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post Feb 16 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 16 2022, 12:01 PM)
i too haven't tested Mazda 3 and Corolla Altis, wife zero interests and i only have a curiosity to fill, which isn't worth it during this pandemic.
btw, i have zero idea why "M3", as that USUALLY relates to BMW M3 laugh.gif

and yes, i do agree on the F1 bit, because i have an actual FR 6 speed manual sports car, a Mazda 3 family sedan /hatchback will never ever match up lol.
it's just different segment car, not fair to even compare.
and even IF same segment, all the cars cater to different priorities and preferences. (and of course different taxation CBU CKD and politics and price structures, but that's besides the point, we all [should] get it).

definitely agree on the last bit, and probably the same from most of us who booked the car.
from testing the FC TC/TCP, it definitely handles better.
value for money, highly subjective as the Proton brand new original KYB absorbers are only ~200 per piece (2 rears are like sub 200 > 180 ish? lol)
I somemore bought the car brand new for 60k+
Civic cost more than double, and it 100% does not equate to double the performance/enjoyment/ride & handling

furthermore, my late Inspira was manual with 3 pedals. Civic only CVT, that's my biggest bias.
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one thing that is ok with Honda is the absorber is still working great even at 7 years of usage at 180k km. Back then with proton waja, the original absorber kayaba will k,o right entering 1year + or 2 years, the warranty was 6 months. I ended up to aftermarket absorber + spring which last longer vs stock
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post Feb 17 2022, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 17 2022, 12:37 PM)
yeah....but...you dont bring those tools with you....

but yes learning as we go.
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Whats your budget for tinted?
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post Feb 17 2022, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 17 2022, 01:24 PM)
I’m not sure honestly. What can I get for rm3k, and what can I get for Rm2k, and 1k?
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Vkool then for rm3k. Best experience so far. Rm2k can get 3M crystalline, which also quite well known.
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post Feb 17 2022, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 17 2022, 01:29 PM)
Is it worth taking the honda tinting just to avoid any warranty issue on the power window etc
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U pay premium for their not top of the line tint branded. I rather skip that and install directly to the brand.
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post Feb 17 2022, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(rellik_yzarc @ Feb 17 2022, 09:05 PM)
I'm based in KL looking to buy the 1.5V
What kind of discounts can I expect and where's a good place to buy?
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Last time during FC launch time, semenyih sc sa give great rebates. Try contact them.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 17 2022, 09:51 PM)
i did some phone survey and also found a friend who sticks 3M.

Crystalline Full RM2500 est.
Crystalline + Ebony RM1500 est. I am getting this in 2 weeks when I go back to Ipoh.

Panel honda is quoting me RM1800 for Crystalline + Ebony
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Crystalline all for best heat rejection. Kindly noted that 3M had many fakes tint on market. Please go to reputable branch
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post Feb 20 2022, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 19 2022, 08:39 PM)
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Just collected and noticed an imperfection under the paint. Sigh.

I missed this and also a lot of bad patches on top of the clear coat under the stupid big red ribbon… that my wife insisted on…
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The patches u can buy those tape removal or if wanna safe, do some light polishing there. The dote u had, try buy those paint touch up material from shopee
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post Feb 20 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 20 2022, 09:22 AM)
It is UNDER the clear coat. Nothing can be done except re paint. Basically the white paint itself is stuck with a large piece of black rock before the clear coat is applied….
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I know the feeling of this on a brand new car. Hence paid thousands extra for front ppf. Have to accept that bro
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post Feb 21 2022, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(praveenmarkandu @ Feb 21 2022, 09:07 AM)
Hi guys. Got my car on Saturday. Fairly happy with it. Firstly I'm not a car guy. Secondly, I'm all about the practicality of owning a car so I'm not going to sweat the small stuff (like the paint job unless it is very very obvious)

I'm coming from a Toyota Vios 2017 so nearly everything about the Civic 2022 is better. The only thing that annoys me is that there is no 360 camera. I'm baffled that this was a feature on a RM80K car 5 years ago but isn't a feature on a RM138K car (or even higher. BMWs don't have this feature as well).

Anyway I have three main questions:

1. Can someone just advise me what is the best value for money protective film/coating . Last time for my Vios I went for Ceramic Pro. Like I said, I'm not a car guy, so I'm not sure if that was a good decision or not. It seemed to do its job.

2. Since the car has wireless Apple Carplay, what is stopping it from getting wireless Android Auto in the future? I'm sure on a fundamental level, their technologies work the same. If Honda ever start supporting wireless Android Auto, would the Civic 2022 be able to receive that upgrade?

3. Is there a way to turn off lanewatch?

Thank you.
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I took a coating shop that give price quotation of rm900 which cover all parts of the car, with 2x free maintenance, mean my car will look clean for 3 years foc if i send there once a year.

I don't know what the difference of rm900 coating vs rm5k (found out this on fb coating shop), i rather use some fund on ppf front area + coating rm900 all parts.
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post Feb 21 2022, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Feb 21 2022, 02:07 PM)
T and H diff marketing strategy and target.

Camry = not targetting young or sporty or young family. They targetting uncles (sorry) and ppl that wants luxury.
Civic = well, everyone?

Look at Civic, no media tests also bookings off the roof
Look at Camry, bring media go Kuantan rounding also not much bookings.

As per TaiChooYee mentioned in his Civic launch view, he did say indirectly that they did not have any media invites yet for a test drive and "hope for after CNY can get to test drive it". But look @ City and especially City RS, 1 year liao come out only let media to review/test drive City RS. So don't expect one too soon.

If you really want to know when medias get their hands on FE, go wait @ Genting sempah there weekdays 7am+-. See la got Uncle YSKhong drive up or not.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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civic, brand new car, 2022. Camry, old car supposed last time get new dynamic force engine. only our UMW make it as a brand new 2022 Camry when Thai already had this engine for a few years ago.

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Feb 21 2022, 04:04 PM)
well they did gave a reason for that... something to do with the supply chain for the engine
again off topic - but if i were in the market and have the budget for a D segment, the Camry would be the one I will go for. just an impressive package for the price
then again.... I dont really favour driving big cars especially in KL and Sel where sometimes the road and parking spots can be a bit tight, maybe its just my driving skills. C segment (or premium D like 3 series / C class) would be the max I would go for
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now D-segment heading close to the 200k price range. I say many will rather convert to Conti car then. Those include the current-gen Accord. On my Accord G9 whatapps group owner, many just upgrade to Conti, 3-series, C-class when looking at G10 Accord price, spec, and the interior.
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Feb 21 2022, 05:25 PM)
lol i think many of forummers here still think Accord is 200k.

Most of the Accord owner (including me) got it around 15xk-16xk. I cannot justify additional 50k (33% premium over Accord) for Camry  biggrin.gif

Back to Civic, i still think it is good deal given it has 80-90% of Accord features with 20k-30k less  nod.gif
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later many will pm u to share the SA contact no for 15xk after rebates.
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post Feb 21 2022, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Feb 21 2022, 05:55 PM)
definitely not. It's already raised a few times especially for Honda CKD, the parts are mostly locally sourced to keep the cost down and that itself is already huge factor when it comes to quality
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Locally sourced but retain the expensive price for the brake pad stock. Rm700/pair. Juddering at hard brake, warranty will skim the rotor.
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Feb 21 2022, 05:58 PM)
Agree on the NVH is very bad even for flagship model like Accord.🙄

But NVH can be done with 5-7k 😊 I did full car sound proofing and now drive super quiet 🤫
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Can ask if it heading to Lexus level after spending rm7k? Possible?
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QUOTE(datjayvin100 @ Feb 24 2022, 10:21 AM)
Anybody can give their input on the V VS RS in terms of comfort? was thinking how much can 1 inch size difference would make and if I slap on PS4s on the V will it have a somewhat grip performance to the RS but slightly more comfortable (minus out the handling benefits of an 18)?
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To be honest 235/45/18 with a ps4 Michelin, u will feel it kinda hard. This tyre is quite hard on the sidewall
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 24 2022, 11:30 AM)
Can confirm E-16" MC5 are soooo comfortable for city / pothole use. Top speed 100km/h without too much noise.

Don't feel the need for more traction or stability yet.
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Unfortunately the mc5 was well known as not so great tyre in term of performance, grip.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 26 2022, 09:19 AM)
Can the cvt handle the extra power?

If it was traditional torque converter or DCT, won't be issue but CVT, hmm
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Remember the one case viral for FC remap had his engine k.o and ask for warranty? Honda straight rejected his claim
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 2 2022, 09:23 AM)
Already registered and tinted but haven't collect cuz wife delivered baby also same day wub.gif

we gotten that unique/special meteorite gray metallic
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 4 2022, 12:19 AM)
Pictures don't look as nice as in person (pictures just doesn't do justice for this special paint)
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It's very hard to see these Colorful flakes from pictures alone (or my photography/phone camera potato)
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That's why the unique shades of black and purple outside its supposedly gray

Driver review/first impressions, with preface/previous vehicles ownership or experience as comparison being Honda HRV ownership, test drive of FC Civic TC/TCP, Proton Persona (sis's car).

The easiest way to sum it for the TLDR folks: RM125K is a LOT of car for this new Civic FE.
I can dare say it's the best spec/best value for money among our Malaysian C segment sedan market.

I prefer the fabric seats over the show room (during launch) RS Spec that's a combi. Probably not so much on V spec full leather.
On combi leather seat comparison, persona seating position is taller, but thicker /plusher bolsters (that's the leather part). The FE seats are more "semi bucket"like especially if you put them at the lowest position and overall it's a much better seating experience amongst all the mentioned cars. It also helps that I'm about 179cm and rather big sized so the seats catering for a global platform is very accommodating.

I didn't have the issue of unreachable arm rests at all, both sides are very leveled and the full tilt & telescopic steering helps a ton on tailoring me to my best driving position. (Look up guides on this)

Head room is crazy tall probably meant to cater to taller westerners.

A compromise on my lowest seating position while lifting the steering highest, is the fuel gauge and push start button is entirely obscured.
I need to purposely sit up to look at the fuel gauge, and truth be told I spent a good few minutes sweating like crazy looking for the push start button laugh.gif
Thank God for Llumar TCP4 tints, zero feel under 34-36c hot afternoon sun, but still sweat like pig cuz enclosed in car without any circulation and the car was parked under hot sun baked for hours.
Side windscreens being darker no need to test, just tested FWS and my hands doesn't feel the scorching sun at all. Opened window and omg pain sun burning hands lol
Windows fully can open as the car was already tinted completed for 2 days and the tints fully dried/cured with zero defects so far.

Visibility of the car is really good.
Huge shout-out to the side mirrors being well designed (not necessarily bigger!) Is able to see both further way and blind spots assuming if you're seated properly while at the same time having well adjustable side mirrors.

The rubberized aircon vents on/off and the joysticks exhibiting some "new assembly" break in clicks sounds aren't very confidence inspiring on long term reliability/durability, but only time will tell and hopefully prove me wrong.

Android Auto was God send.
It's also integrated to the instruments.
- no Android Auto wireless.
- no turn by turn navigation on the instruments
- music is fully displayed on the instrument cluster screen, however it doesn't support Japanese text. It'll only show dashes ------ lol!
- ok Google is slow, funnily, slower than "hi Proton" that said, ok Google is the full Google assistance while Proton is only limited to few car commands.
- the phone communications are clear, probably from the additional microphones and stuff at the center map light location.
- you can't use your phone when Android Auto is active. I guess intended so you don't play phone while driving.

Head unit
- HU position is just nice, no need to buy an additional magnetic mount like I have on my current car and previous HRV
- HU screen is clear, touch experience is good. However under very bright sun, sometimes it can be a bit washed out.
- the reverse camera resolution is just rubbish lol. My aftermarket bought at 2017 for like 200 bucks or something beats it out if the water. It's so bad, Proton persona camera is better lol
- saving grace, it has steering angular sensors guidelines. Same as Proton persona.
- audio is OK. improvement over HRV. But without tweeters, there's only so much it can do. I've done a bit of tweaks to make the best out of it. Sacrificing a bit of bass for some clarity.
- steering controls and loads of buttons can be confusing at first. They even consolidated some buttons, or just outright omit them as you can just use the touch screen lol
- aircon controls are a good touch of physical and tactile buttons and knobs, while it has mirrored display over the head unit.

Handling is ok.
- the Continentals are quite good on NVH which compliments the overall car much improved NVH
- The rear trails the front surprisingly nicely despite the really heavy front. It's not winning any awards any time soon on handling, but it sure is a superb compromise trading for much plushier ride.
Do remember again this being a global car, and evidently despite hard to believe, there's many other places with worse road conditions than Malaysia roads.
- The brakes at doesn't annoy me to no end on typical Honda brakes where it bites hard initially and later on braking power is taper off/digress into nothing further which is alarming if you do get into these emergency situation.

ride is super plush!
- HUGE improvement over the HRV with or without good working condition absorbers.
- definitely affected by this globalized platform as again, there's places with worse condition roads.

The CVT rubber banding is vastly improve over FC and HRV. Its adaptation logics and learning has been rather pleasant!
It still won't be performing as hard as Proton persona clutch based CVT, however it's a huge and well trade off when it comes to the transmission overall smoothness and improved NVH.

heck, there's a subtle logic built in guy virtual stepped shifts if you're flooring it in S Position of the gear lever. Which I believe the next item will be working hand in hand to compensate any potential shortcoming from the CVT.

Only one mention comparing against my sports coupe - power. Turbo is turbo and paired with a much better revised CVT, power is effortless and comes way too easily. Totally don't have to work for it rowing through the gears while waiting to go through the RPMs of a NA car.

The CVT is also very willingly allowing you to red line the car compared to the previous HRV where getting past 5k RPM is very damn hard even on S position of the CVT. The FE Civic can already hit around 6 on just D.
S is much more smoother and more than willing to hold lower ratios or provide my good engine braking if I don't want to have the car dive in too much from the brakes and at the same time, as with most sporting drive, sitting at a lower gear means I'm more than ready to power out a corner punishing the crappy continental tires.

Honda sensing is really nice
For folks having long distance and known to doze off, the lane watch assist actually vibrates your steering wheel while giving off very visible broadcasts telling you to F up less.
Ok that's it for now. If you've read this far, thank you and hopefully you enjoy this review.
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QUOTE(Poisonsoulss @ Mar 13 2022, 09:15 AM)
Hi guys, anyone tried the Honda official tinting (ray barrier). Is it really not worth it for that 1.6k? Any photos? Thanks
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Better do outside. Rm2k can get 3M Crystalline products which one of the best from 3M

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