using NOSQL product from a prominent IT firm.What is even funny is they like to use string to store all the value in DB.Dont know lookup key-value pair design ke?
Understanding of the product is wrong , hence we have a wrong product design.
In layman term , leg is for your to walk but you walk with your hand instead.
FML.

This post has been edited by teckyuan: Oct 7 2021, 11:26 AM
NoNameSoldier
post Oct 7 2021, 11:25 AM

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not a surprise when many dont even know what is DuitNow and its functionalities and features...


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post Oct 7 2021, 11:25 AM

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All si bodoh complaining why IT pay less when in fact it's IT job in Malaysia that pays lesser then the neighbouring countries.

Some idiot say FANG, sure never get offer from Amazon Malaysia or Google Malaysia. In Malaysia only got presales in IT for all faang companies
Google only has some rubbish sales marketing in malaysia
Give you localised pay that is around top 70% median pay range only.
So pathetic

It's Malaysia IT job sector that is the main arguement cause of why IT pay is in a down trend.

This post has been edited by TryingToSurvive: Oct 7 2021, 11:31 AM
SUSKarl Jung
post Oct 7 2021, 11:27 AM

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The IT pay is getting so rubbish until IT ppl also thinking of doing other shit like foodpand/grab.
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 7 2021, 10:34 AM)
It is all about digital right? from phone to software

2020 developer hire 9 out of 10
2021 developer hire 8 out of 9
2022 developer hire 7 out of 8
2023 developer hire 6 out of 7
2024 developer hire 4 out of 6

My son said wan.

He is IT from  top ranking university in china
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Eventually some of IT jobs will go to AI.
But 2024 is an unrealistic timeline. sweat.gif
Sycamore
post Oct 7 2021, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 7 2021, 10:47 AM)
i no tipu you la. he graduated d last year. but i no went his graduation bcs lock down 2020 ma

Now salary not much RM4K like that

I hear he said want to do master. Maybe start soon.

2024:  AI take over IT work is real and it is extremely fast in China. My son said.

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交通大學 not bad.
If can get high pay tech job should just stay.
Unlikely will get this kind of opportunity in kecik country.
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Oct 7 2021, 12:50 PM)
交通大學 not bad.
If can get high pay tech job should just stay.
Unlikely will get this kind of opportunity in kecik country.
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I hear everyone there before graduated already got job offer. many join Huawei develop os. but salary still low compare joining us IT company in china

top 5 university in china la

qs ranking world within 100

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Heroicage
post Oct 7 2021, 12:00 PM

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Kesian.

terima kasih cadangan, tapi awak bukan kerajaan....


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post Oct 7 2021, 12:04 PM

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/k trust PIKOM as source of truth & reality?
u sell pendrive online also consider as digital profesional in the eyes of pikom

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Sycamore
post Oct 7 2021, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 7 2021, 11:55 AM)
I hear everyone there before graduated already got  job offer.  many join Huawei develop os. but salary still low compare joining us IT company in china

top 5 university in china la

qs ranking world within 100

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Best IT university in China if i am not mistaken.

Too big talent pools in China liao.
If can enter big companies, usually have to climb up slowly.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Oct 7 2021, 11:22 AM)
some butthurt fact in IT field is there are many ppl talk cock sing song . Cannot work one. No quality with their delivery.This type of people really piss me off .Overpromised , underdelivered.
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While you're not wrong, I challenge you to work with Thai IT / devops teams.

Lagi more headache. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(MPKL @ Oct 7 2021, 09:44 AM)
Because Thailand downsized many it staff. U either high pay do multiple men work or unemployed.
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Link? Or just another syiok sendiri statement?
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Oct 7 2021, 12:14 PM)
Link? Or just another syiok sendiri statement?
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MPKL is a well-known BN/PN cybertrooper.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Oct 7 2021, 12:15 PM)
MPKL is a well-known BN/PN cybertrooper.
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Yeah, every single statement is full of gosok syiok sendiri style of wording. If cannot win, put down the other party that's better than us.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(c64 @ Oct 7 2021, 11:10 AM)
Too many untalented graduates.
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Mroe like there are less high value jobs here. With issues such as 51%, cabotage and the lousy 12th Malaysia plan, companies are looking out instead of coming here.

From their perspective, better let Malaysians do low level job, pay them cheap, and source high level jobs from elsewhere. At least when got issue where have to let go 51%, can easily jump to another country due to low skill needed. It's all part of Risk Management by IT companies.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 7 2021, 11:19 AM)
next time study betul betul, few of these companies are moving operation to singapore not indea. please explain.

SG is now in a condition where they do not have enough manpower to supply the IT sector. u tau ker tidak?
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People like pfizer is just a cyber trooper. Ignore him. He is a racist in denial.

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post Oct 7 2021, 12:23 PM

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SUSKarl Jung
post Oct 7 2021, 12:24 PM

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IT job is also very demanding. Even as a programmer/support u must take shit from project manager and customer.

"Eh when problem solve ar?" When? When ??? When?????

Cibai lah u, it gets solve when it's solved la, CB.

Then only paid rm5k. Sell shit on shoppee also better la.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Oct 7 2021, 11:22 AM)
some butthurt fact in IT field is there are many ppl talk cock sing song . Cannot work one. No quality with their delivery.This type of people really piss me off .Overpromised , underdelivered.
I have seen someone using RDMS with so many duplicate set of value everywhere as is they are using NOSQL product from a prominent IT firm.What is even funny is they like to use string to store all the value in DB.Dont know lookup key-value pair design ke?
Understanding of the product is wrong , hence we have a wrong product design.
In layman term , leg is for your to walk but you walk with your hand instead.
FML.
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I agree than many in IT is more of TCSS.

All wan to be project manager, just mange the project, but dun want to actually do the work. But manage project dunno how, keep asking subordinate or propose stupid design.
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post Oct 7 2021, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(pfizer @ Oct 7 2021, 09:46 AM)
Too many IT graduate in market. Supply > demand
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nope, IT is not like pasar borong, you really need skill and experience, things that newb cannot do means newb cannot do, quantity cannot determine the quality. like you have a 10 years database with millions of customers, it doesnt matter how poor are you, you will not let a fresh grad to handle that database.

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